Robyn Regehr, Kotalik and 2nd round pick (2012) to Sabres

[LastPommerFan]

Kotalik has cleared waivers twice in the last year. I'm not worried one bit about that, and I don't think anyone in Buffalo should be.

 

Last year was not the final year of his contract. they'd have been signing up for the full monty for this season. This year there is no such barrier. so yes, it is now a worry.

[Weave]

Rhett Warrener said that he actually has a big shot from the point, but being a defense-first type defenseman, is hesitant to use it to avoid a block and rush the other way. I would say that we shouldn't get our hopes up about Regehr's offensive contribution. Any we get will be gravy over his defensive contributions.

 

Speaking of Warrener.....

 

This deal has Rhett Warrener written all over it. Not meaning that Warrener was involved, rather it is more like Darcy has been here before. Darcy's first move was to go out and get another Rhett Warrener. I can't help but think that Darcy is building a more expensive version of the team he built in the late 90's.

 

So who is this era's Stu Barnes and Michael Peca?

 

And Does Brad Boyes = Geoff Sanderson?

 

Could be a fun ride coming.

[deluca67]

I think we all have to agree that Regehr brings more than points to this team. He brings toughness, veteran leadership, and blocks a lot of shots. If he has a shot from the point, maybe here he might crank it more, but if he stays at home and stops the oppositions forwards from walking in on miller every freaking game then we should be all for it. Ive not seen him play much and i dont know a lot of details about Regehr but it seems to fill a need. Myers, Sekera, Mag, Leo all can score or have assists, having one guy whos more worried about the puck going into his own net is something the sabres now have.

 

Looking at the numbers, i bet kotalik and morrisonn go to rochester and maybe wonder depending on training camp if Hecht or another player might visit the amercks from time to time.

 

also: I love the fact that even with some of these other trades happening TSN still has the main story on the trade page about something the sabres did.... feels good for a change to be making headlines.

The offense Regehr can add probably won't show up on his stat line. If paired with Myers I would expect a huge increase in Myers production. He'll be free to do what he does best offensively.

[LGR4GM]

The offense Regehr can add probably won't show up on his stat line. If paired with Myers I would expect a huge increase in Myers production. He'll be free to do what he does best offensively.

exactly. i bet it may show up in Millers stats too, because we can finally lockdown other teams without going into the fabled alamo mood.

[Bmwolf21]

Last year was not the final year of his contract. they'd have been signing up for the full monty for this season. This year there is no such barrier. so yes, it is now a worry.

I still don't see where the problem is. You're actually worried about losing a floating, lazy player who has cleared waivers twice in the last year, who is in the final year of his contract, and was a throw-in/salary dump in this deal, all because we'd be on the hook for what, at most $1.5M, for a player we've already traded away once?

 

Putting aside the fact that Kotalik is the most frustrating player to watch, I would rather see the Sabres buy him out and be done with him. If not I would throw him down to Rochester and take the chance that someone claims him. Either way I really don't see any fear or worry in having someone claim him on waivers.

[donteatyellowsnow]

Now that Regehr is here, what number does he wear? I don't think Goose gives up #28.

 

#82? nah, too high

#29? can't Pominville

#27? Will Morrisonn still be here?

#10? 2+8 = 10 possibility.

#18? it's not 28 but it has an 8 in it

#38? same as #18

#48? same as #18

#56? 28+28=56, nah

#2? i dunno

 

what numbers did he wear in juniors or the minors?

[inkman]

Now that Regehr is here, what number does he wear? I don't think Goose gives up #28.

 

#82? nah, too high

#29? can't Pominville

#27? Will Morrisonn still be here?

#10? 2+8 = 10 possibility.

#18? it's not 28 but it has an 8 in it

#38? same as #18

#48? same as #18

#56? 28+28=56, nah

#2? i dunno

 

what numbers did he wear in juniors or the minors?

A complete stab in the dark but I'm guessing 8.

[LastPommerFan]

I still don't see where the problem is. You're actually worried about losing a floating, lazy player who has cleared waivers twice in the last year, who is in the final year of his contract, and was a throw-in/salary dump in this deal, all because we'd be on the hook for what, at most $1.5M, for a player we've already traded away once?

 

Putting aside the fact that Kotalik is the most frustrating player to watch, I would rather see the Sabres buy him out and be done with him. If not I would throw him down to Rochester and take the chance that someone claims him. Either way I really don't see any fear or worry in having someone claim him on waivers.

 

I'm ok sending him down, my concern is only on the way back up. It's not the cash, clearly that's not an issue anymore. The problem is that we'd eat a $1.5M effective cap hit for nothing. This is not worth the risk. Kassian and Foligno get the call before kotalik. One possibility is that pommers injury keeps him out till say, thanksgiving. If that's the case, ales goes down for good at the end of november to make room for pominvilles cap space when he comes off LTIR. I do believe kotalik is an attractive specialist at $1.5M to a team with a struggling power play, and I don't want to just give away more than a mil in cap space.

