Onceagain Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/04/03/1100857/take-back-whats-ours-canes-fans.html what do you think about this?
Stoner Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 I think based on the reaction, apparently, of a couple thousand fans, there's something to the story. It's not a handful of people overreacting. Reasonable STHs are saying they just don't want to deal with it. Sometimes, where there's smoke, there's fire.
sabres1970 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 Give me a break. They're just upset that we take hockey much more seriously than them and are looking for an excuse why there are always so many sabres fans there.
LGR4GM Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 if I was a season ticket holder for the sabres I would go especially when the other fans were rowdy just to represent my town my building... but I am young and the ppl downstairs suck so I am just in a feisty mood.
dumb_dumb88 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 Meh, So alot of Buffalo ex-pats moved to the area for jobs and support the team they grew up with, no surprise there. As for some Sabres fans acting out beyond what is tolerated or considered the exceptable, well, I understand the areas Canes' fans being upset and those individuals give Buffalo sports fans in general a black mark. Not something many of us approve of and I am sure many of us completely understand the sentiments, it's especially bad on the comments about not wanting to subject their children to that type of atmosphere. That bothers me and gives the overall sport a blackeye in my opinion. But I believe the larger story line here is that the Sabres have a second home arena in Carolina.... :thumbsup: Love it.
bunomatic Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 Give me a break. They're just upset that we take hockey much more seriously than them and are looking for an excuse why there are always so many sabres fans there. Funny but these comments by Canes fans about people from Buffalo sound very similar to the comments by Buffalo people about people from Ontario and other parts north of the border. Take that article and insert world junior championship and it looks oddly familiar. Maybe we're not that different after all. Maybe boorish behaviour happens everywhere and is perpetrated by everyone? Before I'm jumped on I should add that this isn't how Myself or anyone I know acts at sport events, :nana:
SHAAAUGHT!!! Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 Yeah, I agree with the posters here. I think it has to do with the Southern culture more than anything. They tend to get a little whiny when things don't go there way (see slavery and secession).
Ohiofan Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 Well, it's one thing to be a fan and cheer loudly and proudly for your team...and quite another to throw things and drop F bombs. We went to a Blue Jackets/Buffalo game last year here in Ohio and there were A LOT of Sabre fans there. Most were rowdy and having fun, generally harmless. But, there were a few who were just general A$$holes, and frankly, they embarassed me. But the home fans sitting around us were jerks too, really. We won a free Blue Jackets t-shirt, and when my kid turned around to offer it to the Jacket fans sitting behind us, a lady ripped it out of my kids hands and didn't even say Thank You. I've been to Toronto when the Sabres play there. NASTY. When they were winning it was all fun and games, and everyone was very nice. Then the Sabres started winning (Valentines Day a few years ago, we won...something like 7-4) and the Leaf fans got nasty. Throwing stuff at us and screaming at us. There was even a legless pan-handler outside the arena and people were putting coins in his hat. When I approached him he snarled, "Back off Sabre Bi*&h. Seriously. When you attend a sporting event, anything can happen. Everyone is passionate, some people are jerks. A sporting arena is not the library during story time. Deal with it. Let the canes fans stay home.
Skibum Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 'Canes fans are cowards. Buffalo fans enter their arena and smell weakness. Yes, it's unfortunate that drunk Sabres fans make fools of themselves on the road, but it's kind of sad that Carolina fans can't keep this kind of stuff in check in their own arena. Could you see this kind of thing being perpetrated by a minority of out of town fans at HSBC? Could you imagine sitting out a big home game because you were afraid you might hear a drunken F-bomb? Drunken fan behavior is part of the hockey experience. Suck it up. BTW, did a porn star write this article? Luke DeCock? Seriously?
dumb_dumb88 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 'Canes fans are cowards. Buffalo fans enter their arena and smell weakness. Yes, it's unfortunate that drunk Sabres fans make fools of themselves on the road, but it's kind of sad that Carolina fans can't keep this kind of stuff in check in their own arena. Could you see this kind of thing being perpetrated by a minority of out of town fans at HSBC? Could you imagine sitting out a big home game because you were afraid you might hear a drunken F-bomb? Drunken fan behavior is part of the hockey experience. Suck it up. BTW, did a porn star write this article? Luke DeCock? Seriously? Sorry man, but my wife and I are laughing till we cry on this comment. :thumbsup:
nucci Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 'Canes fans are cowards. Buffalo fans enter their arena and smell weakness. Yes, it's unfortunate that drunk Sabres fans make fools of themselves on the road, but it's kind of sad that Carolina fans can't keep this kind of stuff in check in their own arena. Could you see this kind of thing being perpetrated by a minority of out of town fans at HSBC? Could you imagine sitting out a big home game because you were afraid you might hear a drunken F-bomb? Drunken fan behavior is part of the hockey experience. Suck it up. BTW, did a porn star write this article? Luke DeCock? Seriously? Nothing wrong with being loud and supporting but your team but I disagree with the drunken part. If you can't handle your alcohol , don't drink and don't act like an ass.
