JJFIVEOH Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 Seems the bad stretches is something they've been able to avoid over the last 30 games. Of course, the same can be said for good stretches. 17-11-3 over the last 31 games is nothing to shake a stick at for a team that supposedly threw in the towel one month into the season.
PromoTheRobot Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 Seems the bad stretches is something they've been able to avoid over the last 30 games. Of course, the same can be said for good stretches. 17-11-3 over the last 31 games is nothing to shake a stick at for a team that supposedly threw in the towel one month into the season. If the Sabres continue on that pace for the rest of their remaining 37 games their final record would be 40-34-8, 88 points. Last season's 7th and 8th seeds (MON & PHI) finished with 88 points. (In the West, COL needed 95pts to finish 8th) Will 88 be enough this year? PTR
JJFIVEOH Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 If the Sabres continue on that pace for the rest of their remaining 37 games their final record would be 40-34-8, 88 points. Last season's 7th and 8th seeds (MON & PHI) finished with 88 points. (In the West, COL needed 95pts to finish 8th) Will 88 be enough this year? PTR I don't think it will be enough. Right now 8th place is on pace for 91 points. They're going to eventually need to get more than 2 wins in a row. It just bothers me that before tonight's game the media and the fans have been acting like they've just lost 10 in a row. Am I optimistic? Not very much at this point. I want to see an extended win streak before I'm convinced this team isn't as mentally weak as we think they are. But man, the least media can do is sound upbeat when things are going well. Oh yeah, I listened to Schopp and Bulldog before the game. Does it show? Thankfully I usually only catch the post game show........... I'd like to thank those two blowhards for reminding me why I switched to 97 Rock for the Bills post game shows.:wallbash:
BeachedNLA Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 The fans will happily spend his money for him. If he doesn't open up his wallet, he'll be more unpopular than Rigas and Golisano and John Brown and Ralph combined. You really think fans don't have the right to demand he invest in his our team? I'm optimistic that he's not going to assume ownership, walk in and be really impressed by video scouting, an internal budget, waiving a player to save 200k etc. Dude... Back off with claiming to have this knowledge of what type of owner the perspective new guy will be. I agree, the thought IS EXCITING... (we're all frustrated with the free-fall from the promising team of 2006...). If it comes to pass, I hope you're right, and we're all spending $$'s on a team hoisting a cup (because as much as you'd like to believe that's all it's about..., there is a "bottom line" to everything). The man is obviously doing his evaluation of everything that is "Buffalo Sabres" (with rumors now putting anything happening off until February, see your partner in lack of optimism present-tense, here: Link , states...). I'm on record as being just as optimistic as the next guy, with "what comes next" with the team. Right now, we've got a team missing their top scorer, who are 6-2-1 in their last nine, and with Miller struggling with off-nights, the team is fighting for every point they get (and don't think THEY don't hear the talk of a prospective new owner, and hopefully that also is fueling their fire). Sabres past, present and future will always be my team... And here's hoping they just started to find a mix that will lead to an exciting playoff push... (with fewer games like the recent maddening efforts against Flyers and Islanders, after which this place always drifts to "Pegula talk"...). As always... Go Sabres!!
spndnchz Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 I agree. That was a different team we saw tonight. I (we all) get on Ruff about his lines, but when it mattered tonight, he had Gerbe, Goose, and McCormick on the ice, and they deserved it. Miller looked really good. That really was a good hockey game. Any word on Stafford yet? Stafford has a groin injury. Those can be a day or two weeks...
spndnchz Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 What did u guys think of Myers playing next to Morrisonn again?
