Robviously Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 Sabres Edge reporting Pronger likely out for Game Two. I wouldn't mind them bein right... B-) http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres/ I keep hearing people say Pronger needs to come back ASAP but how good will he actually be when he comes back? If he rushes back from an injury, he may be able to play a game, and play well, but I wouldn't count on him to instantly dominate just because he's Chris Pronger. The bad news is that the Flyers are good enough to beat us even without Chris Pronger. I'm thrilled with the win but we were hanging on for dear life for a lot of that game. Getting Leopold or Sekera back ASAP will really help.
LabattBlue Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 Interesting. So if Reggie and Leopold are both healthy by, say, game 3, is it: Myers-Butler Reggie-Weber Leopold-Gragnani ?? It has to be said that neither Reggie nor Leopold will clear the crease or generally hit like Monty and Morrisonn. I'm not sure I want to subtract that much physicality in favor of that much finesse. Maybe Gragnani sits and Monty plays with Leopold? I'm repeating myself, but for some reason many posters fall in love with the rookie with no experience. First it was Byron, then Mancari, now Gragnani. IT'S THE PLAYOFFS! I'll take Montador and Morrisonn any day over Gragnani. Everyone is quick to criticize Montador, but Myers gives the puck away just as much if not more. I don't see anyone calling for Myers to sit. Unless they really start shitting the bed, I'll continue to take the size and physical play of M&M.
Robviously Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I love what I've seen from MAG, and I am not happy with what I saw from Montador last night, but that Leopold-Montador pairing worked all year and it would be a shame not to try it again. Definitely feels like MAG is an NHL player now (and felt that way even before the goal last night). I assume he'll be on our opening night roster in October.
BuffaTB Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I'm repeating myself, but for some reason many posters fall in love with the rookie with no experience. First it was Byron, then Mancari, now Gragnani. IT'S THE PLAYOFFS! I'll take Montador and Morrisonn any day over Gragnani. Everyone is quick to criticize Montador, but Myers gives the puck away just as much if not more. I don't see anyone calling for Myers to sit. Unless they really start shitting the bed, I'll continue to take the size and physical play of M&M. Montador has been a turnover and penalty machine, while grags has made far less mistakes (and taken lees dumb penalties) and oh wait, he set up our ONLY goal. I wholeheartedly disagree.
That Aud Smell Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 Unless they really start shitting the bed, I'll continue to take the size and physical play of M&M. ding-######!
spndnchz Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I'm repeating myself, but for some reason many posters fall in love with the rookie with no experience. First it was Byron, then Mancari, now Gragnani. IT'S THE PLAYOFFS! I'll take Montador and Morrisonn any day over Gragnani. Everyone is quick to criticize Montador, but Myers gives the puck away just as much if not more. I don't see anyone calling for Myers to sit. Unless they really start shitting the bed, I'll continue to take the size and physical play of M&M. I'd agree with the physicality part. Grags seems to let Philly get the puck in the corner and then defends the pass. After the shot Morrisonn took late last night I wonder if he's gonna be OK for game 2. Could be "problem" solved.
nfreeman Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 Maybe pair Butler with either Leopold or Gragnani? That would put someone who can hit on on each pair... Maybe just for game two, and then put Monty back in. Well, I think Lindy's pretty happy with Myers-Butler as the top pairing, so I wouldn't expect those 2 to be separated. Also, I don't think Butler is much of a hitter, although he cleared the crease with more of an edge last night than he generally does. I'm repeating myself, but for some reason many posters fall in love with the rookie with no experience. First it was Byron, then Mancari, now Gragnani. IT'S THE PLAYOFFS! I'll take Montador and Morrisonn any day over Gragnani. Everyone is quick to criticize Montador, but Myers gives the puck away just as much if not more. I don't see anyone calling for Myers to sit. Unless they really start shitting the bed, I'll continue to take the size and physical play of M&M. This is a legitimate view, but it's not just many posters here who like Gragnani -- Lindy is really happy with him too. He played almost 20 minutes last night and Lindy said his play was "excellent" in the presser. I think the Sabres need plenty of physicality vs Philly too -- that's why I can see Monty staying in over Gragnani (or, if the Sabres win game 2, Sekera, since Lindy may not want to break up a winning group). Definitely feels like MAG is an NHL player now (and felt that way even before the goal last night). I assume he'll be on our opening night roster in October. He's already the best passer out of the Sabres' defensemen. During that awful Sabres power play, I kept hoping they'd have him bring up the puck and get it to someone to set up possession in the offensive zone, but TC and Myers kept doing it (and turning it over).
dEnnis the Menace Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I'd agree with the physicality part. Grags seems to let Philly get the puck in the corner and then defends the pass. After the shot Morrisonn took late last night I wonder if he's gonna be OK for game 2. Could be "problem" solved. I like Monty better than I like Morrisonn, so I honestly hope it's "problem solved."
