bunomatic Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Anyone else sick of long gaps between games? Talk about a momentum killer. Apparently the maple laughs are going through something similar as well.
RazielSabre Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 I'll say it. I think Fleury is overrated. But...but...but he plays on the pens so therefore he has to be amazing. :blink:
Marvelo Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 on another note, it looks like it's going to be a long year for the the Panthers and Sens. I'm pitying Kevin Dineen already. With the Sens fans and their media, the longer the better.
SabresFan526 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Interesting.. any more news on this front? Here you go. Some more news on this topic: Stars Cap Problems
thesportsbuff Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 I'll say it. I think Fleury is overrated. I would agree to an extent. I think he's gotta be Top 10, but frankly I don't see what the guys on Versus, who named him their pick for the Vezina this year, are seeing in him. He's a good goalie, and I'm not just bashing him because I hate the Penguins, but he just rarely has performances that I say "wow this guy is amazing!" To be fair, though, I don't watch as many Penguins game as the average Penguins fan does, so... on another note, it looks like it's going to be a long year for the the Panthers and Sens. I'm pitying Kevin Dineen already. With the Sens fans and their media, the longer the better. While there doesn't seem to be much hope for the Sens, I actually think the Panthers will be a decent, middle-of-the-pack team. Where as the Senators have Spezza/Alfredsson followed by a roster full of virtual no-names, the Panthers have a fairly balanced roster of good-but-not-great players, some of whom have been through the playoff grind before and have a lot of experience. I wouldn't be shocked to see Florida to compete for that 8th playoff spot, but ultimately I think they'll fall short (because I think Toronto is good enough to finish 7th/8th). Here you go. Some more news on this topic: Stars Cap Problems Thanks for that. Cleared up some confusion on my end.
thesportsbuff Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 On an unrelated note, did anybody see Jeremy Roenick blowing up on Versus last night over how long it's taken Crosby to come back? I was half asleep and don't remember verbatim what he said, but he was yelling at the top of his lungs about how sick he is of seeing Crosby on TV every morning saying "no update" on his condition. It basically sounded like JR was criticizing Pittsburgh for being so careful with Crosby... correct me if you heard it differently.
shrader Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Anyone else sick of long gaps between games? Talk about a momentum killer. Apparently the maple laughs are going through something similar as well. The Sabres started the season in Europe. What do you expect?
Andrew Amerk Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 While there doesn't seem to be much hope for the Sens, I actually think the Panthers will be a decent, middle-of-the-pack team. Where as the Senators have Spezza/Alfredsson followed by a roster full of virtual no-names, the Panthers have a fairly balanced roster of good-but-not-great players, some of whom have been through the playoff grind before and have a lot of experience. I wouldn't be shocked to see Florida to compete for that 8th playoff spot, but ultimately I think they'll fall short (because I think Toronto is good enough In regards to the Sens: look what the Bills are doing a roster of "no-name players." Panthers: I wouldn't be shocked to see them make playoffs either. They have enough decent players to do it, they just need to gel together. If Theodore can get hot down the stretch, I think their odds get even better...
RazielSabre Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 In regards to the Sens: look what the Bills are doing a roster of "no-name players." Panthers: I wouldn't be shocked to see them make playoffs either. They have enough decent players to do it, they just need to gel together. If Theodore can get hot down the stretch, I think their odds get even better... Sens I'm counting out now, just don't think they'll do it. Panthers I think it'll depend hugely on what teams collapse mid season, and whether they can rise to the challenge.
thesportsbuff Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 In regards to the Sens: look what the Bills are doing a roster of "no-name players." Panthers: I wouldn't be shocked to see them make playoffs either. They have enough decent players to do it, they just need to gel together. If Theodore can get hot down the stretch, I think their odds get even better... Well, that's apples to oranges w/ the Bills. But it's not just that the Sens are "no names", it's that the majority of them are "known" around the league, they just simply aren't very good. I don't think Chris Neil or Konopka or Winchester or Michalek and I'll even include Foligno (despite his young age and the possibility of developing..) are going to suddenly blossom into goal scorers. The only thing working in their favor is their youth. They have 6 forwards and 5 defensemen (not all starters of course) younger than 25 years old, so there is room for improvement. Their only hope, imo, is if Filatov turns out to really be the player CBJ thought he was going to become, Zibanejad plays well enough to earn a full season here (I think he's in that situation where he could be sent down if he plays less than 10 games), and Bobby Butler & the rest of the Sens' young blood really make strides this season. All in all, they just aren't a good team. They have a lot of youth but not many of them are expected to turn into "star" players.. Edmonton has a lot of youth, too, and most of them are expected to become big time players eventually, but they are still a long ways from being a great team, too -- yet, closer than Ottawa. Their goaltending stinks, Alfredsson is 38 years old and isn't going to put up the numbers he used to, leaving Spezza as their only truly dangerous forward. I just don't see it happening.