R_Dudley Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 What did u guys think of Myers playing next to Morrisonn again? They looked out of sync with each other and I saw Tyler make several bad decisions with the puck in his own zone that allowed shots. Don't know why but these two together have looked bad more than good to me at least.
shrader Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 What did u guys think of Myers playing next to Morrisonn again? I was always scared of the Morrisonn-Weber pair thanks to their lack of speed, but at this point, I lately I'm starting to think that Weber is our best guy out there. Honestly, I never really noticed who he was skating with, but I'm assuming it was Sekera. Those two pairs make a lot more sense to me, mix the speed with the physical guy. But then again, after watching Myers late in the 3rd last night, maybe he's the physical guy. And I absolutely love seeing when a guy is in the goalie's head as much as Vanek was during the OT PP last night. Anytime you see the goalie trying to clear out a screen by himself, you know good things are about to follow. Price was so locked in on Vanek on that 2-on-1 winner that he was completely unaware of Pominville. It's nice when that one guy on this team who can actually make goalies think twice is the one bearing down on the net.
Stoner Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 And I absolutely love seeing when a guy is in the goalie's head as much as Vanek was during the OT PP last night. Anytime you see the goalie trying to clear out a screen by himself, you know good things are about to follow. Price was so locked in on Vanek on that 2-on-1 winner that he was completely unaware of Pominville. It's nice when that one guy on this team who can actually make goalies think twice is the one bearing down on the net. Speaking of Price, his little coffee klatch with Subban after Subban tipped Niedermayer's point blank shot wide was perhaps the oddest thing I've ever seen during a hockey game. Weird!
shrader Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 And speaking of Subban, he's quite the flopper, isn't he? I've never seen a player back away from a near fight with his hands in the air like he did last night. That's the last thing I'd expect from a guy who's supposed to play with a bit of an edge.
Stoner Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 Dude... Back off with claiming to have this knowledge of what type of owner the perspective new guy will be. I agree, the thought IS EXCITING... (we're all frustrated with the free-fall from the promising team of 2006...). If it comes to pass, I hope you're right, and we're all spending $'s on a team hoisting a cup (because as much as you'd like to believe that's all it's about..., there is a "bottom line" to everything). The man is obviously doing his evaluation of everything that is "Buffalo Sabres" (with rumors now putting anything happening off until February, see your partner in lack of optimism present-tense, here: Link , states...). I'm on record as being just as optimistic as the next guy, with "what comes next" with the team. Right now, we've got a team missing their top scorer, who are 6-2-1 in their last nine, and with Miller struggling with off-nights, the team is fighting for every point they get (and don't think THEY don't hear the talk of a prospective new owner, and hopefully that also is fueling their fire). Sabres past, present and future will always be my team... And here's hoping they just started to find a mix that will lead to an exciting playoff push... (with fewer games like the recent maddening efforts against Flyers and Islanders, after which this place always drifts to "Pegula talk"...). As always... Go Sabres!! I don't claim to have any knowledge. My opinion on what kind of owner he's going to be is merely half wish and half strong suspicion. For example, I see no reason Pegula and/or Pegula's people should come in and be interested in creating another third jersey to help fill the coffers. If there's a focus on the bottom line, I'll be convinced the guy has an ulterior motive of some kind.
Stoner Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 And speaking of Subban, he's quite the flopper, isn't he? I've never seen a player back away from a near fight with his hands in the air like he did last night. That's the last thing I'd expect from a guy who's supposed to play with a bit of an edge. What happened to embellishment? That also goes for every guy whose head goes JFK whenever he's touched by a high stick. And slamming yourself into the boards to draw a penalty. Isn't that what Cammalleri did? Is there no honor left, sir!?
bunomatic Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 And speaking of Subban, he's quite the flopper, isn't he? I've never seen a player back away from a near fight with his hands in the air like he did last night. That's the last thing I'd expect from a guy who's supposed to play with a bit of an edge. when he was backing away from the scrum with his hands in the air he was making light in a sarcastic way of who was threatening him. I thought it was over the top and suggested at the time that someone needs to bitch$lap his punk a$$.
