SwampD Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Having lived in the actual City of Buffalo for quite some time, there's definitely lots of excitement here. Favorite True Buffalonian™ past-times are: -Watching mediocre sports teams and the players that try to enjoy their time here -Deciphering graffiti -Avoiding getting shot and/or mugged in most parts of the city -Going to the zoo -Eating chicken wings -Getting drunk -Whining about the weather -Whining about Albany and/or NYC -Attempting to defend our dying city's image as the "Armpit of America" from holier-than-though out-of-towners everywhere in spite of all of the above :lol: Other than the complaining about the weather thing this sounds about right. Most of what I think of when I think of "Buffalo" isn't in the actual city limit's of Buffalo, but the WNY region as a whole. With that said, I really can't think of many things I'd rather be doing than getting drunk and eating wings in Buffalo.
Icedus Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I'll give you $1000 if you move elsewhere and promise to stay away from Buffalo and from this board. Anyone else want to chip in? Hell yeah, I'll take it. I assume you have a PayPal account? :D I'll match you. I moved to Northern Virginia 2 years ago, and not a day goes by that I don't miss being in Buffalo. Once my wife's project is finished in 3 years or so we'll likely be moving back... and not a moment too soon. Is that the city proper, or one of the generally nice suburbs of Buffalo? If it's the former, you should have no problem, since property values are quite low and lots of people have been moving out of here when they get the chance. Make sure you invest in a nice home security system. :) And Dude, I'm sorry...but you are definitely not a TRUE BUFFALONIAN. I guess being born and raised, and living in the city and paying taxes doesn't qualify me for that title? :unsure: That was more of a joke anyway, since it seems lots of people who like to talk about how great "Buffalo" is are actually from nicer places nearby like Amherst or Clarence and most likely wouldn't want to live in Buffalo itself if given the choice. Most of what I think of when I think of "Buffalo" isn't in the actual city limit's of Buffalo, but the WNY region as a whole. Spot-on.
Eleven Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Hell yeah, I'll take it. I assume you have a PayPal account? :D Is that the city proper, or one of the generally nice suburbs of Buffalo? If it's the former, you should have no problem, since property values are quite low and lots of people have been moving out of here when they get the chance. Make sure you invest in a nice home security system. :) I guess being born and raised, and living in the city and paying taxes doesn't qualify me for that title? :unsure: That was more of a joke anyway, since it seems lots of people who like to talk about how great "Buffalo" is are actually from nicer places nearby like Amherst or Clarence and most likely wouldn't want to live in Buffalo itself if given the choice. Spot-on. I live in the city. You do have the chance to move out, and in fact, two people are willing to assist you. I mean out of Western New York. Gone. I can't prevent people like you from living here, but I can offer you incentive to permanently leave, and that's what Punch and I are doing. So we're up to $2K now, and if that's enough, I'll start working up a contract. Let me know.
afan Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I wonder what the heck he wants to do? He's a pro athlete in town for a game for crying out loud! Does he want to go out and get all schwasted before the game? Jeez...I have travelled all over this country to every kind of city. You can sit in your hotel in Davenport Iowa, Buffalo NY, or Chicago IL, and bi$%h about nothing to do. You are only limited by your mind, and let's face it, pro athletes aren't rocket scientists, for the most part. So he's bored, big deal. Read the paper, watch a movie, go for a swim in the hotel pool. Go somewhere "happenin'" on your vacation in July. Sheesh. I have never been to Buffalo, so I can't compare where a team stays there to where they stay here, but... Cory Stillman was on the "Canes Corner" program last week (a 1 hour interview live show from a restaurant) and talked about his opinions of Raleigh prior to signing here (in '05) and then after having played/lived here. Anyway, prior to his signing, visiting teams stayed at an Embassy Suites (in Cary) that was *right* off I-40. The Airport is about 2 exits down I40 and the arena is probably 2 exits the other direction. He said the only thing he knew about Raleigh was pine trees. I'm sure it was about a pretty boring a place to be for 24 hours unless they took a cab into Raleigh to dine. The visiting teams now stay at new Renaissance hotel that's situated in an upscale dining/shopping walking outdoor mall with everything from very nice Dining to Five Guys. Nice shopping (expensive boutiques, an REI, but also a Target underneath with the parking, etc.) as well as a movie theater. A ton of "crap" to choose from all a few steps away. It's also much closer to the Glenwood South/Downtown area which offers lots of dining/clubs. You're still sitting in a hotel in Raleigh, but the new location is probably much easier for someone who wants to step out to get Starbucks or shop for the wife, lol. I doubt there's much to do anywhere on a Monday night, but depending on where teams stay, it can seem more "boring" than others.
