BetweenThePipes00 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Posted September 16, 2011 I think the owners will not go for a luxury tax, as it will inevitably drive up total player costs. As a fan I don't want to see one either, because I think a level playing field in terms of what teams can spend on players is better for overall league competitiveness. Due to the various cap loopholes, as well as the spread between the minimum and maximum cap numbers, the playing field is already pretty uneven. A luxury tax would make it worse. (And even though it would probably help the Sabres now, I think even TP will slow down the spending at some point, and then the Sabres would be at a competitive disadvantage relative to the Rangers, Flyers, Leafs, Habs, etc.) Everything you say is true ... but once something is on the table you never know what will happen. I think it's probably just a threat from the players' side because there have also been rumblings about the owners wanting to do away with guaranteed contracts on some level ... I can't imagine Fehr ever going for that unless they allow the cap hit from signing bonuses to be spread over the life of the contract so the players can get their money up front like the NFL. But in the NHL that is basically being called "cap circumvention" and many want to do away with it ... it's not going to be a quick and easy deal to hammer out.
shrader Posted September 16, 2011 Report Posted September 16, 2011 To me, this sort of circumvention is less of a problem than the kind we were seeing with Kovy, etc., as it is only designed to make it more attractive to the player rather than to get better players under a fixed cap. With the Kovy type deal, teams are getting big $ players for a $2-3M lower cap hit by adding on years that are far less expensive, often without the intent of ever having the player with the team in those extra years. For example, they take a 6 year, $48M contract ($8M hit) and turn it into a 10 yr, $60M contract ($6M hit). In essence, a team can get, say, $70M worth of players (based on what their hypothetical one-year cap hits would be) under a $64M cap. Nobody would say that Myers at $5.5M is cheaper than he should be. The "cheap years" of this contract are during his prime. Ehrhoff's contract is far closer to being the big problem type of circumvention. That's the big part, but on top of that, the drop off on those late cheap years was so ridiculously drastic as well. It was already obvious what they were doing, but that extreme drop off was an additional slap in the face to the system.
LGR4GM Posted September 16, 2011 Report Posted September 16, 2011 I like Myers too, but he has a long way to go to get to Chara's or Weber's level. definitely a couple of years at least but within the next 3-4
krt88 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Posted September 16, 2011 Love te contract but off topic- Does anyone think Myers is going to change his number? I want to order a jersey but I'm the kiss of death when it comes to jersey's. I buy the jersey and the guy changes his number or he starts to suck! Seriously give this middle aged guy some feedback. Thanks
spndnchz Posted September 16, 2011 Report Posted September 16, 2011 Love te contract but off topic- Does anyone think Myers is going to change his number? I want to order a jersey but I'm the kiss of death when it comes to jersey's. I buy the jersey and the guy changes his number or he starts to suck! Seriously give this middle aged guy some feedback. Thanks Never.
pegs4mayor Posted September 16, 2011 Report Posted September 16, 2011 Love te contract but off topic- Does anyone think Myers is going to change his number? I want to order a jersey but I'm the kiss of death when it comes to jersey's. I buy the jersey and the guy changes his number or he starts to suck! Seriously give this middle aged guy some feedback. Thanks Highly doubt it
BetweenThePipes00 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 I hope he sticks with it now I guess, but when I saw he was No. 3 in junior I was hoping he would switch to that after he knew he was staying for good ... at the time it was available. I kind of liked the Devils old-school policy where they wouldn't give skaters anything over 29 ... but they have relaxed that in recent years too. As long as I see Myers lifting the Cup at some point, he can wear whatever he wants.
carpandean Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 He really like ketchup? Steve Heinze should have owned that number forever.
Derrico Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 I was away on holidays camping with no internet and come back to this!!!! Great news, and talk about being proactive on this one. Didn't they try to do this with Drury back in the day (have a contract in place well before the current deal expired) and manage to F&CK it up?! Great to see times are a changing because we can debate his nasty side etc. but like it or lump it, this is our franchise player. Especially considering we may only have 3 or 4 years left with Miller.