nfreeman Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 Dude... Back off with claiming to have this knowledge of what type of owner the perspective new guy will be. I agree, the thought IS EXCITING... (we're all frustrated with the free-fall from the promising team of 2006...). If it comes to pass, I hope you're right, and we're all spending $'s on a team hoisting a cup (because as much as you'd like to believe that's all it's about..., there is a "bottom line" to everything). The man is obviously doing his evaluation of everything that is "Buffalo Sabres" (with rumors now putting anything happening off until February, see your partner in lack of optimism present-tense, here: Link , states...). I'm on record as being just as optimistic as the next guy, with "what comes next" with the team. Right now, we've got a team missing their top scorer, who are 6-2-1 in their last nine, and with Miller struggling with off-nights, the team is fighting for every point they get (and don't think THEY don't hear the talk of a prospective new owner, and hopefully that also is fueling their fire). Sabres past, present and future will always be my team... And here's hoping they just started to find a mix that will lead to an exciting playoff push... (with fewer games like the recent maddening efforts against Flyers and Islanders, after which this place always drifts to "Pegula talk"...). As always... Go Sabres!! Got all that, PA? What did u guys think of Myers playing next to Morrisonn again? Based on ice time, it might have been a demotion for Myers, as he and Morrisonn had the least of it. I didn't notice it until the 3rd period -- ie I thought Myers started the game paired with Sekera, but I could be wrong about that. In any case, I thought Myers had a pretty sound defensive game. I think though that the Sabres will be better off with Myers and Sekera together, IF they are both playing well, because they are the Sabres' 2 best offensive defensemen. The forwards need all the help creating offense that they can get. Speaking of Price, his little coffee klatch with Subban after Subban tipped Niedermayer's point blank shot wide was perhaps the oddest thing I've ever seen during a hockey game. Weird! I thought Price looked terrific last night. That episode with Subban was pretty amusing and to me demonstrated that Price was totally confident and in the zone. And speaking of Subban, he's quite the flopper, isn't he? I've never seen a player back away from a near fight with his hands in the air like he did last night. That's the last thing I'd expect from a guy who's supposed to play with a bit of an edge. If you're referring to the incident with Kaleta toward the end of the 3rd, I thought Subban was trying to draw a penalty. I actually thought it was a pretty smart play by him as Kaleta is certainly apt to get called for a borderline play. A few other game notes: 1. Nobody on the team brings what Kaleta brings. That hit on Wisniewski was outstanding. It's too bad he followed it immediately with the penalized hit on Halpern. 2. VS' coverage has definitely improved. When Gionta hit Miller and the scrum ensued with Gerbe jumping on Gomez, I wondered whether they would mention Gomez injuring Miller a couple of years ago and didn't figure that they would. But only a few minutes later, not only did they mention it, they showed the video and accurately described it, including the fact that it essentially knocked the Sabres out of the playoffs that year. 3. Speaking of that scrum, that burst of applause for Gerbe looked like a great moment in HSBC. The passion of the game, the playoff urgency, the division rivalry, the hitting, the Sabres not falling apart in the 3rd period, the tense, low-scoring game, the shot on Miller that this time (unlike on the Gomez incident) was immediately answered, the fact that the smallest guy on the ice was pummeling none other than Gomez himself...great stuff. 4. Weber's hit on Cammalleri reminded me of MacArthur's hit on Reddox (from the Oilers) at the beginning of last season. Not quite as bad, but in the ballpark. 5. If TC had Hecht's body and determination, he'd be Zetterberg. 6. It's hard to understand how the team defense can be so up-and-down -- lousy against the Islanders but very strong last night. 7. Ennis played very well last night.
shrader Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 I don't claim to have any knowledge. My opinion on what kind of owner he's going to be is merely half wish and half strong suspicion. For example, I see no reason Pegula and/or Pegula's people should come in and be interested in creating another third jersey to help fill the coffers. If there's a focus on the bottom line, I'll be convinced the guy has an ulterior motive of some kind. What if he's always had an idea for a jersey he thinks would look really good for the Sabres? Personally, I think the whole jersey talk is completely unimportant when it comes to his potential as an owner, but I'll entertain the discussion anyway. What happened to embellishment? That also goes for every guy whose head goes JFK whenever he's touched by a high stick. And slamming yourself into the boards to draw a penalty. Isn't that what Cammalleri did? Is there no honor left, sir!? The high stick one has been bugging me a lot over the last few years, but that one has to be just about impossible to police. How much of it is actual pain, vs. how much is embellishment, vs. how much is just a natural reflex when something comes close to hitting you in the face? It's never going away.