Icedus Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I live in the city. You do have the chance to move out, and in fact, two people are willing to assist you. I mean out of Western New York. Gone. I can't prevent people like you from living here, but I can offer you incentive to permanently leave, and that's what Punch and I are doing. So we're up to $2K now, and if that's enough, I'll start working up a contract. Let me know. Wow, you're serious? Sadly, $2k would not be enough for me to move myself and my family to a better area. If that was all it took, I would have definitely left by now. We're working on it, though, and would love your generous assistance when such a thing becomes financially viable. We'll have to stay in touch. :D Also, I should clarify that my problem was never with, as you put it, "Western New York", but with Buffalo. Like, the City of Buffalo, which is a dying city that people are putting quite a bit of effort in to leave and which also is a definite contributing factor (among other things) to premium free-agents not wanting to sign with the Sabres.
Taro T Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I have never been to Buffalo, so I can't compare where a team stays there to where they stay here, but... Cory Stillman was on the "Canes Corner" program last week (a 1 hour interview live show from a restaurant) and talked about his opinions of Raleigh prior to signing here (in '05) and then after having played/lived here. Anyway, prior to his signing, visiting teams stayed at an Embassy Suites (in Cary) that was *right* off I-40. The Airport is about 2 exits down I40 and the arena is probably 2 exits the other direction. He said the only thing he knew about Raleigh was pine trees. I'm sure it was about a pretty boring a place to be for 24 hours unless they took a cab into Raleigh to dine. The visiting teams now stay at new Renaissance hotel that's situated in an upscale dining/shopping walking outdoor mall with everything from very nice Dining to Five Guys. Nice shopping (expensive boutiques, an REI, but also a Target underneath with the parking, etc.) as well as a movie theater. A ton of "crap" to choose from all a few steps away. It's also much closer to the Glenwood South/Downtown area which offers lots of dining/clubs. You're still sitting in a hotel in Raleigh, but the new location is probably much easier for someone who wants to step out to get Starbucks or shop for the wife, lol. I doubt there's much to do anywhere on a Monday night, but depending on where teams stay, it can seem more "boring" than others. The drive from the airport to downtown is nothing to write home about either. It's a pretty straight shot 20 minutes down the Kensington to the city proper. No tall buildings (unless you count ECMC) and no terrain changes (unless you count the underpass where the Scajaquada splits off). Just a lot of gray. It isn't much wonder visiting players don't think much of Buffalo based on the 24-48 hours they spend there each year.
Stoner Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 This is a nice little practice run for what Ovechkin will say before Game 3.
Eleven Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Wow, you're serious? Sadly, $2k would not be enough for me to move myself and my family to a better area. If that was all it took, I would have definitely left by now. We're working on it, though, and would love your generous assistance when such a thing becomes financially viable. We'll have to stay in touch. :D Also, I should clarify that my problem was never with, as you put it, "Western New York", but with Buffalo. Like, the City of Buffalo, which is a dying city that people are putting quite a bit of effort in to leave and which also is a definite contributing factor (among other things) to premium free-agents not wanting to sign with the Sabres. I am very serious. There are a number of us who are putting quite a bit of effort not to leave (some of us moved here or returned from other places), but to enhance this city and the area. People like you are thwarting our efforts to make the Buffalo area a better place, and the really sick thing is, you're doing it from within the community. I would love it if you left. So, I'll again open it to others to donate to the cause. So far, we have $2K raised.
JoDo Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I have to laugh at how sensitive some of you are. He really didn't say anything too bad. I grew up in Hamburg and now live outside Spokane WA. Similar cities in that they are the "little sister" to bigger metros on the other side of the state. Buffalo/NYC Spokane/Seattle. I can't stand the bigger cities when I go to them. I'd move back to Buffalo in a heartbeat if my wife wanted to and the only reason she wouldn't is the family here and the humid summers there. Although, what do I know? I don't understand following "celebrity twitters" either.
