darksabre Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Pacioretty blasts Chara and the league on TSN. Can't link cuz I'm on my phone but I'm sure someone can.
Eleven Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Pacioretty blasts Chara and the league on TSN. Can't link cuz I'm on my phone but I'm sure someone can. Here you go: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357316 Drane, your theory is bordering on idiocy. And I don't mean to be offensive about it, but to think that coaches are going to dress scrubs to intentionally incur lost-time injuries, even after the prospect idea of league medical review has been put forth.... Oh, and on edit: While I know there have been divers on this team (some of whom, you and others lament the loss of, e.g., no. 48), I do not know that Lindy Ruff has encouraged that. To the contrary, guys like Roy seem to have been cured of their tendencies to dive during extended tenures with the team.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Pacioretty blasts Chara and the league on TSN. Can't link cuz I'm on my phone but I'm sure someone can. That's a pretty big accusation. I'm saying Chara probably would have loved to flip him into the bench. He's saying Chara took his head and intentionally drove it into the turnbuckle. That is a huge difference, and I'm suprised McKenzie would quote that knowing the shitstorm that can come out of it. If this isn't emotion talking and he and the team believe it, how do you not retaliate? Cannonball Chara's knee in the corner. Not good in the name of NHL diplomacy. If it can be proven that Chara wanted to ram his head there, then I take back what I have said....Chara is an evil SOB...and doesn't need to be suspended, but needs to be taken out old school.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Here you go: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357316 Drane, your theory is bordering on idiocy. And I don't mean to be offensive about it, but to think that coaches are going to dress scrubs to intentionally incur lost-time injuries, even after the prospect idea of league medical review has been put forth.... Oh, and on edit: While I know there have been divers on this team (some of whom, you and others lament the loss of, e.g., no. 48), I do not know that Lindy Ruff has encouraged that. To the contrary, guys like Roy seem to have been cured of their tendencies to dive during extended tenures with the team. Now that playoffs are on the line, the diving is up. Either that, or the last 3 games Ennis is wearing a new pair of skates that need to be sharpened. If the NHL starts to run like the federal government, I will no longer watch.
Eleven Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Now that playoffs are on the line, the diving is up. Either that, or the last 3 games Ennis is wearing a new pair of skates that need to be sharpened. If the NHL starts to run like the federal government, I will no longer watch. Diving, or diving that produces a serious lost-time injury? If Ennis is acting like Roy circa 2007, by all means, he should sit for 2 mins. (For how many years have I posted something on the order of "Roy needs to sharpen his skates"?) And I have no idea what the sentence about the government means. Is the NHL going to start an unnecessary war and then worry about paying for it eight years later? Or is it going to start demanding that I remove incandescent lightbulbs from my home? What do you mean?
JJFIVEOH Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Pacioretty needs to be suspended for openly discrediting the NHL.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Diving, or diving that produces a serious lost-time injury? If Ennis is acting like Roy circa 2007, by all means, he should sit for 2 mins. (For how many years have I posted something on the order of "Roy needs to sharpen his skates"?) And I have no idea what the sentence about the government means. Is the NHL going to start an unnecessary war and then worry about paying for it eight years later? Or is it going to start demanding that I remove incandescent lightbulbs from my home? What do you mean? Government=Regulation=Inefficiency The whole rigamarole of instituting a blanket suspension/injury policy is a nightmare. Especially with concussions. One doctor could say the guy is clear....maybe another says no. You start linking the two and you are in trouble.
TheMadCap Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Pacioretty needs to be suspended for openly discrediting the NHL. hahah! I was thinking he will probably get suspended for his comments! Wouldn't that be nice?
SabresMojo Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 I just read what Max said on TSN... If/When he plays again...and when they face the Bruins, I bet he wont try anything and be the bigger man, but I sure as hell think that something will go down during the next meeting. Buffalo better watch out tomorrow. Chara is a dirty SoB and Max basically stated that and the fact that he and Chara were the ONLY ones involved in that play means that their sides are the most accurate (with thinking and position). With that being said, Im sure Pac has a good enough memory (unless he completely lost it w/ the concussion) to remember HOW he was hit..did it feel like a driving motion, that type of stuff. Chara should not be playing tomorrow...I hope Myers shows him whose the better giant on that ice.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 The NHL is disgraceful. I can hear Bettman stammering on the phones right now. "Kahhhlin! Whadda we gonna do?"
darksabre Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Gotta think at least one player on the Habs is passionate enough to dole out a little street justice. Chara and the NHL need to be taught a lesson. Get the media involved. Unleash a $hitstorm on Campbell and Bettman.
ParkMeadow Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 To GoDD - I find your logic nonsensical and sentiments insensitive. Now to invoke politics and make a comparison to the federal government- come on, just stop already! As I have said in numerous posts since shortly after this happened, Chara's hit should have resulted in a significant suspension. It was illegal and resulted in a life altering injury to Pachioretty. The NHL is essentially saying, by not meting out any disciplinary action, "Take care of it yourselves, boys". They are allowing things to devolve back to pre-lockout standards, and it is a crying shame, IMO. This great sport will continue to be an ugly stepchild to the three other major sports, and ESPN (and other hockey haters) will use this video and lack of action by the league to relegate it to the equivalent of WWF and cage fighting. More importantly, the natural reaction of teams like the Canadiens will be "an eye for an eye" vigilante justice, and more thuggery with less skilled hockey will be the unfortunate end result. I hope I'm wrong about this, but somehow I don't think I am.
