gocanes88 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 I've always wondered... why are there so many Buffalo natives here in Raleigh? It's a similar deal with people from Pittsburgh... I'd even say their natives outnumber yours here. I mean, Raleigh is a nice place and all, but there's got to be some reason for this. Besides the weather, of course. :lol:
SDS Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 Taxes and a lack of jobs in most industries...
Corp000085 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 The RTP has a lot to do with it. Buffalo had traditionally been an industrial town with medical/teaching colleges (UB, buff state respectively), and a prestigious technical college 60 miles east (RIT). Lots of those folks get jobs here. Plus, we like to rape and pillage your women.
deluca67 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 The RTP has a lot to do with it. Buffalo had traditionally been an industrial town with medical/teaching colleges (UB, buff state respectively), and a prestigious technical college 60 miles east (RIT). Lots of those folks get jobs here. Plus, we like to rape and pillage your women. "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women. "
Claude_Verret Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 Taxes and a lack of jobs in most industries... This. I think I can safely speak for the majority of WNY transplants and say we never would have left or would go back if there were better opportunities there.
carpandean Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women. " Arnie!
Eleven Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 This. I think I can safely speak for the majority of WNY transplants and say we never would have left or would go back if there were better opportunities there. You should check periodically. I came back after ten years and I'm really happy here. Well, not today, with the weather, but generally. But yeah, gowhalers88, generally you'll find tons of Buffalo and Pittsburgh transplants from Baltimore down to Atlanta. Especially teachers. For some reason, there are some states that LOVE NYS-trained teachers.
UncleWally Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 I've always wondered... why are there so many Buffalo natives here in Raleigh? It's a similar deal with people from Pittsburgh... I'd even say their natives outnumber yours here. I mean, Raleigh is a nice place and all, but there's got to be some reason for this. Besides the weather, of course. :lol: I can't stand you Raleigh Durham Airport!!!
bob_sauve28 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 In 1960 Buffalo had 600,000 people, now its under 300,000 I believe. The steel mills built at the turn of the century were obsolete and closed; commerce, the life blood of the city since 1825, was hurt because of the opening of St. Lawrence Seaway to ship traffic and then came the free trade agreements which crushed local manufacturing. Even though Wells Fargo and M & T bank stared here we do not have any major financial sector and the Federal government does not throw major dollars around here like it does in, say Texas. And the cold doesn't exactly help attract businesses. The invention of the air conditioner really created a dramtic demographic shift in the country
JoDo Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 This. I think I can safely speak for the majority of WNY transplants and say we never would have left or would go back if there were better opportunities there. My life is pretty much out west now, my parents and sister live here as well. But half of me would go back in a minute if the opportunity arose. When I go back to visit I feel like I am a lost alien back on the mother ship.
Eleven Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 I can't stand you Raleigh Durham Airport!!! The airport isn't so bad; it at least has more to do than does ours. But that city--wow, boring.
cdexchange Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 The RTP has a lot to do with it. Buffalo had traditionally been an industrial town with medical/teaching colleges (UB, buff state respectively), and a prestigious technical college 60 miles east (RIT). Lots of those folks get jobs here. Plus, we like to rape and pillage your women. You forgot the baby-eating. :lol:
UncleWally Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 The airport isn't so bad; it at least has more to do than does ours. But that city--wow, boring. It's nascar'd to the hilt and only 2 spots to enjoy an adult beverage. <_<
deluca67 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 You forgot the baby-eating. :lol: Buffalo-Style babies are tasty. The Franks Hot Sauce really brings out the flavor. :rolleyes:
bunomatic Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Buffalo-Style babies are tasty. The Franks Hot Sauce really brings out the flavor. :rolleyes: Not to mention the great commercials :thumbsup:
gocanes88 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Posted January 16, 2011 The RTP has a lot to do with it. I figured that was one reason. RTP brings a lot of people here, it seems... the medical part has driven a ton of people from India to move here. Plus, we like to rape and pillage your women. I've noticed this more than once on here... what's the inside joke? But that city--wow, boring. I very much disagree. Trust me, I know boring... I lived in Fayetteville for my whole life until a year ago, and if any of you are familiar with it (perhaps some of you know about Fort Bragg, which is next door), you know that it's a very boring place to live. Nice people, but its nickname is Fayettenam. That's all you need to know. Up here, though... it seems like everybody's buzzing, and potential is all over the place. I mean, it got some of you guys here, didn't it?
