SabresGameNight Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 Currently, there is no rivalry. A few years ago I could see it but now it's dead. For me, at least, the whole thing started because the Sabres lost in the '06 Conference Final. As anyone knows, the Sabres never get a shred of luck when it comes to the playoffs. They would have won that series against Carolina in 6 games or less had they not lost their top 4 defensemen, HELL they would have won game 7 if they hadn't lost Jay McKee to a staph infection! Who gets a staph infection the night before a game 7 in the playoffs!? Has to be the first time ever. So the Sabres get the shaft yet again on a golden chance at the cup while a team like Carolina, which should have lost to Buffalo, makes their way to the final and faces a #8 seed in Edmonton. Talk about Lady Luck, if only Buffalo could have that kind of luck. They would have several cups by now.
Stoner Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 Currently, there is no rivalry. A few years ago I could see it but now it's dead. For me, at least, the whole thing started because the Sabres lost in the '06 Conference Final. As anyone knows, the Sabres never get a shred of luck when it comes to the playoffs. They would have won that series against Carolina in 6 games or less had they not lost their top 4 defensemen, HELL they would have won game 7 if they hadn't lost Jay McKee to a staph infection! Who gets a staph infection the night before a game 7 in the playoffs!? Has to be the first time ever. So the Sabres get the shaft yet again on a golden chance at the cup while a team like Carolina, which should have lost to Buffalo, makes their way to the final and faces a #8 seed in Edmonton. Talk about Lady Luck, if only Buffalo could have that kind of luck. They would have several cups by now. :thumbdown: Jay McKee would have prevented Miller's meltdown?
shrader Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 I said I wasn't looking for trouble in my first thread, but perhaps I'll be a bit risky this time around (although I don't plan to throw around any hate in this thread, either). Many people on our message board are claiming that there's no rivalry between our two teams. On the ice, that may be true... but off the ice? I think it's well-documented that our two fan bases have had bad blood in the past. To me, that's all you need for a rivalry. Look at Carolina-Duke... there's been times where our players have actually hung out with Duke players and gotten along with them real well. But that will never, ever happen with the fan bases. They flat out hate each other. So, it's apparent that the majority of our fan base doesn't see Canes-Sabres as a rivalry... what about you guys? I'm interested to hear your side of it. It always comes down to the few people who were actually at those games in question back in 2006. No one else really cares. Sure, some fans will be annoyed at the sweeping generalizations that fans on both side made based on those interactions, but at the end of the day, they can't be bothered by the events that they will never take part in. I for one am only interested in the stuff that I can see first hand, so for now, I'll stick with the issues I have for all the Massholes up here in Boston.
sweeper Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 In 1960 Buffalo had 600,000 people, now its under 300,000 I believe. The steel mills built at the turn of the century were obsolete and closed; commerce, the life blood of the city since 1825, was hurt because of the opening of St. Lawrence Seaway to ship traffic and then came the free trade agreements which crushed local manufacturing. Even though Wells Fargo and M & T bank stared here we do not have any major financial sector and the Federal government does not throw major dollars around here like it does in, say Texas. And the cold doesn't exactly help attract businesses. The invention of the air conditioner really created a dramtic demographic shift in the country While the population of the actual city of Buffalo has been more than halved over the last 50 years, Erie County has stayed relatively steady. But, that tends to cause "brain drain", as the more educated tend to migrate towards better paying jobs. What we're left is slow/no job growth. No growth = no booming building trade, because no new businesses are around to lease new building space, etc. And whomever posted it already is right, the air conditioner was invented here. Ironic, eh? The Pierce-Arrow company invented it for their old plant on Elmwood for those oppressive humidity days in the summer.
MattPie Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 It always comes down to the few people who were actually at those games in question back in 2006. No one else really cares. Sure, some fans will be annoyed at the sweeping generalizations that fans on both side made based on those interactions, but at the end of the day, they can't be bothered by the events that they will never take part in. I for one am only interested in the stuff that I can see first hand, so for now, I'll stick with the issues I have for all the Massholes up here in Boston. I was at Game 1. I didn't see any serious anarchy, just some good-natured ribbing and whatnot. When I pulled in, the guy in the next to me said something like, "y'all sure drove a long way to see your team lose!". I only replied, "I live near Philly now, so it was only 7 or 8 hours.". FWIW, I saw more anger at a Flyers/Sabres regular season game in 2006.