Bmwolf21 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 Meh, So alot of Buffalo ex-pats moved to the area for jobs and support the team they grew up with, no surprise there. As for some Sabres fans acting out beyond what is tolerated or considered the exceptable, well, I understand the areas Canes' fans being upset and those individuals give Buffalo sports fans in general a black mark. Not something many of us approve of and I am sure many of us completely understand the sentiments, it's especially bad on the comments about not wanting to subject their children to that type of atmosphere. That bothers me and gives the overall sport a blackeye in my opinion. But I believe the larger story line here is that the Sabres have a second home arena in Carolina.... :thumbsup: Love it. Same here. Love it. Well, it's one thing to be a fan and cheer loudly and proudly for your team...and quite another to throw things and drop F bombs. We went to a Blue Jackets/Buffalo game last year here in Ohio and there were A LOT of Sabre fans there. Most were rowdy and having fun, generally harmless. But, there were a few who were just general A$$holes, and frankly, they embarassed me. But the home fans sitting around us were jerks too, really. We won a free Blue Jackets t-shirt, and when my kid turned around to offer it to the Jacket fans sitting behind us, a lady ripped it out of my kids hands and didn't even say Thank You. I've been to Toronto when the Sabres play there. NASTY. When they were winning it was all fun and games, and everyone was very nice. Then the Sabres started winning (Valentines Day a few years ago, we won...something like 7-4) and the Leaf fans got nasty. Throwing stuff at us and screaming at us. There was even a legless pan-handler outside the arena and people were putting coins in his hat. When I approached him he snarled, "Back off Sabre Bi*&h. Seriously. When you attend a sporting event, anything can happen. Everyone is passionate, some people are jerks. A sporting arena is not the library during story time. Deal with it. Let the canes fans stay home. Good post. When we first got to Ohio we went to a Sabres-Blue Jackets game and we saw the same thing - most Sabres fans were loud and enthusiastic, but most were respectful. There were some ######, and that embarrassed me. We had a couple nice conversations with Jackets fans and everyone said the same thing - all fanbases have elements that we'd rather not associate ourselves with. Some fanbases just have larger groups of jackasses (see Toronto). We went to Game 5 of the ECF, and despite all their cries about the boorish, marauding Sabres fans (they play the victim quite well) the Canes fans gave as well as they got. When the Canes scored their first goal a classy gentleman, who was seated a few rows in front of us with what I assume was his family (wife and two young daughters) turned around and gave our section the old double-barreled salute. After the Canes won people were throwing things at me and my wife in the stairwells. Bottom line is the Canes fans were embarrassed that the Sabres fans showed up in force and enthusiastic (and able to walk up and buy ECF tickets just hours before game time) and reacted as poorly as possible, IMO, which fanned the flames of the fanbase rivalry. 'Canes fans are cowards. Buffalo fans enter their arena and smell weakness. Yes, it's unfortunate that drunk Sabres fans make fools of themselves on the road, but it's kind of sad that Carolina fans can't keep this kind of stuff in check in their own arena. Could you see this kind of thing being perpetrated by a minority of out of town fans at HSBC? Could you imagine sitting out a big home game because you were afraid you might hear a drunken F-bomb? Drunken fan behavior is part of the hockey experience. Suck it up. BTW, did a porn star write this article? Luke DeCock? Seriously? Another (mostly) good post. Nothing wrong with being loud and supporting but your team but I disagree with the drunken part. If you can't handle your alcohol , don't drink and don't act like an ass. Bingo.
Taro T Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 When you have no natural rivalries for your fan base to relish, you need to manufature 1 or 2. From what I've read here, it looks like Canes management and their professional cheerleaders (Boss, da plaane, da plaane; oops, I meant Luuuke, DeCock, DeCock) do what they can to fan this rivalry and the Sabres' fans tend to do enough to let the legend continue. EDIT: If they are in fact getting fewer fans attending their 'rivalry' games than their ordinary games; that's pretty funny. I'm a little surprised that 5 years later this legend still exists. But hey, for those that are heading to the game, have fun, get a good buzz on but don't get sloppy drunk, be loud & proud, and make sure the babies are thoroughly cooked - you never know what you can catch from baby tar tar. :beer:
SwampD Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 I bet some good will could be created if some "good" Sabres fans told the "bad" Sabres fans to settle down,.. not that I really give a ###### what Canes fans think.