gocanes88 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Posted January 16, 2011 I said I wasn't looking for trouble in my first thread, but perhaps I'll be a bit risky this time around (although I don't plan to throw around any hate in this thread, either). Many people on our message board are claiming that there's no rivalry between our two teams. On the ice, that may be true... but off the ice? I think it's well-documented that our two fan bases have had bad blood in the past. To me, that's all you need for a rivalry. Look at Carolina-Duke... there's been times where our players have actually hung out with Duke players and gotten along with them real well. But that will never, ever happen with the fan bases. They flat out hate each other. So, it's apparent that the majority of our fan base doesn't see Canes-Sabres as a rivalry... what about you guys? I'm interested to hear your side of it.
inkman Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 While I realize there is major hate on the behalf of many Sabre fans, I've never understood it post 2007.
inkman Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 I've noticed this more than once on here... what's the inside joke? During their ECF playoff, many Carolinians made accusations of Sabres fans behavior during their visit to tobacco country. It started with trash talking, beer bottle throwing, fighting and escalated into the hyperbole of raping and baby eating.
Sabre Dance Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 I said I wasn't looking for trouble in my first thread, but perhaps I'll be a bit risky this time around (although I don't plan to throw around any hate in this thread, either). Many people on our message board are claiming that there's no rivalry between our two teams. On the ice, that may be true... but off the ice? I think it's well-documented that our two fan bases have had bad blood in the past. To me, that's all you need for a rivalry. Look at Carolina-Duke... there's been times where our players have actually hung out with Duke players and gotten along with them real well. But that will never, ever happen with the fan bases. They flat out hate each other. So, it's apparent that the majority of our fan base doesn't see Canes-Sabres as a rivalry... what about you guys? I'm interested to hear your side of it. It may have its roots as far back as when the team was still in Hartford. While the Whalers were never awful, they were also never that great but they always seemed to find a way to beat the Sabres in games where the Sabres really needed the points. Once the team moved south, I think whatever rivalry there was would have faded, but then came the 2006 Eastern Conference finals. While people here in Buffalo were trying to mug scalpers just to get a ticket to any of the games here in Buffalo, there were stories of car dealers in Raleigh giving away tickets to the series if you took a car for a test drive. We Sabres faithful could not comprehend how Raleigh was not coming out to support a team that was one series away from playing for a major sports championship. (Of course, many Sabre fans scooped up the unsold tickets for the games in Raleigh and the rude behavior of some of them was scorned by Hurricanes fans. There was some hyperbole on both sides, but that is where the fan rivalry got started). When the 'Canes went to the Stanley Cup finals and the still couldn't sell out the arena, a lot of Sabre fans (myself included) felt that somehow a team that lacked so much in fan support did not deserve to win the Stanley Cup. Of course, that's not how it works but many of us couldn't help feeling that way (it still irks some of us that a team like the Sabres has been in the league for 40 seasons and hasn't won a Cup while "newcomers" like the Hurricanes and the Lightning won one before a lot of people in their communities knew that they had an NHL team.). Of course, the 'Canes fell on hard times only a short time after their Cup run, and that has cooled off the "rivalry" quite a bit. Also many players from that Hurricanes championship team are now gone from the team, and that has had an impact as well.....