X. Benedict Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 I've always wondered... why are there so many Buffalo natives here in Raleigh? It's a similar deal with people from Pittsburgh... I'd even say their natives outnumber yours here. I mean, Raleigh is a nice place and all, but there's got to be some reason for this. Besides the weather, of course. :lol: Hmmmm.....your fathers taken by the silver beards, and their most reverend heads dash'd to the walls, your naked infants spitted upon pikes,whiles the mad mothers with their howls confused..........that and heady murder, spoil, and villany sums it up.
SabresGameNight Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 :thumbdown: Jay McKee would have prevented Miller's meltdown? :doh: I dunno, perhaps you don't believe that your best shot blocking and experienced defenseman would have made an impact? Miller meltdown? I'm not even sure where that is coming from.
Stoner Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 :doh: I dunno, perhaps you don't believe that your best shot blocking and experienced defenseman would have made an impact? Miller meltdown? I'm not even sure where that is coming from. You wouldn't call three goals against in the third period of Game 7 a meltdown?
X. Benedict Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 You wouldn't call three goals against in the third period of Game 7 a meltdown? It wasn't pretty for the Rochester blue-line either.
MattPie Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 It wasn't pretty for the Rochester blue-line either. IIRC, one of the pairings' NHL games could be counted on one hand.
SwampD Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 IIRC, one of the pairings' NHL games could be counted on one hand. Wasn't that Nathen Peaeaschcses' first ever game in the NHL?
X. Benedict Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 Wasn't that Nathen Peaeaschcses' first ever game in the NHL? I wonder what Rory and Dougy Janik are up to right now?
korab rules Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 I wonder what Rory and Dougy Janik are up to right now? Janik since that fateful day: 2006-07 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 75 2 9 11 53 1 0 0 0 0 2007-08 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 61 1 3 4 45 -- -- -- -- -- 2008-09 Dallas Stars NHL 13 0 1 1 2 -- -- -- -- -- 2008-09 Rockford IceHogs AHL 4 0 2 2 4 -- -- -- -- -- 2008-09 Montreal Canadiens NHL 2 0 0 0 2 -- -- -- -- -- 2008-09 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 18 0 5 5 10 6 0 0 0 7 2009-10 Detroit Red Wings NHL 13 0 2 2 18 -- -- -- -- -- 2009-10 Grand Rapids Griffins AHL 66 6 31 37 84 -- -- -- -- -- 2010-11 Detroit Red Wings* NHL 7 0 0 0 7 2010-11 Grand Rapids Griffins AHL 26 3 4 7 27 Fitzy since that fateful day: 2006-07 Vancouver Canucks NHL 58 1 6 7 46 3 0 0 0 6 2007-08 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 19 0 1 1 11 -- -- -- -- -- 2007-08 Philadelphia Phantoms AHL 19 1 4 5 24 12 0 2 2 11 2008-09 Rochester Americans AHL 46 4 10 14 37 -- -- -- -- -- 2009-10 Rochester Americans AHL 44 0 6 6 37 2 0 0 0 0 Long time fitzy fans will recall that he almost made the all-star game in 06-07. Now, he seems to have fallen off the hockey map. Or at least Hockey DB's map. Hard as it is to believe, neither was able to duplicate the success that made them a top line pairing in game 7 of the Eastern Conference Championship series.
gocanes88 Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Posted January 20, 2011 That article was an interesting read... although I'm rather irritated by the way it was written. The writer did everything but use the stupid, overused "redneck NASCAR-loving hicks" stereotype. I always get tired of that one... especially because I'm completely the opposite of that. Not to mention that we have some very knowledgeable fans at our games. You'd be surprised how many there are. :doh: I dunno, perhaps you don't believe that your best shot blocking and experienced defenseman would have made an impact? Miller meltdown? I'm not even sure where that is coming from. You wouldn't call three goals against in the third period of Game 7 a meltdown? I've started a civil war! In a merged thread, no less!
spndnchz Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 I've started a civil war! In a merged thread, no less! Hide ur woman. And ur babies!
X. Benedict Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 Hard as it is to believe, neither was able to duplicate the success that made them a top line pairing in game 7 of the Eastern Conference Championship series. That kind of success usually only comes with major traffic accidents or train collisions. :lol:
shrader Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 Hide ur woman. And ur babies! I love how the baby thing has basically become official now. I pushed for that one to be added to the list for years.