Punch Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Is that the city proper, or one of the generally nice suburbs of Buffalo? If it's the former, you should have no problem, since property values are quite low and lots of people have been moving out of here when they get the chance. Make sure you invest in a nice home security system. :) Parkside Ave near the Zoo. Are you saying there is not one desirable and/or safe area of the City in which to live? Clearly, Buffalo is not perfect, and no one is suggesting otherwise. You're coming across as a bit of a troll, no?
bleedblueandgold Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Marc Andre Bergeron--- Who hyphens their first and middle name anyways?? Usually the short guys have the big mouths anyways...look at his bio and stats for the year---shouldn't be talkin too much with those numbers..... HEIGHT: 5' 9" WEIGHT: 198 Shoots: Left BIRTHDATE: Oct 13, 1980 (AGE 30) BIRTHPLACE: Trois-rivieres, QC, Canada GP-20 G-2 A-5 -10 PIM-6
Sabre Dance Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Yea, but didn't ga ga have a show there last month?? :D (sorry, couldn't resist) She did, and it was great... Well, as I work downtown I can say that there aren't a whole lot of obvious places to go/things to do if you are unfamiliar with the city and are just out walking around. The Main Place Mall is kind of scary, the Elmwood/Allentown area is probably a little too far away, there are no department stores, "real" malls, etc.,etc. I imagine these guys would want to people-watch (i.e. look at women), whether it be at a Starbucks, Borders, Macy's or whatever. That hockey season runs during the coldest, crappiest times of the year in this area doesn't help, either... Yes, having CanalSide up and running would be helpful. Meanwhile, Marc-Andre....suck it up. Buffalo IS the City of No Illusions....
Icedus Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I am very serious. There are a number of us who are putting quite a bit of effort not to leave (some of us moved here or returned from other places), but to enhance this city and the area. People like you are thwarting our efforts to make the Buffalo area a better place, and the really sick thing is, you're doing it from within the community. I would love it if you left. I commend your efforts, as it'd be great if this city turned itself around somehow. Sadly, local politics, general negative perception, increasing poverty rates, and a declining population do much more to hinder that than me voicing my opinions on the internet... Parkside Ave near the Zoo. Are you saying there is not one desirable and/or safe area of the City in which to live? Clearly, Buffalo is not perfect, and no one is suggesting otherwise. You're coming across as a bit of a troll, no? That's the only decent place left in the city, imo, and is most definitely as good as Buffalo gets. It's a pretty okay place to live, if you have the money. I personally don't consider it worth the cost of living when you factor in all the surrounding areas. If you have that kind of cash, you will most likely feel out of sorts and maybe even unsafe in this city whenever you're not in your own neighborhood. Overall, you'd be better off spending that money on a nice home in Amherst. Also, I'm really not trying to troll, I'm just voicing my opinion on the city in which my favorite sports team happens to play. This is a Buffalo Sabres message board after all, not a message board revolving around Buffalo, NY. Marc Andre Bergeron--- Who hyphens their first and middle name anyways?? Usually the short guys have the big mouths anyways...look at his bio and stats for the year---shouldn't be talkin too much with those numbers..... I consider the comments from Emerson Etem at the WJC to be much more biting and blatant, for what it's worth. An unfortunate glimpse into how young talent would likely feel about playing here. The best we can hope for is our new management turning things around and attracting good players in spite of the city they'll be playing in, similar to Detroit.
Punch Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 That's the only decent place left in the city, imo, and is most definitely as good as Buffalo gets. It's a pretty okay place to live, if you have the money. I personally don't consider it worth the cost of living when you factor in all the surrounding areas. If you have that kind of cash, you will most likely feel out of sorts and maybe even unsafe in this city whenever you're not in your own neighborhood. Overall, you'd be better off spending that money on a nice home in Amherst. Also, I'm really not trying to troll, I'm just voicing my opinion on the city in which my favorite sports team happens to play. This is a Buffalo Sabres message board after all, not a message board revolving around Buffalo, NY. Fair enough. However, your earlier post was obviously highly inflammatory, regardless of how common and reasonable this one appears (although I don't particularly agree with your assessment, but that's fine; we don't all need to agree). The fact you appear to be picking a fight on a sore subject in your first handful of posts, which had nothing to do with hockey, comes across as "trollish". That's just my opinion, though.
Icedus Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Your earlier post was obviously highly inflammatory, regardless of how common and reasonable this one appears (although I don't particularly agree with your assessment, but that's fine; we don't all need to agree). The fact you appear to be picking a fight on a sore subject in your first handful of posts, which had nothing to do with hockey, comes across as "trollish". That's just my opinion, though. Yeah, I guess that's understandable, it probably does look pretty suspect. I lurk far more often than I post. Definitely no hard feelings meant by me by joining in on this particular conversation.
Stoner Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Yeah, I guess that's understandable, it probably does look pretty suspect. I lurk far more often than I post. Definitely no hard feelings meant by me by joining in on this particular conversation. You have learned a good lesson, grasshopper. Satire is dangerous on SabreSpace. But, hey, about this 2k. Why not use it to encourage someone to move to Buffalo? Can I have it when I decide to move up there?