SabresMojo Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 To GoDD - I find your logic nonsensical and sentiments insensitive. Now to invoke politics and make a comparison to the federal government- come on, just stop already! As I have said in numerous posts since shortly after this happened, Chara's hit should have resulted in a significant suspension. It was illegal and resulted in a life altering injury to Pachioretty. The NHL is essentially saying, by not meting out any disciplinary action, "Take care of it yourselves, boys". They are allowing things to devolve back to pre-lockout standards, and it is a crying shame, IMO. This great sport will continue to be an ugly stepchild to the three other major sports, and ESPN (and other hockey haters) will use this video and lack of action by the league to relegate it to the equivalent of WWF and cage fighting. More importantly, the natural reaction of teams like the Canadiens will be "an eye for an eye" vigilante justice, and more thuggery with less skilled hockey will be the unfortunate end result. I hope I'm wrong about this, but somehow I don't think I am. I agree w/ your last sentence about an eye for an eye. Something will go down in there next match. IDK what...and Chara should be susp for it...but hey, NHL Proving why it is corrupt in that department
billsrcursed Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Government=Regulation=Inefficiency The whole rigamarole of instituting a blanket suspension/injury policy is a nightmare. Especially with concussions. One doctor could say the guy is clear....maybe another says no. You start linking the two and you are in trouble. The problem with doing it their way now (trying to decide intent) is the shitstorm they get from fans who view the intent otherwise. The good thing for them is they don't seem to care much what the fans think in terms of disciplining their players, so they have that going for them. I still can't bring myself to believe his intent was to ride him into the side of the glass, but there have been some great points brought up in this thread about illegal hockey plays and what penalties/suspensions should arise if the player gets injured.
LGR4GM Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Good job Pacioretti, seriously you are awesome! Finally someone calls out NHL's bullsh^t. You know what they can't do sh*t to him because hes hurt they did nothing and they got called out, the nhl so much as says pachioretty is wrong they will look like gigantic tool bags they are so its freaking awesome, lets trade for pacieoretti(w/e his name is) and make him center... jk jk but hes a tough guy to be talking sh*t 24hours later. GO PACIORETTY!!! :clapping: :worthy:
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 The problem with doing it their way now (trying to decide intent) is the shitstorm they get from fans who view the intent otherwise. The good thing for them is they don't seem to care much what the fans think in terms of disciplining their players, so they have that going for them. I still can't bring myself to believe his intent was to ride him into the side of the glass, but there have been some great points brought up in this thread about illegal hockey plays and what penalties/suspensions should arise if the player gets injured. I agree about the suspension policy being debated. And thank you for a common sensical post.
Onceagain Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Wow that is absolute horseshit. If you watch the replay in slow mo. You can clearly see Chara's left hand and glove up in the area of Max's face MAKING SURE it smashes into the turnbuckle. Who even knew what a turnbuckle was before this incident. They should rename it the Chara! If i was league he gets 10 games...he would still be back for the playoffs in that scenario.
Robviously Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Here you go: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357316 Epic. Good for Pacioretty. The guy is lying in a hospital bed wondering if he'll ever play hockey again and he has to hear that Chara doesn't deserve a suspension for this hit because the NHL has never suspended him before? F that. And F the NHL. The league absolutely deserves its second-class status thanks to stuff like this.
Guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Anyone with a brain can see exactly what Pacioretty is talking about in this statement after watching the replay....at least anyone other than GoDD. You have got to be a complete f-ing moron to not see the intent. I have no clue what you saw Drane, but you are in a dream world bro. Pure and simple. "I believe he was trying to guide my head into the turnbuckle. We all know where the turnbuckle is. It wasn't a head shot like a lot of head shots we see but I do feel he targeted my head into the turnbuckle."
bunomatic Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Epic. Good for Pacioretty. The guy is lying in a hospital bed wondering if he'll ever play hockey again and he has to hear that Chara doesn't deserve a suspension for this hit because the NHL has never suspended him before? F that. And F the NHL. The league absolutely deserves its second-class status thanks to stuff like this. Agreed. And to add to that the N.H.L. has set themselves up for another Moore/Bertuze incident where the habs players will feel they will have to handle the justice aspect of this incident themselves the next time these teams meet because the N.H.L. was unwilling to .
Hephaestus Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 He wasn't suspended but he clearly didn't instigate anything. Gaustad went after him. Think again: Under 46.22 Chara should have been suspended.
Guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Does anyone know where you can submit a fan email or concern about the NHL? I mean I would love to let them know what an almost 40 year fan of the NHL thinks of their ridiculous conclusions to these hits we have been seeing. The Mike Murphy statement about Chara never being disciplined in his 13 year career for any other incidents is just pure stupidity IMO. So lets compare this logic to ordinary life. Let's say I have driven drunk 15 or 20 times in my driving career....I have never gotten pulled over or received a DWI. But the last time I drove drunk I caused an accident and injured the other driver, almost paralyzing them. Now, since I have never been caught and punished before, I should be able to walk away with no punishment.....right? What's the difference? The NHL is pitiful.
inkman Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 If I were Pacioretti, I'd file assault charges. He quite literally could have been killed.
billsrcursed Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Does anyone know where you can submit a fan email or concern about the NHL? I mean I would love to let them know what an almost 40 year fan of the NHL thinks of their ridiculous conclusions to these hits we have been seeing. The Mike Murphy statement about Chara never being disciplined in his 13 year career for any other incidents is just pure stupidity IMO. So lets compare this logic to ordinary life. Let's say I have driven drunk 15 or 20 times in my driving career....I have never gotten pulled over or received a DWI. But the last time I drove drunk I caused an accident and injured the other driver, almost paralyzing them. Now, since I have never been caught and punished before, I should be able to walk away with no punishment.....right? What's the difference? The NHL is pitiful. I'd love to answer your question, but I'm a complete F'n moron because I have a differing opinion than you on a person's intent, so what would be the point? You won't find many who will be willing to discuss things with you if you're going to name call and bash anyone with a differing opinion than yours. Good luck, though...
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