LabattBlue Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 I'm just wondering with Connolly's mini resurgence if there is anyone out there who wants to see him in blue & gold come October? Finishes the season and playoffs strong? Signs for a lesser amount? Learns how to win faceoffs? Magically can stay healthy? IMO...He needs to go and there is no scenario where I want him here in 11-12.
LabattBlue Posted March 14, 2011 Author Report Posted March 14, 2011 "He ain't going nowhere".. :wallbash:
Lanny Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 I think the thing that keeps the door open for him returning is the lack of a viable replacement. Free agent pool is shallow and there aren't any center prospects who will be ready for the NHL at the beginning of next season. I could see signing him for one year $2M and let him hold a spot for another year until Adam is ready. Wouldn't bring him back for any more than $2M.
Kristian Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 I don't care if Timmy ends the season by going on a tear, scoring in 13 games straight, he needs to go.
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 I voted yes as a fourth line center at fourth line center price tag.
thesportsbuff Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 If Timmy would sign for $2.25-2.50 or less for a season I would welcome him back with open arms to center our third line. I wouldn't want him back if the expectation is to be our #1 or #2 center, but for a low price on the third line/powerplay, I think it'd be an alright investment for a ONE year deal. He's got to realize that with his poor season combined with his past injury issues, his 4.5 salary is way too much, but IDK how big of a pay cut he would be willing to take-- probably not all the way down to 2.5, and if that's the case, he can walk and nobody will be too heartbroken over it. Perhaps playing for Pegula and playing for a team that may soon become "hockey heaven" and have a legit shot at competing for the cup has him re-focused, re-energized, and playing to his ability. If we got him signed for 2.5 and he plays the way we know he's capable of, it would be a steal. But in all likelihood, he's a goner.
Weave Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Let him walk. Too many years of indiffeent play. Too many stories of the worst faceoff guy on the team unwilling to work on his faceoffs after practice and being last on, first off the ice. It is time this team moved in a new direction. Connolly should be the first player to be upgraded in the offseason.
henysgol Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Yes, if he gets his $#1t together and keeps it together. If not, then who WOULD want him?
korab rules Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 "He ain't going nowhere".. Shut up. That's not funny I think the thing that keeps the door open for him returning is the lack of a viable replacement. Free agent pool is shallow and there aren't any center prospects who will be ready for the NHL at the beginning of next season. I could see signing him for one year $2M and let him hold a spot for another year until Adam is ready. Wouldn't bring him back for any more than $2M. Sometimes it's as simple as addition by subtraction, even when there appears to be no viable alternative. His empty spot is an opportunity for someone else to step up I voted yes as a fourth line center at fourth line center price tag. Timmy would be the worst 4th line center ever. 4th lines are supposed to be crash and bang, change the pace and tempo, and occasionally take liberties with the other team. The only thing Timmy has ever taken liberties with is his liver. The only good thing to be said for putting Timmy on the 4th line would be that his production would finally match his role on the team.
IKnowPhysics Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 If Timmy would sign for $2.25-2.50 or less for a season I would welcome him back... But in all likelihood, he's a goner. Agreed. He's a waste of cap space. After being injured, he made a comeback and at some point showed flashes of being close to a point-per-game type of centerman, but his lack of work ethic and performance in 5-on-5 has since dissolved him into more of a special teams specialist. He's also on pace to complete the year with about 38 points. Definitely not the type of player you spend $5 million on, especially when you consider he also doesn't bring any significant veteran leadership ability to the table. So, maybe something like a one year-$2.5 million plus incentives (like an extra $0.5 million for every 10 points he gathers over 50 points or something; too lazy to see how cap hit works). Other than that, I could see making moves to replace him around draft time. And hell, if it comes down July 1st, I'm sure there's some other team that wants to overpay him more than we want to reasonably pay him, so why not pick up a 2nd or 3rd rounder for his pre-July 1 signing rights? EDIT: Bonus: I'm happy that because of Pegula's lack of financial mandates, we're talking about how much cap space we have to fill up, not how little we have to spend. In Pegulaland, Cap Space is the new commodity, not money.
FogBat Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Ok, everyone, shoot me, but there's a much greater chance that Drew Stafford stays over Tim Connolly.
Lanny Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 So, maybe something like a one year-$2.5 million plus incentives (like an extra $0.5 million for every 10 points he gathers over 50 points or something; too lazy to see how cap hit works). Other than that, I could see making moves to replace him around draft time. He's too young to have an incentive based contract.
Eleven Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Ok, everyone, shoot me, but there's a much greater chance that Drew Stafford stays over Tim Connolly. That appears to be the case. Even I've backed off of Stafford.