LGR4GM Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 I hope he sticks with it now I guess, but when I saw he was No. 3 in junior I was hoping he would switch to that after he knew he was staying for good ... at the time it was available. I kind of liked the Devils old-school policy where they wouldn't give skaters anything over 29 ... but they have relaxed that in recent years too. As long as I see Myers lifting the Cup at some point, he can wear whatever he wants. ...like the leather uniforms from Dodgeball a true underdog story?
pegs4mayor Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 I dunno if they make those outfits for giants... :oops:
Marvelo Posted September 21, 2011 Report Posted September 21, 2011 interesting bit about Myers, the Sabres' cap and Chris Butler in today's Elliote Friedman 30 Thoughts: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elliottefriedman/2011/09/sept19.html 15. GMs didn't have many complaints with Tyler Myers getting $38 million. "He had 48 points two years ago and 37 in what was supposedly a down year for him [last season]," one said. "You figure he'll get better and in arbitration, that's what those guys get." However, these same GMs would like to see Buffalo stop cutting $10 million cheques for signing bonuses. 16. Myers, by the way, spent a lot of time this summer working on his shot. He had Alexei Zhitnik's "no accuracy" disease. 17. Lots of debate about what the Sabres will do to get down to the cap. (They are $3.6 million over.) Darcy Regier says he's confident he'll be able to make a move. With some GMs, that means there's already something done pending what happens in the preseason. In a league where depth is arguably the most valuable commodity, there's no sense in making a deal unless you absolutely have to. Remember Vancouver? There were endless debates over who would be moved to make room for Sami Salo. By the time he got back, three other defencemen were hurt. Worse comes to worse, I don't see Terry Pegula getting overly upset about eating a contract or two. 18. Buffalo doesn't really have room for surplus defencemen, but Chris Butler (part of the Robyn Regehr package to Calgary) had a few Eastern Conference fans among opponents. A couple coaches said the Sabres will miss him.
X. Benedict Posted September 21, 2011 Report Posted September 21, 2011 Thanks Myers, by the way, spent a lot of time this summer working on his shot. He had Alexei Zhitnik's "no accuracy" disease. Can't say I really agree with this. 18. Buffalo doesn't really have room for surplus defencemen, but Chris Butler (part of the Robyn Regehr package to Calgary) had a few Eastern Conference fans among opponents. A couple coaches said the Sabres will miss him. He's a very serviceable player. I think he'll be better with the added ice time.
papazoid Posted September 30, 2011 Report Posted September 30, 2011 The Los Angeles Kings agreed to terms with Drew Doughty on Thursday after the star defenseman skipped the first 13 days of training camp, the team announced via Twitter. They did not release terms of the deal, but a source told ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun that the contract is for eight years, $56 million with an annual average of $7 million. makes tyler myers contract look even better....
korab rules Posted September 30, 2011 Report Posted September 30, 2011 The Los Angeles Kings agreed to terms with Drew Doughty on Thursday after the star defenseman skipped the first 13 days of training camp, the team announced via Twitter. They did not release terms of the deal, but a source told ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun that the contract is for eight years, $56 million with an annual average of $7 million. makes tyler myers contract look even better.... Yup.
nfreeman Posted October 1, 2011 Report Posted October 1, 2011 The Los Angeles Kings agreed to terms with Drew Doughty on Thursday after the star defenseman skipped the first 13 days of training camp, the team announced via Twitter. They did not release terms of the deal, but a source told ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun that the contract is for eight years, $56 million with an annual average of $7 million. makes tyler myers contract look even better.... Only if Myers continues to develop. He's well behind Doughty at this point.
LabattBlue Posted October 1, 2011 Report Posted October 1, 2011 Only if Myers continues to develop. He's well behind Doughty at this point. Agreed.
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