 

To summarize, down = ok, up = risky.

[Sterling Archer]

A complete stab in the dark but I'm guessing 8.

 

 

Cody McCormick

[gregkash]

Now that Regehr is here, what number does he wear? I don't think Goose gives up #28.

 

#82? nah, too high

#29? can't Pominville

#27? Will Morrisonn still be here?

#10? 2+8 = 10 possibility.

#18? it's not 28 but it has an 8 in it

#38? same as #18

#48? same as #18

#56? 28+28=56, nah

#2? i dunno

 

what numbers did he wear in juniors or the minors?

 

Well I can certainly say it won't be 2.

[Braedon]

Now that Regehr is here, what number does he wear? I don't think Goose gives up #28.

 

#82? nah, too high

#29? can't Pominville

#27? Will Morrisonn still be here?

#10? 2+8 = 10 possibility.

#18? it's not 28 but it has an 8 in it

#38? same as #18

#48? same as #18

#56? 28+28=56, nah

#2? i dunno

 

what numbers did he wear in juniors or the minors?

 

I'm putting money on 24. He wore it in juniors with Kamloops and it's not taken on our roster.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

Now that Regehr is here, what number does he wear? I don't think Goose gives up #28.

 

 

Don't be too sure of that.....Gaustad will be tickled pink that Regehr cured pediatric cancer, houses stowaway Tibetan Monks, and is a swinger in the NHLPA. I think Gaustad is just the type of guy who would be smart/classy enough to give it to him.

[Sterling Archer]

Don't be too sure of that.....Gaustad will be tickled pink that Regehr cured pediatric cancer, houses stowaway Tibetan Monks, and is a swinger in the NHLPA. I think Gaustad is just the type of guy who would be smart/classy enough to give it to him.

 

But does the organization let that sort of thing slide. They have built Gaustad into one of the faces of the franchise despite his lack of skills. I suppose I could ask him the next time I see him.

[carpandean]

I'm putting money on 24. He wore it in juniors with Kamloops and it's not taken on our roster.

A good guess. It's been available (other than maybe as a rookie's training camp number) since Pyatt left.

[darksabre]

Don't be too sure of that.....Gaustad will be tickled pink that Regehr cured pediatric cancer, houses stowaway Tibetan Monks, and is a swinger in the NHLPA. I think Gaustad is just the type of guy who would be smart/classy enough to give it to him.

 

I don't think Regehr would ask for it though.

[BuffaloSoldier2010]

I'm putting money on 24. He wore it in juniors with Kamloops and it's not taken on our roster.

hahaha... Kamloops....

[Braedon]

hahaha... Kamloops....

 

I think it was a breakfast cereal I used to eat. Oh wait that was something else.

[Taro T]

First, if Kotalik goes to rochester, it would likely be permanant, he would have to clear rentry waivers on the way up, and I could see another team that is struggling on the PP picking him up at half his remaining salary, then we're stuck with the other half and no player.

 

Under no circumstance is signing connolly a viable option. He is a liability every time he steps on the ice. I'd rather watch Adam struggle on the 4th line and move goose up to #3.

 

Also, we are probably looking for a #2 center, not a #1. Roy's numbers over the last few years put him in the top 20 centers when you compensate for games played. It appears we are building a defensive team, so I expect Roy is labeled for the top center line. I expect we are going after a tough SoB over a point a game guy.

He is truly scary at the point on the PP. I will give you that, but he is solid (probably 3rd best on the team) at the PK and reasonable when away from the opposing blue line at even strength.

 

I would not be surprised to see him back, though as most everyone else here, I would prefer him not back. I haven't heard anything about how he's recovering from the latest concussion; I would expect him to receive a clean bill of health prior to the Sabres signing him (if they do sign him) as the '06-'07 experience has to still be fresh in DR's memory.

[X. Benedict]

He is truly scary at the point on the PP. I will give you that, but he is solid (probably 3rd best on the team) at the PK and reasonable when away from the opposing blue line at even strength.

 

I would not be surprised to see him back, though as most everyone else here, I would prefer him not back. I haven't heard anything about how he's recovering from the latest concussion; I would expect him to receive a clean bill of health prior to the Sabres signing him (if they do sign him) as the '06-'07 experience has to still be fresh in DR's memory.

 

Al can be a useful player. PP Point shot, Shootout, ......etc.

 

Sather signed a dumb contract with him....but getting a 2nd round pick to take that contract isn't a problem...

 

My bet is that he moves between Rochester and Buffalo.

 

If he get claimed on re-entry.....that's not such a problem either.

[Taro T]

They have $10 million coming off the books next year with Boyes, Hecht and Gaustad. A patch work center group along with a player like Bieksa might be the best way to go.