Icedus Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 But, hey, about this 2k. Why not use it to encourage someone to move to Buffalo? Can I have it when I decide to move up there? GTFO I already have dibs on that money :lol:
nfreeman Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I am very serious. There are a number of us who are putting quite a bit of effort not to leave (some of us moved here or returned from other places), but to enhance this city and the area. People like you are thwarting our efforts to make the Buffalo area a better place, and the really sick thing is, you're doing it from within the community. I would love it if you left. So, I'll again open it to others to donate to the cause. So far, we have $2K raised. 11, I wholeheartedly respect your efforts to stay and improve the city, as well as your passion in doing so. It's of course totally up to you, but I'd probably lean away from encouraging people to GTFO if they're not with the program. People can change their minds over time and often do when circumstances improve. In the meantime, the city needs every employed taxpayer it can hold onto.
Wyldnwoody44 Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I grew up in springville and now have an apartment on porter ave, mainly to be closer to school. I live on the lower west side and it may not be the best area around, but I find plenty to do...walks down elmwood up to delaware park, allentown district, head up to the breakwall...I miss the southtowns, but wny has a LOT of hidden gems...especially near the southern tier. We have all 4 seasons too, which some people enjoy, not to mention very low probability of a natural disaster....so screw that french poodle bergeron...someone should take him to cathode and cheer him up
LabattBlue Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Buffalo is what it is in terms of jobs...government, colleges and healthcare. It won't be much different 10 years from now; it won't be that much different 20 years from now. WNY went from being a thriving community full of blue collar jobs(up until 1970 or so) to a community consisting of primarily white collar jobs, but with a corresponding drop in jobs equal to the population loss over the last 3 to 4 decades.
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 There are a number of us who are putting quite a bit of effort...to enhance this city and the area. Interesting. If this is true, please tell us about the taxes that you have lowered, the politicians that you have voted out of office, and the regulations that you have eliminated to make Buffalo more "business friendly".
X. Benedict Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 You have learned a good lesson, grasshopper. Satire is dangerous on SabreSpace. Aside: I always thought that Kwan Chang Cane a pacifist Shoalin monk wandering around the Wild West inadvertently making gunfighters angry was pretty funny in itself.
IKnowPhysics Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Interesting. If this is true, please tell us about the taxes that you have lowered, the politicians that you have voted out of office, and the regulations that you have eliminated to make Buffalo more "business friendly". Ahh, don't ###### on him too hard. You know how ###### up politics and economy are in WNY, so give him a little credit for trying to do what our previous generation didn't have the courage to do. I applaud his efforts, and I look forward to moving back to Buffalo and finding it in better condition than when I had to leave it. When I get back, I'll help too. I can't wait to resurrect this town.
Eleven Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Interesting. If this is true, please tell us about the taxes that you have lowered, the politicians that you have voted out of office, and the regulations that you have eliminated to make Buffalo more "business friendly". That's not the only way to help. I will say this: In January, I saved a small business from extinction. 40 jobs. Right now, I'm helping a considerably larger local business avoid a corporate raid from out-of-state. I work with local companies all the time, usually against out-of-town competition. Where a regulation is the enemy, I help the company work around it. Where taxes are the issue, I know the right people to put a company in touch with, and in one instance, recently, I did save a (very) small company from the NYS taxman. I moved back here to do this. I also get paid to do it and I love it. And even that's not the only way to help. There are plenty of volunteer opportunities to enhance the area, and I take advantage of those, sometimes, too. (But I did contribute heavily to the cause of getting rid of Antoine Thompson, if you really need to know about a politician.) Hope that's enough to meet your challenge.
korab rules Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 That's not the only way to help. I will say this: In January, I saved a small business from extinction. 40 jobs. Right now, I'm helping a considerably larger local business avoid a corporate raid from out-of-state. I work with local companies all the time, usually against out-of-town competition. Where a regulation is the enemy, I help the company work around it. Where taxes are the issue, I know the right people to put a company in touch with, and in one instance, recently, I did save a (very) small company from the NYS taxman. I moved back here to do this. I also get paid to do it and I love it. And even that's not the only way to help. There are plenty of volunteer opportunities to enhance the area, and I take advantage of those, sometimes, too. (But I did contribute heavily to the cause of getting rid of Antoine Thompson, if you really need to know about a politician.) Hope that's enough to meet your challenge. Too bad I can't do that rep thing while viewing from my phone. Good work.
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