deluca67 Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Devils vs Canes! Big four point game in the conference. Kovi is on a four game goal scoring streak and is tied for 2nd in the NHL with 7 GW goals. Devils win and they are only 10 points back of the Canes and 6 points behind the 9th place Sabres.
SwampD Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Devils vs Canes! Big four point game in the conference. Kovi is on a four game goal scoring streak and is tied for 2nd in the NHL with 7 GW goals. Devils win and they are only 10 points back of the Canes and 6 points behind the 9th place Sabres. There's just no place on the Sabres for a 50 goal scorer.
Lanny Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Devils vs Canes! Big four point game in the conference. Kovi is on a four game goal scoring streak and is tied for 2nd in the NHL with 7 GW goals. Devils win and they are only 10 points back of the Canes and 6 points behind the 9th place Sabres. Yikes, they've been winning without Brodeur as well, who may start tonight.
deluca67 Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 There's just no place on the Sabres for a 50 goal scorer. It's better to have five 10 goal scorers. :doh:
nobody Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 Why is this thread still pinned? Can't we let it fade to the bottom already?
X. Benedict Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 There's just no place on the Sabres for a 50 goal scorer. We'll see if he scores 50 goals altogether between 2015-2025. Are we supposed to envy the moves the Devils have made now?
SwampD Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 We'll see if he scores 50 goals altogether between 2015-2025. Are we supposed to envy the moves the Devils have made now? From this point forward, that is going to be my response whenever Kovy's name is mentioned. The number of people that said he had no place on the Sabres is mind blowing. I am envious and we'll see where each team ends up at the end of the year. I do know one thing, I'd rather see a GM do SOMETHING and fail, then try again, than see a GM do nothing and fail, then do nothing again.
X. Benedict Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 From this point forward, that is going to be my response whenever Kovy's name is mentioned. The number of people that said he had no place on the Sabres is mind blowing. I am envious and we'll see where each team ends up at the end of the year. I do know one thing, I'd rather see a GM do SOMETHING and fail, then try again, than see a GM do nothing and fail, then do nothing again. If you think you can build a team around Kovulchuck, then Oduya, Bergfor, Cormier, a 1st round pick, $10O million, a 15 year contract, and tremendous salary cap problems aren't too much to pay. But it is not just whining to think it a bad deal. I still do.
SwampD Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 If you think you can build a team around Kovulchuck, then Oduya, Bergfor, Cormier, a 1st round pick, $10O million, a 15 year contract, and tremendous salary cap problems aren't too much to pay. But it is not just whining to think it a bad deal. I still do. I'm going to reserve judgment. If the Devils picked up Tim Kennedy (even at a million a year), they would get more production out of him and Kovy, for less money, than Vanek and Stafford. I guess the Sabres are screwed too then. I won't even get into the whole Kennedy at $1 mil a year over Nieds at $1.25 mil a year debate that this train of thought brings up.
Stoner Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 If you think you can build a team around Kovulchuck, then Oduya, Bergfor, Cormier, a 1st round pick, $10O million, a 15 year contract, and tremendous salary cap problems aren't too much to pay. But it is not just whining to think it a bad deal. I still do. Kovalchuk makes a little less than seven million a year. What's the big deal? So they suffered some cap consequences in the short term. If he's the player in coming seasons he's been in recent weeks, no one will remember, or care.
X. Benedict Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 I'm going to reserve judgment. If the Devils picked up Tim Kennedy (even at a million a year), they would get more production out of him and Kovy, for less money, than Vanek and Stafford. I guess the Sabres are screwed too then. I won't even get into the whole Kennedy at $1 mil a year over Nieds at $1.25 mil a year debate that this train of thought brings up. If it was a good trade for the Devils the logic hasn't caught up with the team. Though they are playing much much better lately, I think it is their defense more than the forwards that have come around.
deluca67 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 If you think you can build a team around Kovulchuck, then Oduya, Bergfor, Cormier, a 1st round pick, $10O million, a 15 year contract, and tremendous salary cap problems aren't too much to pay. But it is not just whining to think it a bad deal. I still do. According to Capgeek.com Kovi's cap hit is less than Vaneks. Kovi at $6.6 mil and Vanek at $7.1 mil.
deluca67 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 If it was a good trade for the Devils the logic hasn't caught up with the team. Though they are playing much much better lately, I think it is their defense more than the forwards that have come around. Seriously? Kovi is now tied for second with 7 GW goals and is 7-4-11 +9 over his the Devils last 10 games. If you want to hate the player because the Sabres GM doesn't have the sack to make a deal like, then OK. At least give the player his due when he deserves it.
X. Benedict Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 According to Capgeek.com Kovi's cap hit is less than Vaneks. Kovi at $6.6 mil and Vanek at $7.1 mil. Kovy's like the gift that keeps on giving. We only have 14 more years to talk about his contributions to the Devils. I think Atlanta, anyway, has been a more complete team without him, and much more fun to watch. The last 3 weeks being the exception.
deluca67 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 Kovy's like the gift that keeps on giving. We only have 14 more years to talk about his contributions to the Devils. I think Atlanta, anyway, has been a more complete team without him, and much more fun to watch. The last 3 weeks being the exception. You finally get it. Kovi is a talented player capable of putting up 50 goals and he is now at a fixed cost. At less than $7 mill a year Kovi is a bargain. 14 Years? He won't see the end of the contract. Which is why the NHL gave the Devils such a hard time.
X. Benedict Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 You finally get it. Kovi is a talented player capable of putting up 50 goals and he is now at a fixed cost. At less than $7 mill a year Kovi is a bargain. 14 Years? He won't see the end of the contract. Which is why the NHL gave the Devils such a hard time. He's had a great month. I'll give him that. Most of the year he's been worse than my expectations. He could have a terrific year next year. But I don't see the Devils getting much closer, though their defense has jelled of late. And Tallinder has looked like a stud. (Shouldn't this be the Tallinder thread? :lol: )
deluca67 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 He's had a great month. I'll give him that. Most of the year he's been worse than my expectations. He could have a terrific year next year. But I don't see the Devils getting much closer, though their defense has jelled of late. And Tallinder has looked like a stud. (Shouldn't this be the Tallinder thread? :lol: ) Tallinder is a +12 and has certainly been a catalyst for the Devils recent surge. Kovi got off to a horrible start. That is why I stressed earlier in the year he didn't just a one year deal. When you pick up a Kovi type player you are making a long term investment.
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