Fifty Mission Cap Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 That appears to be the case. Even I've backed off of Stafford. Connolly reminds me of that kid in Pee-Wee who was locker room poison. The "all about me" guy who when he scores he holds it over the head of everyone else, is not positive, unless it's about him, but doesn't really see that he's underperforming. Stafford on the other hand, seems more mature, and the absence of Roy (and Connolly when injured) have allowed for him to step into that scoring role that we've seen him be capable of in the past, also, lots of hat tricks this year - almost 50% of his production... He's also got some size, which we can't say for guys like Gerbe and Ennis, although Gerbe is pretty damn tenacious. Connolly is like glass joe from Mike Tyson's Punch Out.
Lanny Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Connolly reminds me of that kid in Pee-Wee who was locker room poison. The "all about me" guy who when he scores he holds it over the head of everyone else, is not positive, unless it's about him, but doesn't really see that he's underperforming. Maybe I'm ignorant to it all, but what is stuff like this based on?
Skibum Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 We have seen nothing but flashes of Connolly's potential for years on end now. I think we've finally seen enough. It's time to part ways. While it would be nice to have him at $2M or less to anchor the third line, I don't see Tim agreeing to that at this point in his career. With Roy back in the mix, and Boyes on board, there's no reason to bring him back. That $4.5 million could be much better spent.
LGR4GM Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 ...what would be different about connolly next year over the past 3 years of him being lazy? His age?
inkman Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 This will be Darcy's pass or fail moment under Pegs.
Weave Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Even if Connolly continues to play well and contribute offensively into the playoffs he still represents the past and always will. He is a symbol of all of the decisions made under TG/LQ. He needs to move on so the new organization can move forward. Worst case if we can't replace him is our top 2 centers are Derek Roy and Brad Boyes. Doesn't seem so bad to me. ETA- Is anyone here willing to accept Darcy saying "we tried to make something happen and couldn't find another center on the market so we are glad to have TC back for another year"?
craze Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 I am an unabashed Connolly hater but really? Are we asking this question? Has he done something recently? He is actually even in recent games. I've looked at all the plays from his recent "explosion". A goal in a 5 on 3 cleaning up scraps (which I'd actually would have loved to have seen him do in the previous 80 games), one nice pass to Ennis and then two plays where he happened to touch the puck before the guy who scored. This guy is worthless, locker room poison who scavenges occasional points on the power play to make his numbers, well not respectable, but less awful. You can bring in or bring up ANYONE to put up the same production and to provide more leadership to the team. Watch the game when Tim Connolly is on the ice and tell me how many battles he wins. I know he is not the biggest guy but he literally loses 9 out of 10 battles. Gone.
LGR4GM Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Even if Connolly continues to play well and contribute offensively into the playoffs he still represents the past and always will. He is a symbol of all of the decisions made under TG/LQ. He needs to move on so the new organization can move forward. Worst case if we can't replace him is our top 2 centers are Derek Roy and Brad Boyes. Doesn't seem so bad to me. ETA- Is anyone here willing to accept Darcy saying "we tried to make something happen and couldn't find another center on the market so we are glad to have TC back for another year"? If he says that we should, as sabres fans, riot in the streets... seriously
BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 There is one situation and only one i would want TC back on the team next year. 1.) He needs to take a pay cut, he is far too inconsistent to warrant his kind of paycheck 2.) We do in fact land a legitimate #1 center in the off season 3.) we move to a system similar to 06-07 with our First line centered by (insert new #1 here), second centered by TC, and Roy centering the third line. Effectively giving us a Briere and Drury Esq first and third lines. The paycut is a must though. If we could actually have him for the money he's worth, i think he's a very valuable player to the organization. And who knows, not centering one of the top lines might motivate him to push the throttle harder. But probably not.
LGR4GM Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 There is one situation and only one i would want TC back on the team next year. 1.) He needs to take a pay cut, he is far too inconsistent to warrant his kind of paycheck 2.) We do in fact land a legitimate #1 center in the off season 3.) we move to a system similar to 06-07 with our First line centered by (insert new #1 here), second centered by TC, and Roy centering the third line. Effectively giving us a Briere and Drury Esq first and third lines. The paycut is a must though. If we could actually have him for the money he's worth, i think he's a very valuable player to the organization. And who knows, not centering one of the top lines might motivate him to push the throttle harder. But probably not. tc as a 2nd line center? no. Third line, eh. Not on the team, yes. Unless he makes 2mil or less he needs to be long gone, and even then idk if hes worth a pot or a window...
spndnchz Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 He's the epitome of what we use to be, not the future, not for $1, not for 9 mill.
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