That Aud Smell Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 There are less and less of them. It helps them to expand and also to add new markets. Craft beer is behaving in a manner consistent with how markets generally behave, IMO. There's also a winnowing that is coming, I think. New craft breweries have been opening at a fairly remarkable rate over the last several years. The growth of the market segment for craft has leveled off. Something's gotta give. Quote
Claude_Verret Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 You're in Ontario right? Means you can't even get it lol. Not all of the time. In Bobcaygeon.....could have been the Willie Nelson....could have been the (gose) w(h)ine..... Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 In Bobcaygeon.....could have been the Willie Nelson....could have been the (gose) w(h)ine..... oh man. that ain't right. OTOH, i gotta own all the whining i've down about that abomination. all justified, though. Quote
MattPie Posted August 16, 2016 Report Posted August 16, 2016 Not all of the time. Is there a major regional craft brewery that hasn't sold all or a chunk of its equity interests to Big Beer? Victory / Southern Tier, even if they bought each other or however that arrangement works. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 16, 2016 Report Posted August 16, 2016 Southern Tier for sure took on major private equity. http://www.firstbev.com/2014/09/southern-tier-partners-with-private-equity-hires-ex-pabst-exec/ Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 On a whim, purchased a Fuller's ESB as part of a Wegmans craft pack (which is arguably the greatest creation in modern grocery shopping history)...and wow, I don't know what my expectations were, but this greatly exceeded them. I don't have the pallet/knowledge to write a Weave-like description, but man, what a beer! I'm sad I only had the one bottle. Quote
Sabel79 Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 On a whim, purchased a Fuller's ESB as part of a Wegmans craft pack (which is arguably the greatest creation in modern grocery shopping history)...and wow, I don't know what my expectations were, but this greatly exceeded them. I don't have the pallet/knowledge to write a Weave-like description, but man, what a beer! I'm sad I only had the one bottle. The make your own six pack thing raises a problem for me. A-holes, at more than one of my local markets, tend to expand what goes in them well beyond the clearly marked bounds of the loose bottles there for that purpose and raid sixes off the shelves, and worse. My wife came home with a 12 once, two missing. Often you'll find five or fewer beers to a six on the shelves. This has to be a pain for the store and the beverage distributor, since both are likely required to keep track of where these things go.... It's a brilliant idea, just wish people didn't suck so hard. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 The make your own six pack thing raises a problem for me. A-holes, at more than one of my local markets, tend to expand what goes in them well beyond the clearly marked bounds of the loose bottles there for that purpose and raid sixes off the shelves, and worse. My wife came home with a 12 once, two missing. Often you'll find five or fewer beers to a six on the shelves. This has to be a pain for the store and the beverage distributor, since both are likely required to keep track of where these things go.... It's a brilliant idea, just wish people didn't suck so hard. I've talked to some beer vendors and they've told me to just take whatever. Along the lines of "People are going to do it anyway, we can't stop it, so feel free we don't care." Now to contract my previous beer, one I dislike: Victory Berliner Weisse. I generally love Victory's offerings, so I took a flyer on this...but man, way way way too sour for my taste. Every sip I'm making the face that people who don't like beer but pretend they do make when drinking. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 Every sip I'm making the face that people who don't like beer but pretend they do make when drinking. Also a face deployed by many beer aficionados who insist they love the Gose style. Hey Oh! Quote
MattPie Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 Also a face deployed by many beer aficionados who insist they love the Gose style. Hey Oh! I wonder which Buffalo brewer is going to step it with "Give a honk for the Gose". Quote
LGR4GM Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 Also a face deployed by many beer aficionados who insist they love the Gose style. Hey Oh! There is definitely a thing to "like" the new style that came out. A couple years ago everyone busted my balls around here because I don't care for most IPA's. I stuck to my guns. I still don't like IPA's. Gose, really are dependent on the gose. Some do taste like sweat. Quote
darksabre Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 I wonder which Buffalo brewer is going to step it with "Give a honk for the Gose". boooooo Quote
MattPie Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 boooooo Would you prefer Duck Duck Gose? Quote
darksabre Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 Would you prefer Duck Duck Gose? :w00t: Quote
LTS Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 Would you prefer Duck Duck Gose? And it's good too.. but then Lost Abbey knows how to make great beer. The Gose style has provided many interesting names. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 There is definitely a thing to "like" the new style that came out. A couple years ago everyone busted my balls around here because I don't care for most IPA's. I stuck to my guns. I still don't like IPA's. Gose, really are dependent on the gose. Some do taste like sweat. Couple years ago and IPAs? Anyway. Good for you. I love the IPA style. I think it is objectively delicious. (However, I will note: I didn't actually take to it until I was a little older -- maybe those taste buds needed to wear down a bit?) The thing that I fell into was only drinking IPAs because IPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPA. One evening, I was like, I'm gonna order a damn brown ale. And it was delicious. I was reminded: Browns are my fave. Still are! Quote
Claude_Verret Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Wicked Weeds passionfruit Gose...another solid one. Edited August 18, 2016 by Claude_Verret Quote
LGR4GM Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 Couple years ago and IPAs? Anyway. Good for you. I love the IPA style. I think it is objectively delicious. (However, I will note: I didn't actually take to it until I was a little older -- maybe those taste buds needed to wear down a bit?) The thing that I fell into was only drinking IPAs because IPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPAIPA. One evening, I was like, I'm gonna order a damn brown ale. And it was delicious. I was reminded: Browns are my fave. Still are! I don't like IPA's because they tend to be dry. I don't know of another way to describe it. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 I don't like IPA's because they tend to be dry. I don't know of another way to describe it. Might be the astringency? Quote
LGR4GM Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 Might be the astringency? I assume they are suppose to be? If that is the case, it just isn't a style I care for. Double IPA's Red ales, Bourbon Barrel Aged, Stouts, Porters, Wheats are my comfort zone. Of course with football season here, I will be drinking some good old light beer. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted August 18, 2016 Report Posted August 18, 2016 I assume they are suppose to be? If that is the case, it just isn't a style I care for. Double IPA's Red ales, Bourbon Barrel Aged, Stouts, Porters, Wheats are my comfort zone. Of course with football season here, I will be drinking some good old light beer. Cheers! Quote
The Dominator Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 I assume they are suppose to be? If that is the case, it just isn't a style I care for. Double IPA's Red ales, Bourbon Barrel Aged, Stouts, Porters, Wheats are my comfort zone. Of course with football season here, I will be drinking some good old light beer. I'm with you on the red ales, bourbon barrel aged, porters, wheats along with stouts and brown ales. Just bought a 12 pack of Genny cream for the game tomorrow though! Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted September 4, 2016 Report Posted September 4, 2016 Tonight I am diving into the world of gose. And while I cannot say I share the passionate hatred of the style with Smell, nor would I be willing to toss Liger from the Skyway should he make it to the Sabrespace meetup for insisting the style is good, I will say I don't think it's for me. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted September 4, 2016 Report Posted September 4, 2016 I am sorry you drank spiced sweat. I look forward to the day that the Gose style is formally adjudicated as the abomination that it is. Quote
Winston Posted September 4, 2016 Report Posted September 4, 2016 I enjoyed a kolsch flavored with orange and vanilla beans the other day. It's called the Creamsikolsch, which I got a kick out of. It was something new. Big flavor for a very drinkable, summer beer. 4.9Abv, it went down easy. Glad I wasn't in the mood for an IPA and ordered it. Probably wouldn't have if it weren't for the name, either! Quote
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