SwampD Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 'Canes fans are cowards. Buffalo fans enter their arena and smell weakness. Yes, it's unfortunate that drunk Sabres fans make fools of themselves on the road, but it's kind of sad that Carolina fans can't keep this kind of stuff in check in their own arena. Could you see this kind of thing being perpetrated by a minority of out of town fans at HSBC? Could you imagine sitting out a big home game because you were afraid you might hear a drunken F-bomb? Drunken fan behavior is part of the hockey experience. Suck it up. BTW, did a porn star write this article? Luke DeCock? Seriously? Isn't that French for Luke TheCock?
drnkirishone Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 yet the rednecks down there can go to a Nascar race and make huge ###### of themselves. They just pissed that we take hockey as seriously as they take making left turns
Apex Sabres 1 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 yet the rednecks down there can go to a Nascar race and make huge ###### of themselves. They just pissed that we take hockey as seriously as they take making left turns [/quote except most Canes fans I know are relocated northerners and mid-westerners and don't care about NASCAR. To the Canes fans lurking on this tread, you must be embarrassed by the article in the paper. Not going to games because of opposing fans? In your own barn? Supposedly the "loudest arena in the NHL"
X. Benedict Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/04/03/1100857/take-back-whats-ours-canes-fans.html what do you think about this? A pandering article IMO. 2006...eh....I wish I could find the email response I had from deCock after the 2006 game. It was a two way street that day....but the home paper controls the history. All things in context, they get many more arrests and have even had murders in the same NC STATE lot. carry on..
Eleven Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 Funny but these comments by Canes fans about people from Buffalo sound very similar to the comments by Buffalo people about people from Ontario and other parts north of the border. Take that article and insert world junior championship and it looks oddly familiar. Maybe we're not that different after all. Maybe boorish behaviour happens everywhere and is perpetrated by everyone? Before I'm jumped on I should add that this isn't how Myself or anyone I know acts at sport events, :nana: If Sabres fans act anything like Canadians did at the WJC, I'll be really ashamed. I suspect not; I suspect they act like Leaves fans do at Buffalo games, which isn't that terrible.
darksabre Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 I honestly don't care what Sabres fans do at Carolina games. There is not one team anywhere that I hate more than the Canes. And the more their fans hate going to games against us, the more I like it. The more they complain, the more I hate them. That was OUR Stanley Cup and I will NOT let it go.
ROC Sabres Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 I honestly don't care what Sabres fans do at Carolina games. There is not one team anywhere that I hate more than the Canes. And the more their fans hate going to games against us, the more I like it. The more they complain, the more I hate them. That was OUR Stanley Cup and I will NOT let it go. The only thing I can think of that's worse than a Canes fan is the Miami Dolphins fans that are Canadian. Don't care they are fins fans; don't care they are Canadian; put them together and I wanna stab myself in the face with a soldering iron.
SwampD Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 The only thing I can think of that's worse than a Canes fan is the Miami Dolphins fans that are Canadian. Don't care they are fins fans; don't care they are Canadian; put them together and I wanna stab myself in the face with a soldering iron. :lol: I agree and think it's a little unfair to even mention a Canes fan in the same sentence as the Canadian Fins fan. They're not even close.
afan Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 except most Canes fans I know are relocated northerners and mid-westerners and don't care about NASCAR. To the Canes fans lurking on this tread, you must be embarrassed by the article in the paper. Not going to games because of opposing fans? In your own barn? Supposedly the "loudest arena in the NHL" Again - I'll provide the back story. The genesis for this column was at the time of the last Buffalo game at the RBC. Attendance was a bit lower than a normal weeknight (I could attempt to explain the attendance patterns in regard to day of week and which ticket plans the game falls in, but that's overkill and not pertinent). Someone on twitter posed the question to Luke DeCock about if he thought Canes fans "avoided" Buffalo games, so Luke posed the question himself on twitter. Apparently he got enough feedback that he planned to write the column before this last game (he mentioned it at the time). I presume he interviewed a few people who responded via twitter for the quotes that appeared in the column. The Sabres only come to Raleigh twice a year, so despite it being "5 seasons", it's possible some folks have only been to a couple of games since the "legendary" '06 series. The RBC hosts a ton of families and it's not surprising that some people might choose to avoid something they deemed 'unpleasant'....going to hockey games isn't the cheapest of hobbies, lol. In any event, yesterday was a great hockey game and from where I sat pretty tame as far as fan behavior.
frisky Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 Just a reminder also of how many of us have had to move away because things aren't so good at home we've had too go elsewhere. And how things haven't gotten better in time. Thats a sad sidw of the story.
eball Posted April 4, 2011 Report Posted April 4, 2011 A pandering article IMO. 2006...eh....I wish I could find the email response I had from deCock after the 2006 game. It was a two way street that day....but the home paper controls the history. All things in context, they get many more arrests and have even had murders in the same NC STATE lot. carry on.. Well said, X. This whole thing has become an urban legend at this point, self-perpetuated by the "horrified" fans who still can't believe a fan dared utter the f-word during a hockey game. It sucks when a vocal visiting fan base occupies 25% of the seats in your arena...
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