LabattBlue Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 Well, I think Lindy's pretty happy with Myers-Butler as the top pairing, so I wouldn't expect those 2 to be separated. Also, I don't think Butler is much of a hitter, although he cleared the crease with more of an edge last night than he generally does. This is a legitimate view, but it's not just many posters here who like Gragnani -- Lindy is really happy with him too. He played almost 20 minutes last night and Lindy said his play was "excellent" in the presser. I agree that Gragnani played well last night, but it scares the hell out of me that one mistake due to his inexperience could swing the series the other way. If the Sabres had a lot more experience on the blueline, maybe having Gragnani in the lineup wouldn't worry me so much.
nfreeman Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I'd agree with the physicality part. Grags seems to let Philly get the puck in the corner and then defends the pass. After the shot Morrisonn took late last night I wonder if he's gonna be OK for game 2. Could be "problem" solved. I like Monty better than I like Morrisonn, so I honestly hope it's "problem solved." Morrisonn didn't practice today: linkage Losing an experienced NHL defenseman to injury in game 1 of the playoffs is not a solution to a problem.
That Aud Smell Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 Losing an experienced NHL defenseman to injury in game 1 of the playoffs is not a solution to a problem. jeff jillison agrees with this.
R_Dudley Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 Morrisonn didn't practice today: linkage Losing an experienced NHL defenseman to injury in game 1 of the playoffs is not a solution to a problem. Great point. I think Morrison's size, reach and physical play along the boards will be sorely missed. Game 1 Phl was already setting up camp in the Buffalo zone along the boards next they will start building sheds. :pirate:
Taro T Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I agree that Gragnani played well last night, but it scares the hell out of me that one mistake due to his inexperience could swing the series the other way. If the Sabres had a lot more experience on the blueline, maybe having Gragnani in the lineup wouldn't worry me so much. As opposed to Monty throwing the puck up the middle blindly in the 1st? :unsure: (You know, a mistake that actually happened and could have swung the series the other way. ;) ) MAG played better than Morrisonn or Montador last night. I could see him staying in the lineup ahead of Shaone, but think he'd get bounced before Steve when Reggie or Leopold are ready.
dEnnis the Menace Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 Morrisonn didn't practice today: linkage Losing an experienced NHL defenseman to injury in game 1 of the playoffs is not a solution to a problem. You're right, and i don't wish injury on any player. the only thing i was trying to say was that I would rather have Morrisson sit than Monty. I realize the way I said it was not the best at all :unsure:
X. Benedict Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I like Monty better than I like Morrisonn, so I honestly hope it's "problem solved." I think it was Mostly a case of Monty trying to do too much. A couple crazy passes, and a pinch that left MAG back alone.... My theory is that Monty donated his brain from the frist half of the season to Chris Bulter.
Derrico Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I'm repeating myself, but for some reason many posters fall in love with the rookie with no experience. First it was Byron, then Mancari, now Gragnani. IT'S THE PLAYOFFS! I'll take Montador and Morrisonn any day over Gragnani. Everyone is quick to criticize Montador, but Myers gives the puck away just as much if not more. I don't see anyone calling for Myers to sit. Unless they really start shitting the bed, I'll continue to take the size and physical play of M&M. Myers size, PP ability and offensive upside are FAR superior to Montador. You can't really be saying that Myers has been playing as poorly as Monty can you?
Buffalo Wings Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I think it was Mostly a case of Monty trying to do too much. A couple crazy passes, and a pinch that left MAG back alone.... Which is stuff he should know not to do. He's been around the league and in the playoffs enough that he should be able to bring that experience to the ice. That said, I think I'd still want Montador out there over Morrisonn. Seems like Morrisonn isn't aggressive enough and he makes enough mistakes that I'd rather have an 80% Leopold than a 100% Morrison.