bunomatic Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 The Sabres started the season in Europe. What do you expect? You sure told me. Where did the leafs start? They're off till Saturday.5-6 days between games is a bit much. Especially when the Sabres have 22 back to backs this year.
korab rules Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 On an unrelated note, did anybody see Jeremy Roenick blowing up on Versus last night over how long it's taken Crosby to come back? I was half asleep and don't remember verbatim what he said, but he was yelling at the top of his lungs about how sick he is of seeing Crosby on TV every morning saying "no update" on his condition. It basically sounded like JR was criticizing Pittsburgh for being so careful with Crosby... correct me if you heard it differently. I think it's JR calling Syd a kitty kat.
thesportsbuff Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 I think it's JR calling Syd a kitty kat. Pretty much, but either way.... what a freaking idiot.
apuszczalowski Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Anyone else sick of long gaps between games? Talk about a momentum killer. Apparently the maple laughs are going through something similar as well. I think they also have their first 5-7 games played at home too.
apuszczalowski Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 On an unrelated note, did anybody see Jeremy Roenick blowing up on Versus last night over how long it's taken Crosby to come back? I was half asleep and don't remember verbatim what he said, but he was yelling at the top of his lungs about how sick he is of seeing Crosby on TV every morning saying "no update" on his condition. It basically sounded like JR was criticizing Pittsburgh for being so careful with Crosby... correct me if you heard it differently. His complaint was that the media is constantly giving hour to hour updates on Crosby asking the same thing every time. He, like many others, is just sick and tired of hearing about how he isn't ready to come back yet. He is complaining to the media to let us know when he is ready, until then, enough
shrader Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 You sure told me. Where did the leafs start? They're off till Saturday.5-6 days between games is a bit much. Especially when the Sabres have 22 back to backs this year. Take a look at the rest of the season. There's a couple 3 day lay offs sprinkled in, but that's the longest they ever go without a game. The schedule is fine.
bunomatic Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Take a look at the rest of the season. There's a couple 3 day lay offs sprinkled in, but that's the longest they ever go without a game. The schedule is fine. Yeah I guess I'm just chompin at the bit. I can't wait for this season to get going and I'm missing seeing the boys play.
korab rules Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Pretty much, but either way.... what a freaking idiot. Different era, different mind set. I hated JR as a player for the other team - he was a bad ass - he would beat you on the scoreboard, beat you in a fight, and then chirp you the rest of the night about it. If he had played in Buffalo, his number would be retired. I don't always agree with everything he says, but he is entertaining (and an idiot). Most importantly, he is entertaining, and I agree with him that syd is a kitty kat.
apuszczalowski Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 As for the Sens/Panthers discussion. The Panthers seem like they could have a decent team. they could make the playoffs if they gel and some of their vets show some signs of playing like they did in their primes (Theodore, Campbell) As for the Sens, they are tough to call. They have ALOT of youth and potential in the lineup, with a few good veterans that they are trying to use to teach the youth. Goaltending seems good enough if the team infront plays well. The problem has been they start games out with 2 horrible periods, and then become dangerous in the 3rd. They came back to beat Minneosota last night in a shoot out, and just about beat the Laughs on Saturday outscoring them 5-2 in the 3rd period. They looked worse then an AHL team out there on Saturday for periods 1 and 2, then they came back from being down 4-0 to lose 6-5. both those teams have brand new 1st time NHL head coaches, once they get used to coaching in the NHL and their youth gets more experience and the team gels, they could look much better
LGR4GM Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 As for the Sens/Panthers discussion. The Panthers seem like they could have a decent team. they could make the playoffs if they gel and some of their vets show some signs of playing like they did in their primes (Theodore, Campbell) As for the Sens, they are tough to call. They have ALOT of youth and potential in the lineup, with a few good veterans that they are trying to use to teach the youth. Goaltending seems good enough if the team infront plays well. The problem has been they start games out with 2 horrible periods, and then become dangerous in the 3rd. They came back to beat Minneosota last night in a shoot out, and just about beat the Laughs on Saturday outscoring them 5-2 in the 3rd period. They looked worse then an AHL team out there on Saturday for periods 1 and 2, then they came back from being down 4-0 to lose 6-5. both those teams have brand new 1st time NHL head coaches, once they get used to coaching in the NHL and their youth gets more experience and the team gels, they could look much better The problem with the sens is that they are barely competing against teams like the laughs and the panthers so what happens when they play 6 games against Buffalo, Boston, and even Montreal... Not to mention teams like Pitts, philly, and Washington... Ottawa has potential but that potential is at least 2 full seasons from blossoming into any sort of playoff team. On another note I think the leafs do have the potential to be better and possibly make the playoffs this year but that would be a bit of a stretch.