MattPie Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 Wasn't that Nathen Peaeaschcses' first ever game in the NHL? It was someone's, I just can't remember who. He was paired up with the guy he played with in Rochester, who played the previous game or two in the series after someone else got hurt. So to sum up, you had the top two D pairings from your AHL team, and the remaining two NHL D-men (Soupy and someone), who normally didn't play together, playing D in Game 7 of the conference championship. :wallbash:
sweeper Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 It was someone's, I just can't remember who. He was paired up with the guy he played with in Rochester, who played the previous game or two in the series after someone else got hurt. So to sum up, you had the top two D pairings from your AHL team, and the remaining two NHL D-men (Soupy and someone), who normally didn't play together, playing D in Game 7 of the conference championship. :wallbash: It was Campbell and Lydman. And yes that was Paetsch's first NHL game. Janik, Jillson, and Fitzpatrick were the other 3.
X. Benedict Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 It was Campbell and Lydman. And yes that was Paetsch's first NHL game. Janik, Jillson, and Fitzpatrick were the other 3. Jillson! I was scratching my brain all last night for that name.
Claude_Verret Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 A few things.... Game 1 ECF 2006. I was at that game and game 5. Rowdy Sabres fans? Yes. Any worse than Leaf fans at HSBC? No. End of story. Janik, Paetsch, Jillson and Fitzpatrick. And game 7 is Miller's fault, WTF? Tallinder was playing lights out when he went down, he never returned to be half the player he was in the 2006 playoffs. And don't forget how the Canes injury luck continued into the finals, as Conn Smythe favorite Roloson goes down in game 1. The article posted in this thread highlights my main gripe with "Caniacs" Perhaps it's no surprise then that so many of these expats have been rallying around the Sabres. Out of nearly two dozen nouveau North Carolinians contacted for this story, only three, without shame, dubbed themselves "Caniacs." The majority of the fan base is made of of either full time or part time team swappers. It's pathetic. For a expat-WNYer to bail on the Sabres is inexcusable. The ticket sales for the 2006 finals does tend to get exagerrated. The games here sold out, but you could buy a ticket at 2 PM the afternoon of game one. I went to the website myself and had them in my shopping cart. Finally, this is indeed a great place to live and raise a family, but I'd still take Buffalo with it's messed up politics, government, taxes etc. if I could get a simliar position to support my family.
IKnowPhysics Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 Carolina fans may dislike Buffalo fans, but do Buffalo fans dislike Carolina fans? IMO Sabres fans really could care less about fans of the Canes. Ain't no rivalry among fans if the fans of one side are ambivalent about the fans of the other. 'sides, there's only a couple, three Canes fans around anyway, right? :death: :devil: :nana: Nailed it. I hate the Canes, but I don't have the same hatred for that one Canes fan. They don't have the intensity or numbers to gather hatred like the pole-smoking Senators fans, the rabid ######-mouthed Flyers fans, the Cindy-humping Shitsburgh fans, the classless-in-any-situation Devils fans, the constantly-wribiting Montreal fans, or the lovable drunk Leafs fans. It's the same now that I live in LA. All of the Kings fans are sober, somewhat well-to-do, non-hockey players, who watch a boring powderpuff non-playoff team. The bars around the arena pregame and post-game are empty. There's no drinking/tailgating culture or sense of community. The Kings are not a religion that incites alcohol-fueled rituals or rage, celebration, and depression- they're merely something to watch once in a while. Off topic: I spent two years looking for job opportunities in Buffalo with no luck. LA called up and said that I needed to be there. I live on the beach and my job is tits, but I'd move back to Buffalo for a similar job opportunity without blinking.
shrader Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 Off topic: I spent two years looking for job opportunities in Buffalo with no luck. LA called up and said that I needed to be there. I live on the beach and my job is tits, but I'd move back to Buffalo for a similar job opportunity without blinking. Same industry as korab?
Claude_Verret Posted January 21, 2011 Report Posted January 21, 2011 Nailed it. I hate the Canes, but I don't have the same hatred for that one Canes fan. They don't have the intensity or numbers to gather hatred like the pole-smoking Senators fans, the rabid ######-mouthed Flyers fans, the Cindy-humping Shitsburgh fans, the classless-in-any-situation Devils fans, the constantly-wribiting Montreal fans, or the lovable drunk Leafs fans. You should hate them because a lot of those Canes fans become Sens, Flyers, Pittsburgh, Devil etc. fans when they come to town. IMO, a team swapping fan base deserves way more derision than obnoxious or classless ones that are at least loyal.
Claude_Verret Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 And here you have it. Typical cane fan keeping that Pittsburgh jersey handy for when they come to town. Link
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