I think you'd almost be guaranteed that Connolly will be one of the C's if they do add another stud on the D. I can live w/ that (though I think he and the Sabres would be better off w/ getting a fresh start somewhere else).

 

I still rue them not re-signing Dominic Moore as having him in the mix would have been nice. Then the C's could have been Roy, Connolly, Moore, Goose w/ Hecht &/or Adam as the replacement when 1 or more are injured. W/ a really solid D, and an expectation that those would be your C's for just the one season (or even better, just until the trade deadline) I'd be good w/ that.

 

PS - welcome to 1st Class. ;) Glad to see you're enjoying the ride.

[deluca67]

I think you'd almost be guaranteed that Connolly will be one of the C's if they do add another stud on the D. I can live w/ that (though I think he and the Sabres would be better off w/ getting a fresh start somewhere else).

 

I still rue them not re-signing Dominic Moore as having him in the mix would have been nice. Then the C's could have been Roy, Connolly, Moore, Goose w/ Hecht &/or Adam as the replacement when 1 or more are injured. W/ a really solid D, and an expectation that those would be your C's for just the one season (or even better, just until the trade deadline) I'd be good w/ that.

PS - welcome to 1st Class. ;) Glad to see you're enjoying the ride.

For the record I mentioned Regehr a while ago. He is the exact type of playing I have been hoping for. I look at it more as the rest of you are joining me in 1st Class, being one the few that constantly stated that this team needed to get a lot tougher. Looks like the Sabres felt the same way. So, it is I who say welcome to you and others.

[Taro T]

Al can be a useful player. PP Point shot, Shootout, ......etc.

 

Sather signed a dumb contract with him....but getting a 2nd round pick to take that contract isn't a problem...

 

My bet is that he moves between Rochester and Buffalo.

 

If he get claimed on re-entry.....that's not such a problem either.

As an injury replacement, he'll do fine. He MIGHT even show a bit of fire coming back up. (Though I wouldn't want to have any money on it.)

 

And IF he gets claimed on re-entry, so what? It'll give a different kid a chance to play a few games on the big club; it'll only cost ~$0.5-1MM against the cap as it won't happen in October; and IIRC it'll force whoever claims him to keep him on their roster the whole year or the Sabres can get him back if they wanted him when the other team tries to send him back down. (Basically, whatever happens when pulling him back up is a win.)

[X. Benedict]

As an injury replacement, he'll do fine. He MIGHT even show a bit of fire coming back up. (Though I wouldn't want to have any money on it.)

 

And IF he gets claimed on re-entry, so what? It'll give a different kid a chance to play a few games on the big club; it'll only cost ~$0.5-1MM against the cap as it won't happen in October; and IIRC it'll force whoever claims him to keep him on their roster the whole year or the Sabres can get him back if they wanted him when the other team tries to send him back down. (Basically, whatever happens when pulling him back up is a win.)

Nicely put. And I love having that 2nd round pick for next year.

[SwampD]

But does the organization let that sort of thing slide. They have built Gaustad into one of the faces of the franchise despite his lack of skills. I suppose I could ask him the next time I see him.

Would that be right before you beat him up?

[Bmwolf21]

I'm ok sending him down, my concern is only on the way back up. It's not the cash, clearly that's not an issue anymore. The problem is that we'd eat a $1.5M effective cap hit for nothing. This is not worth the risk. Kassian and Foligno get the call before kotalik. One possibility is that pommers injury keeps him out till say, thanksgiving. If that's the case, ales goes down for good at the end of november to make room for pominvilles cap space when he comes off LTIR. I do believe kotalik is an attractive specialist at $1.5M to a team with a struggling power play, and I don't want to just give away more than a mil in cap space.

 

To summarize, down = ok, up = risky.

Fair enough. I freely admit I am biased; Ales has been one of my favorite whipping boys for some time. I am fine with stashing him in Ra-cha-cha and letting him play out his ridiculous contract.

 

Al can be a useful player. PP Point shot, Shootout, ......etc.

 

Sather signed a dumb contract with him....but getting a 2nd round pick to take that contract isn't a problem...

 

My bet is that he moves between Rochester and Buffalo.

 

If he get claimed on re-entry.....that's not such a problem either.

 

 

As an injury replacement, he'll do fine. He MIGHT even show a bit of fire coming back up. (Though I wouldn't want to have any money on it.)

 

And IF he gets claimed on re-entry, so what? It'll give a different kid a chance to play a few games on the big club; it'll only cost ~$0.5-1MM against the cap as it won't happen in October; and IIRC it'll force whoever claims him to keep him on their roster the whole year or the Sabres can get him back if they wanted him when the other team tries to send him back down. (Basically, whatever happens when pulling him back up is a win.)

Thank you both.