thesportsbuff Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Yeah I guess I'm just chompin at the bit. I can't wait for this season to get going and I'm missing seeing the boys play. I hear that. It is a painfully long wait, especially after how well they played.
korab rules Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 As for the Sens/Panthers discussion. The Panthers seem like they could have a decent team. they could make the playoffs if they gel and some of their vets show some signs of playing like they did in their primes (Theodore, Campbell) As for the Sens, they are tough to call. They have ALOT of youth and potential in the lineup, with a few good veterans that they are trying to use to teach the youth. Goaltending seems good enough if the team infront plays well. The problem has been they start games out with 2 horrible periods, and then become dangerous in the 3rd. They came back to beat Minneosota last night in a shoot out, and just about beat the Laughs on Saturday outscoring them 5-2 in the 3rd period. They looked worse then an AHL team out there on Saturday for periods 1 and 2, then they came back from being down 4-0 to lose 6-5. both those teams have brand new 1st time NHL head coaches, once they get used to coaching in the NHL and their youth gets more experience and the team gels, they could look much better Any team pinning its playoff hopes on Jose ThreeorFour returning to form will be sadly disappointed. He hasn't been the same player since the lockout. His entire reputation is based on one season where he stood on his head a decade ago.
thesportsbuff Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Different era, different mind set. I hated JR as a player for the other team - he was a bad ass - he would beat you on the scoreboard, beat you in a fight, and then chirp you the rest of the night about it. If he had played in Buffalo, his number would be retired. I don't always agree with everything he says, but he is entertaining (and an idiot). Most importantly, he is entertaining, and I agree with him that syd is a kitty kat. Well, I agree that Sid is a kitty kat.... but not based on his concussion or how he's handled his recovery. But according to apuz it looks like I may have been off on what he was talking about anyway. Heh, like I said, I was half asleep, forgot to turn off my surround sound system and passed out in the third period of pens/panthers... woke up to him screaming at the top of his lungs about how sick he is of hearing about Crosby. On another note I think the leafs do have the potential to be better and possibly make the playoffs this year but that would be a bit of a stretch. I wouldn't consider it that big of a stretch. They have a pretty good team. I think they are poised to make a playoff run, especially if Reimer lives up to the hype for most of the season. People can hate on Kessel all they want but he is one of the most dangerous players in the NE division. Grabovski has been great -- I don't know how he isn't their #1 center based on his production, but he and Kulemin don't get the credit they deserve-- I think that will change this year. MacArthur could have another good year and manage 20, Lupul is capable of scoring 20... their defense is pretty good. Imagine if TC plays like the TC of a few seasons ago (*insert "he's already playing that way -- INJURED" jokes here*) and scores 15 g / 60 assists. We saw what they can do with a good goaltender the second half of last year.. They are a better team than Montreal. Buffalo and Boston should compete for the NE Division, but I think Toronto will beat out Montreal and certainly Ottawa. Whether that will be enough to make playoffs, I'm not sure, but I wouldn't take them lightly.
thesportsbuff Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Any team pinning its playoff hopes on Jose ThreeorFour returning to form will be sadly disappointed. He hasn't been the same player since the lockout. His entire reputation is based on one season where he stood on his head a decade ago. Thank god I'm not the only one who feels that way. However, I don't think Florida will be depending on Theodore. I think it's their young guy Jacob Markstrom that will eventually start carrying the load.
Cereal Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 I'll say it. I think Fleury is overrated. On NHL on the Fly this morning, they kept insisting that if you're MAF on the Pens with a two-goal lead, you're allowed to make mistakes, referring to his lackluster play on the Cats' third goal last night. About how many other goalies would they "give a break" like that? It was laughable. Here you go. Some more news on this topic: Stars Cap Problems By when do they need to get above the floor? For their next game? It will be interesting to see who pushes what at them.
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