frissonic Posted October 21, 2011 Report Posted October 21, 2011 i don't care about realignment. i care about expansion. right now, my wife is actually excited and really starting to get in to hockey, mainly because i refuse to eat dinner upstairs on game nights (games come on at 5 or 5:30 out here--right when i get home from work). we've actually started eating downstairs as a family so we can all watch the games. my girls--5 and 7--know players by numbers. they know miller is 30 and enroth is 1. they know vanek. they know gaustad (for some reason ...). they're starting to "get it." we picnic in front of our 58" samsung plasma and watch the games in HD. yes--we're getting the MSG feeds. guess we're lucky. but i digress. my wife actually said that she would really like an NHL team here in utah because she would love to go to the games rather than have to drive to denver, phoenix, SJ, or socal. i had to actually slap myself to make sure i heard her correctly. i've been out of wny for over 16 years. i MISS living in a hockey-centric town. you all back in buffalo ... good smackeroonies you have no idea how good you have it until you move away. i'd give my left ball to move back and be a part of that culture. alas--i'm "stuck" here, so the only hope i have is to bring the nhl to my home state. i know this has nothing specifically to do with realignment, but i had to vent. didn't feel like creating a new post cuz i've already done that. after watching these first 6 sabres games, my whole house is on hockey fire, and ... GAH!!! i *never* thought i'd see the day where my WIFE is excited for hockey. never. good crap, patience pays off. :) sorry ... i'll shut up now. i'm just so freakin' stoked. 76 more games to go until the playoffs, and i'm already starting my beard. yah--i'm THAT confident.
papazoid Posted October 21, 2011 Report Posted October 21, 2011 here's my simple idea.... TWO Conferences of 15 teams each , no divisions. play each team from the other conference twice (1 home & 1 away) 30 games. play each team from the same conference four times (2 home & 2 away) 56 games. fans get to see every team at least once each year. owners get more revenue with four additional games. competition wise a much more balance strength of schedule.
wjag Posted October 21, 2011 Report Posted October 21, 2011 here's my simple idea.... TWO Conferences of 15 teams each , no divisions. play each team from the other conference twice (1 home & 1 away) 30 games. play each team from the same conference four times (2 home & 2 away) 56 games. fans get to see every team at least once each year. owners get more revenue with four additional games. competition wise a much more balance strength of schedule. While I like the idea, that will probably get turned down by the players union. That would take some $$$ negotiations...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Posted October 21, 2011 here's my simple idea.... TWO Conferences of 15 teams each , no divisions. play each team from the other conference twice (1 home & 1 away) 30 games. play each team from the same conference four times (2 home & 2 away) 56 games. fans get to see every team at least once each year. owners get more revenue with four additional games. competition wise a much more balance strength of schedule. While I like the idea, that will probably get turned down by the players union. That would take some $$ negotiations... WJAG is right, and it also really doesn't solve the problem ... unless these Conferences are both a mix of east and west teams. A 15-team Western Conference still leaves means only one out of Detroit or Columbus can move east and still leaves the other (plus Nashville or Dallas) with the problem of so many games in the Pacific time zone. The most significant change would be the playoff seeding with no division weak champs mucking up the pecking order.
papazoid Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 i like my two conference idea best...... but for absolute total league wide balance and strength of schedule have each team play every other team 3 times per year. 29 X 3 = 87 games. again, more revenue with 5 additional games. top 16 teams make playoffs irregardless of old division or conference. could see some interesting matchups in the stanley cup finals with teams that otherwise would never meet in finals.
krt88 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 Northern Conference Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Minnesota, Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, Columbus, Pittsburg, New Jersey, Boston Southern Conference Phoenix, Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose, Colorado, St. Louis, Dallas, Nashville, Tampa Bay, Florida, Carolina, Washington, Philadelphia, NY Rangers, NY Islanders
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 Northern Conference Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Minnesota, Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, Columbus, Pittsburg, New Jersey, Boston Southern Conference Phoenix, Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose, Colorado, St. Louis, Dallas, Nashville, Tampa Bay, Florida, Carolina, Washington, Philadelphia, NY Rangers, NY Islanders hmmm interesting but will never fly because of the travel
shrader Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 i like my two conference idea best...... but for absolute total league wide balance and strength of schedule have each team play every other team 3 times per year. 29 X 3 = 87 games. again, more revenue with 5 additional games. top 16 teams make playoffs irregardless of old division or conference. could see some interesting matchups in the stanley cup finals with teams that otherwise would never meet in finals. So how exactly do you balance things out when all teams play an odd number of games?
