All time record when down 2 games to 1

[SabresGameNight]

After 3 games of a best of 5 or 7 series when the Sabres trail 2-1, their all time record is 0-15. That is correct, they've never come back from down 2-1.

 

The following are the series in which they trailed 2-1 after 3:

'75 final - Loss in 6 to Philly

'78 quarter - Loss in 5 to Philly

'82 div semi - Loss in 5 to Boston

'85 div semi - Loss in 5 to Quebec

'88 div semi - Loss in 6 to Boston

'89 div semi - Loss in 5 to Boston

'90 div semi - Loss in 6 to Montreal

'91 div semi - Loss in 6 to Montreal

'92 div semi - Loss in 7 to Boston

'94 quarter - Loss in 7 to Devils

'95 quarter - Loss in 5 to Philly

'98 conf final - Loss in 6 to Washington

'99 final - Loss in 6 to Dallas

'01 semi - Loss in 7 to Pittsburgh

'10 quarter - Loss in 6 to Boston

'11 quarter - ?????

 

:censored: Discuss....

[Kristian]

Not much to say other than, HOLY COW THAT'S A PISS-POOR RECORD!! :ph34r:

[darksabre]

NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS.

[2ForTripping]

Hasn't the game 1 winner of Flyer vs Sabres series gone on to win the series?

[Figster]

Hasn't the game 1 winner of Flyer vs Sabres series gone on to win the series?

 

 

100% of the time(8 out of 8)

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Of course, WGR has been harping on that the past two days.

 

You can always consider that at 15 straight, the odds are good that stat won't hold up the 16th time around.

[bills_fan_in_raleigh]

but we have NEVER lost a series to Philly when we went up 1 - 0. Hope the 0 for record is the one to fall

[Figster]

Of course, WGR has been harping on that the past two days.

 

You can always consider that at 15 straight, the odds are good that stat won't hold up the 16th time around.

Good point

[Robviously]

NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS.

My favorite movie ever.

[Braedon]

NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS.

 

Nice reference

 

 

I like Brian Fantana's statistics better.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLq2-uZd5LY

[Buffalo Wings]

After 3 games of a best of 5 or 7 series when the Sabres trail 2-1, their all time record is 0-15. That is correct, they've never come back from down 2-1.

That just means they're due.

[SabresGameNight]

That just means they're due.

 

I hope you're right. Way over due is more like it.

[carpandean]

You can always consider that at 15 straight, the odds are good that stat won't hold up the 16th time around.

If the games can be considered independent trials (different teams, different times, so it's doubtful that the result of one influences the outcome of another), then the odds are exactly the same as they would be if they had won half or even all of them. If you ever manage to flip a coin and get heads 15 times straight, it's still 50/50 that the 16th one is a head. 16 straight is very unlikely; 16 straight given you've had 15 straight is not.

 

If teams are evenly matched and you ignore momentum, home ice, etc., then the team down 2-1 would win 31% of the time. It's safe to assume that more often than not, the better team is the one that goes up by 2-1 and it doesn't take much of an edge to tip those odds (for example, at 60/40 win odds, if the better team is up 2-1, then they'd win 82% of the time.)

[Peter]

From the looks of it, we are due.

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If the games can be considered independent trials (different teams, different times, so it's doubtful that the result of one influences the outcome of another), then the odds are exactly the same as they would be if they had won half or even all of them. If you ever manage to flip a coin and get heads 15 times straight, it's still 50/50 that the 16th one is a head. 16 straight is very unlikely; 16 straight given you've had 15 straight is not.

 

 

I understand statistics and probability; however theory, as far as I know, has never been able to reconcile statements like "16 (or insert any number higher than 5) straight is very unlikely".

 

The truth is that 15 straight of any random-outcome event is unlikely, and 16 straight is even more unlikely, regardless of whether the math can reconcile that truth or not.

 

Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word "odds" - I know how some people are literalists when it comes to these things.

[SabresMojo]

Every record/stat is made to be broken...lets make the 2-1 go bye bye.

[ROC Sabres]

NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS.

As long as you keep shooting first.

[Assquatch]

If the games can be considered independent trials (different teams, different times, so it's doubtful that the result of one influences the outcome of another), then the odds are exactly the same as they would be if they had won half or even all of them. If you ever manage to flip a coin and get heads 15 times straight, it's still 50/50 that the 16th one is a head. 16 straight is very unlikely; 16 straight given you've had 15 straight is not.

 

If teams are evenly matched and you ignore momentum, home ice, etc., then the team down 2-1 would win 31% of the time. It's safe to assume that more often than not, the better team is the one that goes up by 2-1 and it doesn't take much of an edge to tip those odds (for example, at 60/40 win odds, if the better team is up 2-1, then they'd win 82% of the time.)

 

 

From the looks of it, we are due.

 

[Miss_The_Amerks]

After 3 games of a best of 5 or 7 series when the Sabres trail 2-1, their all time record is 0-15. That is correct, they've never come back from down 2-1.

"NHL Playoffs: History will be made."

[SabresGameNight]

"NHL Playoffs: History will be made."

 

:clapping: Nice, I like that one. All I think of is the May Day spot when I see one of those history will be made commercials.

[dEnnis the Menace]

"NHL Playoffs: History will be made."

 

+1 'Atta Boy! That's the spirit! We WILL come back! My beard isn't even CLOSE to it's full potential!!!

[Taro T]

And prior to Plante, they'd never won a game 7.

[wjag]

If the games can be considered independent trials (different teams, different times, so it's doubtful that the result of one influences the outcome of another), then the odds are exactly the same as they would be if they had won half or even all of them. If you ever manage to flip a coin and get heads 15 times straight, it's still 50/50 that the 16th one is a head. 16 straight is very unlikely; 16 straight given you've had 15 straight is not.

 

If teams are evenly matched and you ignore momentum, home ice, etc., then the team down 2-1 would win 31% of the time. It's safe to assume that more often than not, the better team is the one that goes up by 2-1 and it doesn't take much of an edge to tip those odds (for example, at 60/40 win odds, if the better team is up 2-1, then they'd win 82% of the time.)

 

Probably true unless you have the Bills playing the Patriots. :bag:

[shrader]

And prior to Plante, they'd never won a game 7.

 

And 2-1 is now meaningless. They don't have to come back from that spot anymore.

[SDS]

The truth is that 15 straight of any random-outcome event is unlikely, and 16 straight is even more unlikely, regardless of whether the math can reconcile that truth or not.

 

Not when you are spotted the 15...