X. Benedict Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 Which is stuff he should know not to do. He's been around the league and in the playoffs enough that he should be able to bring that experience to the ice. That said, I think I'd still want Montador out there over Morrisonn. Seems like Morrisonn isn't aggressive enough and he makes enough mistakes that I'd rather have an 80% Leopold than a 100% Morrison. I'd much rather have Monty in an up-ice situation. Morrison on the PK.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I agree that Gragnani played well last night, but it scares the hell out of me that one mistake due to his inexperience could swing the series the other way. If the Sabres had a lot more experience on the blueline, maybe having Gragnani in the lineup wouldn't worry me so much. How much experience does Montador have? Yet, early in the game he almost single handedly gave it to the Flyers with his three penalties and horrendous turnover right in front of Miller. They have a Rookie of the Year award because it presumes that some rookies can and do play well. Give the kid a break!
DumbPuck Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 How much experience does Montador have? Yet, early in the game he almost single handedly gave it to the Flyers with his three penalties and horrendous turnover right in front of Miller. They have a Rookie of the Year award because it presumes that some rookies can and do play well. Give the kid a break! Plenty of experience behind glass methinks...
Weave Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 I'd much rather have Monty in an up-ice situation. Morrison on the PK. They definitely bring something different. WIth Sekera out I think we need Monty to pinch and skate up with the rush. When Sekera comes back I think we have plenty of D men capable and willing to join the rush and the choice whether to sit Monty or Shaonne becomes more difficult. My take on it is that Monty and Morissonn are equal but different. Maybe it makes sense to make the who-to-sit decision based on whether the extra D man is on the right side or left, cuz they do tend to play on different sides when in their natural positions.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 If all the D were healthy I'd like to see: Myers, Butler, Sekera, Weber, Leopold, and Gragnani in the lineup with Monty and Morrisonn as healthy scratches. I'd have to think about how to do the pairings as I would be concerned about the potential lack of physicality. Thoughts???
nucci Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 EDIT: Reason I responded to this :doh: This is good news! ha! I need out of work! haha Sabres Edge reporting Pronger likely out for Game Two. I wouldn't mind them bein right... B-) http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres/ I'm here in Philly. I would be very surprised if he plays at all this series. He hasn't practiced in weeks.
LGR4GM Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 so, morrisonn can sit and I could care less at this point. He has been eh all season. He has not had a lot of games where anyone has really been like i thought morrisonn was solid tonight has he? Trade him in the offseason I am willing to deal with the growing pains of young def over losing one of them to keep morrisonn for another year of mediocrity at best. Weber, Butler as of late, and MAG are all playing better than him. I think Myers is showing his age (young) a bit and we are going to have to suffer. Myers needs that vet on his wing to help him and teach him. Ditch Morisonn dont resign monty but go out and get a steady really good d man for myers wing and then let leo, weber, sekera, butler/mag fight over the last spot. Pairings would be Myers/X Leo/butler-mag weber/sekera comments?
dudacek Posted April 15, 2011 Report Posted April 15, 2011 so, morrisonn can sit and I could care less at this point. He has been eh all season. He has not had a lot of games where anyone has really been like i thought morrisonn was solid tonight has he? Trade him in the offseason I am willing to deal with the growing pains of young def over losing one of them to keep morrisonn for another year of mediocrity at best. Weber, Butler as of late, and MAG are all playing better than him. I think Myers is showing his age (young) a bit and we are going to have to suffer. Myers needs that vet on his wing to help him and teach him. Ditch Morisonn dont resign monty but go out and get a steady really good d man for myers wing and then let leo, weber, sekera, butler/mag fight over the last spot. Pairings would be Myers/X Leo/butler-mag weber/sekera comments? Agree completely. Morrisonn is OK at best and won't get better. Monty played his best hockey of his life for the first half of the year, but he's back to normal, pretty good a lot of the time, but with some serious errors along the way. I've seen enough to be willing to grow with Myers, Sekera, Butler and Weber. Grags looks good so far and Scheistel, Brennan, McNabb, and Pysyk are in the system. Leopold and one other vet are fine. Just make sure that vet is better than Morrisonn and Monty.
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