Cereal Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 162-game season. Two leagues. Each league has three divisions. 18 games against each divisional opponent. During June or July we can have Interleaque Play where teams play against teams in the other league. Also, at the All-Star game, we should have a Home Run Derby. Thoughts?????
Huckleberry Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 heh , if phoenix gets relocated to quebec , i can see them move toronto into west again :clapping:
krt88 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 Northern Conference Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Minnesota, Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, Columbus, Pittsburg, New Jersey, Boston Southern Conference Phoenix, Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose, Colorado, St. Louis, Dallas, Nashville, Tampa Bay, Florida, Carolina, Washington, Philadelphia, NY Rangers, NY Islanders people say it won't fly because of travel but this balances out travel amongst the two conferences. I'd love to see the dropping of divisions and going with conferences instead but scheduling becomes an issue. 2x4 interconference and 2x2 out-of-conference = too many games (56+30) / 2x3 interconference and 2x2 out-of conference = too few games (42+30) but 4 unbalanced division does that same exact thing. under this plan you could keep scheduling the same as now: Division names would create debate but it's an outside the box idea Messier Division: Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, and Minnesota LeFluer Division: Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Boston, and New Jersey Howe Division: Chicago, Detroit, Columbus, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo Gretzky Division Phoenix, Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose, and Colorado Hull Division St. Louis, Dallas, Nashville, Tampa Bay, and Florida Clark Division Carolina, Washington, Philadelphia, NY Rangers, and NY Islanders
shrader Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 Clark Division Carolina, Washington, Philadelphia, NY Rangers, and NY Islanders So Wendel gets a division named after him?
spndnchz Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 BOG meetings in California today/tonight. Looks like a decision is coming as soon as tonight about realignment.
LabattBlue Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 I am hoping they don't go back to the 1st two playoff rounds within your division.
SwampD Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 I am hoping they don't go back to the 1st two playoff rounds within your division. http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/7317327/what-realignment-scenarios-table-week-bog-meetings I cant say that I hate this. There are a few wtfs in there but that's to be expected.
Weave Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 I am hoping they don't go back to the 1st two playoff rounds within your division. I hope they do go back to starting the playoff in division. Nothing breeds emotion like playing a team many times in the regular season after a hard fought playoff series. I miss the tension of Boston-Buffalo, Montreal-Buffalo games.
LabattBlue Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 I hope they do go back to starting the playoff in division. Nothing breeds emotion like playing a team many times in the regular season after a hard fought playoff series. I miss the tension of Boston-Buffalo, Montreal-Buffalo games. I guess I am still shell shocked from getting beat in the playoffs by Boston, Montreal and Quebec in the 80's and early 90's until they dropped this format.
Derrico Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 Taking a micro look at how this affects the Sabres, I don't mind the four division format that is believed to be proposed as it has the Sabres as a 7 team division. All that would be added is Florida and Tampa Bay. I like competitive hockey but it keeps some of the perennial powerhouses out of the division (Detroit, Philly, Pit) but keeps several diehard original 6's in T.O., Montreal and Boston. I still think it's incredibly unfair to the two divisions with 8 teams though.
JJFIVEOH Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 On the Panthers game they just said the NHL has reached an agreement. No details yet.
Sabre_fan_from_SriLanka Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 http://tracking.si.com/2011/12/06/nhl-approves-four-conference-realignment-plan/ Looks like 4 conferences.... conferences will be 1. Washington, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, both New York teams (Islanders and Rangers), New Jersey and Carolina. 2. Columbus, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota, Nashville, St. Louis and Winnipeg. 3. Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Boston, Buffalo, Florida and Tampa Bay and the final conference 4. San Jose, Anaheim, Vancouver, Colorado, Edmonton, Calgary, Los Angeles and Phoenix.
X. Benedict Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 I am hoping they don't go back to the 1st two playoff rounds within your division. I think that would be bad for the league. It is nice to as many meaningful games in March as possible.
Derrico Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 Nhl.com says it's pretty much a done deal. Will be interesting next year...... http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=604852&navid=DL|NHL|home
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