LastPommerFan Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 The player I want on the ice in the last first five minutes when my team needs a three goals is Ryan Miller, in the opposing teams net. :lol: Now I will just sit back and listen for the sound of all the heads exploding across Western New York. fixed
Calvin Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 The player I want on the ice in the first five minutes when my team needs three goals is Ryan Miller, in the opposing teams net. :lol: Now I will just sit back and listen for the sound of all the heads exploding across Western New York. fixed Just out of curiosity, in his whole career with the Sabres, how many times has Miller given up three goals in five minutes?
LabattBlue Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Just out of curiosity, in his whole career with the Sabres, how many times has Miller given up three goals in five minutes? 200?
LastPommerFan Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Just out of curiosity, in his whole career with the Sabres, how many times has Miller given up three goals in five minutes? He's done it 83 times, but that's just my opinion.
apuszczalowski Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 He's done it 83 times, but that's just my opinion. But do you have "cherry picked" historical records to prove your opinion
apuszczalowski Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Just out of curiosity, in his whole career with the Sabres, how many times has Miller given up three goals in five minutes? according to the fans, you would think every game. Then he goes back to the locker room kicking a few dogs and smacking around some children, then blaming the rest of his team for each goal
shrader Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 But do you have "cherry picked" historical records to prove your opinion That's not even debatable.
spndnchz Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Posted November 4, 2011 Put it in Louie! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndy0blENXR8 Goal was allowed.
cdexchange Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 I don't get how that's a good goal.
Samson's Flow Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 That briere goal was wild. And probably against the rules. But the league is allowing the 'spinorama' shot in shootouts so its essentially the same thing... :unsure:
darksabre Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 I don't get how that's a good goal. Same here. He stopped skating. How is that a goal? You're supposed to maintain forward motion during the shootout.
apuszczalowski Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Same here. He stopped skating. How is that a goal? You're supposed to maintain forward motion during the shootout. Hmmmm, anyone have the rules for what it says in the shootout? He didn't lose control of the puck, but he did come to a stop and start up again. I would be pissed if I was the goalie defending that because in my head, I am playing the shot as him coming in without stopping like that. Once he stops I'm down ready for the shot and commited, not worrying if he is going to try and go around me
BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 I'm in class and too lazy to look the rule up, but i believe it's the puck that has to maintain forward motion, not the player. As written that would negate spinning shootout goals. I'm pretty sure the puck stopped on the shot, which is why I'm inclined to believe it shouldn't be a good goal. Regardless, that move was incredible, good goal or not.
2ForTripping Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 I'm in class and too lazy to look the rule up, but i believe it's the puck that has to maintain forward motion, not the player. As written that would negate spinning shootout goals. I'm pretty sure the puck stopped on the shot, which is why I'm inclined to believe it shouldn't be a good goal. Regardless, that move was incredible, good goal or not. Incredible? Really. He put on the brakes made some snow and skated around a flopped netminder.the putting on the brakes and snow thing is done countless times during games
darksabre Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Hmmmm, anyone have the rules for what it says in the shootout? He didn't lose control of the puck, but he did come to a stop and start up again. I would be pissed if I was the goalie defending that because in my head, I am playing the shot as him coming in without stopping like that. Once he stops I'm down ready for the shot and commited, not worrying if he is going to try and go around me It doesn't explicitly say in the rules that the player is not allowed to stop, but it has always been interpreted that way. The point of a shootout is a "continuous motion", which is why the spinorama has been allowed, because it is continuous. Briere stopping, stickhandling and then shooting, to me, is not a continuous motion. This will need to be addressed by the NHL or else everyone is going to start doing it.
thesportsbuff Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 That's a good goal. And a beauty.
shrader Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 It doesn't explicitly say in the rules that the player is not allowed to stop, but it has always been interpreted that way. The point of a shootout is a "continuous motion", which is why the spinorama has been allowed, because it is continuous. Briere stopping, stickhandling and then shooting, to me, is not a continuous motion. This will need to be addressed by the NHL or else everyone is going to start doing it. They amended the rule to cover spinoramas. Here Briere stops AND the puck stops. There's no way they should have allowed that one.
Bullwinkle Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 They amended the rule to cover spinoramas. Here Briere stops AND the puck stops. There's no way they should have allowed that one. I absolutely agree. Forward motion is required, but whether it pertains to the player or the puck is irrelevant here because BOTH stopped.
shrader Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 I absolutely agree. Forward motion is required, but whether it pertains to the player or the puck is irrelevant here because BOTH stopped. I'd love it if someone out there had the skills to just completely remove all players from a video and only show the puck. I already know what response is coming from certain people. If someone could edit out everything but the puck, you would see whether or not it maintains forward motion at all times.
korab rules Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 I'd love it if someone out there had the skills to just completely remove all players from a video and only show the puck. I already know what response is coming from certain people. If someone could edit out everything but the puck, you would see whether or not it maintains forward motion at all times. DON'T open that door. The league has basically said anything goes in a shootout. The shootout has resulted in more memos from the league office than anything since June of 99.
shrader Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 DON'T open that door. The league has basically said anything goes in a shootout. The shootout has resulted in more memos from the league office than anything since June of 99. I'm not saying the league needs to go that route. I just think it would be interesting for this discussion.
korab rules Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 I'm not saying the league needs to go that route. I just think it would be interesting for this discussion. Isn't there a 12 page thread somewhere about whether the puck moves forward on a spinorama, and whether the puck is considered in motion even if it stops due to the rotation of the earth and the revolution of the earth around the sun? Just trying to head another one of those off at the pass.
shrader Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Isn't there a 12 page thread somewhere about whether the puck moves forward on a spinorama, and whether the puck is considered in motion even if it stops due to the rotation of the earth and the revolution of the earth around the sun? Just trying to head another one of those off at the pass. That's why I said I know exactly which response is coming. But that's the point here, if someone actually had the skills to isolate the puck and only the puck, that question is answered.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 That's why I said I know exactly which response is coming. But that's the point here, if someone actually had the skills to isolate the puck and only the puck, that question is answered. I hear chz has a nice video getup at home.
spndnchz Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Posted November 4, 2011 I hear chz has a nice video getup at home. #menotechie
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