nobody Posted September 12, 2011 Report Posted September 12, 2011 This wouldn't be good for the league. Devils skate to verge of bankruptcy
Weave Posted September 12, 2011 Report Posted September 12, 2011 This wouldn't be good for the league. Devils skate to verge of bankruptcy Can you say "lower salary cap in the next CBA"? Sure you can.
X. Benedict Posted September 12, 2011 Report Posted September 12, 2011 This wouldn't be good for the league. Devils skate to verge of bankruptcy It wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing to happen. If they went to bankruptcy they could emerge with a functional owner rather than the dysfunctional consortium they have. That might as good a reason as any for the bank to call the loan.
waldo Posted September 12, 2011 Report Posted September 12, 2011 This wouldn't be good for the league. Devils skate to verge of bankruptcy A good move really, as others have said it will consoldiate ownership interests .
nobody Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Posted September 12, 2011 Everyone read the above post about Marchand before it gets deleted! :) On the Devil front: "Per Twitter: Ledger_NJDevils Rich Chere by SpectorsHockey Devils issue statement saying team is not "facing bankruptcy" and calling NY Post story inaccurate." So I guess that means that the Devils will close shop before the season starts. :)
sabres1970 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 This is bad for the league no doubt. Despite the league's rebound since the lockout, they can not have two teams failing financially in the biggest sports market in the country (obviously talking bout the Devils and Islanders, not the Rangers.)
X. Benedict Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 This is bad for the league no doubt. Despite the league's rebound since the lockout, they can not have two teams failing financially in the biggest sports market in the country (obviously talking bout the Devils and Islanders, not the Rangers.) Being bankrupt is like being pregnant. Either you are or you are not. Unless the bank calls the loan, or it is declared, it is business as usual.
nfreeman Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 I can't say I'm surprised. I've been to quite a few Devils games over the years, and the arena is usually about half empty -- even when the Devils are a top 3 EC team. Bottom line is that for most commuters (even if you live in NJ and work in NYC) it's just too inconveniently located for weeknight games. That sounds like a toxic situation. The article didn't give enough detail on the financing, but I doubt a buyer is going to come in with enough money to assume the debt and pay much (if anything) for the equity. The most likely outcome is that the banks have to take a haircut on the loans and the seller gets an inferior NJ bagel for his equity.
Huckleberry Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 If the fanbase is so low, or the interest of fans isn't enough to sell out the building. Moving the team is probably becoming a viable option fast in the minds of many.
FogBat Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 I can't say I'm surprised. I've been to quite a few Devils games over the years, and the arena is usually about half empty -- even when the Devils are a top 3 EC team. Bottom line is that for most commuters (even if you live in NJ and work in NYC) it's just too inconveniently located for weeknight games. That sounds like a toxic situation. The article didn't give enough detail on the financing, but I doubt a buyer is going to come in with enough money to assume the debt and pay much (if anything) for the equity. The most likely outcome is that the banks have to take a haircut on the loans and the seller gets an inferior NJ bagel for his equity. Ouch!
darksabre Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 I'll admit it, I don't care about the New Jersey Devils.
spndnchz Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 I'll admit it, I don't care about the New Jersey Devils. :lol:
weehawk Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 Lifetime Sabres fan here, but living in Raleigh now so I can feed my family. So we've got the NYI and the NJD in big financial trouble. This is in the hotbed of US hockey. Last year they were two of the bottom six teams in attendance. FLA, CAR, TB, and NSH had better attendance. Maybe we should all think twice before jumping on the southern teams. ATLs gone now and FLA takes over the bottom spot on southern team attendance, if you dont count CBJ. The Isles play in a shack and have iced bad teams for years, so no surprise there. It's highly doubtful that they will get a new bldg. They should win the race to QUE or KC even before PHO. I dont know what to say about the Devils. New building and a tradition of winning and they still cant cut it. Not looking good for them.
Eleven Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 I'll admit it, I don't care about the New Jersey Devils. It was DeLuca's second favorite team right up until Detroit became his second favorite team.
korab rules Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 How can they possibly go bankrupt with all those Kovalchuck jerseys they are selling hand over fist?
darksabre Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 The devils will continue to draw poorly until Brodeur retires.
wjag Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 The devils will continue to draw poorly until Brodeur retires. Interesting... What are you thinking here?
shrader Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 It was DeLuca's second favorite team right up until Detroit became his second favorite team. 2nd?
Weave Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 Interesting... What are you thinking here? I could buy into this. IMO NJD went with a dull-to-watch style of hockey to maximize the influence Brodeur has in any given game. It is awful hockey to watch, not unlike some of those Sabres teams with Hasek in net. 2-1 games don't excite the masses unless they are in the playoffs. When Brodeur moves on they are going to have to ice a more talented group of skaters, and play a game that takes advantage of those skaters if they want to succeed. More talented skaters playing a more uptempo style = more entertaining games, which in theory should mean more fan interest in the regular season. My $0.02 anyway.
X. Benedict Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 I could buy into this. IMO NJD went with a dull-to-watch style of hockey to maximize the influence Brodeur has in any given game. It is awful hockey to watch, not unlike some of those Sabres teams with Hasek in net. 2-1 games don't excite the masses unless they are in the playoffs. When Brodeur moves on they are going to have to ice a more talented group of skaters, and play a game that takes advantage of those skaters if they want to succeed. More talented skaters playing a more uptempo style = more entertaining games, which in theory should mean more fan interest in the regular season. My $0.02 anyway. I don't see much of a change happening soon. Most likely I think they'll try to find the replacement for Brodeur and stick to the operators manual: Trap - Score off of transition - defense stays home and disciplined - wait for powerplays - play for the point first.
PromoTheRobot Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 Devils to KC would be ironic. PTR
darksabre Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 Interesting... What are you thinking here? What weave said. My thinking is that basically NJs fanbase is tired of the current team much like many of us were tired of the leftovers from the 06-07 season. Start moving out more old parts, bring in some new, dynamic players, and pull the same thing the Caps did.
MattPie Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 I don't see much of a change happening soon. Most likely I think they'll try to find the replacement for Brodeur and stick to the operators manual: Trap - Score off of transition - defense stays home and disciplined - wait for powerplays - play for the point first. Miller + Pomminstein to NJD for Kovalchuk + Eric Boulton (E3)
spndnchz Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 Miller + Pomminstein to NJD for Kovalchuk + Eric Boulton (E3) Speaking of Pominville... have you seen him lately? The dude is huge. Looks like he's wearing shoulder pads. No, I don't mean he's gonna fight or anything like that but definitely stronger and more muscle.
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