bunomatic Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 That's like the only time Gerbe did anything all game, and that earned him enough votes from the media to earn a 3rd star in this game. The media will fall in love with anything so quickly it's unbelievable. Van man you must have been watching a different game than me. Gerbe had a good game last night and was noticeable without the puck especially to the habs players . If he isn't going to score( i know,he should ) he has to contribute in other ways. Being tough on the puck despite his size really pisses guys off and he was under their skin for most of the night. Just my take but he stood out for once.
shrader Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 If you're referring to the incident with Kaleta toward the end of the 3rd, I thought Subban was trying to draw a penalty. I actually thought it was a pretty smart play by him as Kaleta is certainly apt to get called for a borderline play. It might have been smart if it wasn't one of the most blatantly obvious flops you'll see in a game. I wish the league would fine people for stuff like that.
Stoner Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 The high stick one has been bugging me a lot over the last few years, but that one has to be just about impossible to police. How much of it is actual pain, vs. how much is embellishment, vs. how much is just a natural reflex when something comes close to hitting you in the face? It's never going away. Who's on call, Ghost or ink?
nfreeman Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 Van man you must have been watching a different game than me. Gerbe had a good game last night and was noticeable without the puck especially to the habs players . If he isn't going to score( i know,he should ) he has to contribute in other ways. Being tough on the puck despite his size really pisses guys off and he was under their skin for most of the night. Just my take but he stood out for once. It was Lindy's take as well. If Gerbe could just start cashing in some opportunities, he could stick in the NHL. It might happen -- he has a good, quick shot.
MattPie Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 May a perverted midget ice-hump your sister's favorite hockey player. Ah, you kids don't remember Carson. Forget it. What does that have to do with Carson Daly? :)
Robviously Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 What did u guys think of Myers playing next to Morrisonn again? DO NOT WANT.
spndnchz Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 And speaking of Subban, he's quite the flopper, isn't he? I've never seen a player back away from a near fight with his hands in the air like he did last night. That's the last thing I'd expect from a guy who's supposed to play with a bit of an edge. Kaleta has a cast on his hand, there's no way he's fighting. Based on ice time, it might have been a demotion for Myers, as he and Morrisonn had the least of it. I didn't notice it until the 3rd period -- ie I thought Myers started the game paired with Sekera, but I could be wrong about that. In any case, I thought Myers had a pretty sound defensive game. I think though that the Sabres will be better off with Myers and Sekera together, IF they are both playing well, because they are the Sabres' 2 best offensive defensemen. The forwards need all the help creating offense that they can get. DO NOT WANT. Looking at the TOI numbers, Myers played the whole game with Morrisonn. Sekera played the whole game with Weber. These four got about 17 or so minutes of ice time. Montador and Leopold got around 23 minutes each, probably a bit more because of the PP. If this is what it takes, even ice time and those pairings, to have a game where the other team scores 1 goal ONE GOAL! 8th time this season the opposition has scored 1 or less. With the scoring problems on this team we can't have them scoring 4 goals every night and expect to win.
Stoner Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 The Versus guys were talking about Myers' struggles this season and mentioned that Lindy told them he had considered benching Myers a few times this season. A bit of news -- at least I hadn't heard about it. Anyone?
Robviously Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 The Versus guys were talking about Myers' struggles this season and mentioned that Lindy told them he had considered benching Myers a few times this season. A bit of news -- at least I hadn't heard about it. Anyone? All part of Ruff's awesome policy of taking talented young players and helping them squander their potential and descend into mediocrity.
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