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Sabres fans will find plenty of allies in Carolina Hurricanes country is home to thousands of WNY transplants By JERRY ZREMSKI BUFFALO NEWS NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT 5/20/2006 RALEIGH, N.C. - From the rafters of the RBC Center to the great bank towers of Charlotte and all through the vast expanses of leafy sprawl surrounding them both, you'll hear a surprisingly loud cry this afternoon. "LET'S GO BUFFALO!" Now no one expects it to be as loud as the cheers for the Carolina Hurricanes, whose fans have made the RBC Center anything but a bastion of Southern gentility. But it will be loud enough to make the thousands of Sabres fans who now live here feel at home in this fast-growing region, which wins all sorts of accolades for its charms, even though many natives apparently don't know the difference between a puck and a praline. Plenty of those Buffalo-area expatriates are expected to flock to the RBC Center - and to nearby sports bars like Buffalo Brothers Pizza and Wing and Blinco's - as the NHL's Eastern Conference finals get under way. "It's going to be crazy in here," said Matt Gray, a Batavia native who owns Buffalo Brothers along with his high-school buddy, Matt Boyd. "It'll be split, but we'll have a large number of Sabres fans." There will be a large number of Sabres fans everywhere in North Carolina today, and not just because countless people will likely make the 700-mile trek from Buffalo. For the five years ending in 2004, more Erie County taxpayers moved to Mecklenburg County, N.C. - that is, Charlotte and its close-in suburbs than any other county outside of New York State. Along with the 1,042 taxpayers who moved to Mecklenburg County, IRS figures show that another 499 left Erie County for Raleigh-Durham, which is 170 miles northeast of Charlotte. "A lot of people came here because the economy is better here," Boyd said. "They never would have left if they didn't feel they had to. Everybody is looking for something that will remind them of home." Perhaps it's no surprise then that so many of these expats have been rallying around the Sabres. Out of nearly two dozen nouveau North Carolinians contacted for this story, only three, without shame, dubbed themselves "Caniacs." More commonly, these folks are approaching the series with the wisdom and restraint of James Lundy, an attorney from Buffalo who moved to Charlotte seven years ago. "MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, COME 2 P.M. ON SATURDAY IN RALEIGH THERE IS A STAMPEDE BREWING FOR ALL YOU "CANIACS' (is that name a joke or what?!?!?)," Lundy wrote in an e-mail. "Keep believing in 'em, Buffalo, they are the REAL DEAL!!! Lord Stanley I hope you are ready for a trip down Chippewa Street, cuz that is your next stop!!!" In comparison, the "Caniacs" seem, well, rather sedated. While the Sabres immediately sold out all of their home games against Carolina, some high-priced tickets were still available for today's game in Raleigh as of midday Friday. "I don't have an explanation," said Adam Gold, program director for WRBZ, Raleigh's sports radio station. "It's not for a lack of interest, although there probably are more hard-core hockey fans in Buffalo." The Hurricanes originally restricted ticket sales to fans from nearby states, but lifted that ban in midweek as sales lagged. And that gave Sabres fans from all over the country the chance to join the expats in what's likely to be a rowdy attempt to nullify the Canes' home ice advantage. "I could see a quarter to a third of the fans being Sabres fans," said Jim Blinco, a Lewiston native who now owns Blinco's Sports Restaurant and Bar in Raleigh. Alas, Blinco won't be one of them. A quarter-century after leaving Western New York for North Carolina, he has adopted the Canes as his team. And given the way he and other expats rave about the Raleigh-Durham region, you have to wonder if others will end up doing the same. Some go on at length about the low taxes and the plentiful jobs, and others inexplicably crow about Raleigh's headline-grabbing four-season weather ("N. Carolina Capital Disabled by Inch of Snow" the Washington Post, Jan. 21, 2005). The Raleigh-Durham region has also proved to be remarkably popular with magazine editors, who have named it among the nation's best places to live, best places to work and best places to go to school. Raleigh-Durham has not, however, won any awards for its hockey knowledge. For decades, North Carolina's sports culture revolved around college basketball, NASCAR and . . . college basketball. And since the Canes arrived in the state in 1997, "there's been a big learning curve," said Blinco's brother, Ed, who recently moved to the region. Alan H. DeLisle, Durham's economic development director, learned that the hard way when he used a hockey metaphor in a meeting with another city official. "I said: "We have to skate to where the puck is going to be rather than where it is,' " said DeLisle, a longtime aide to former Buffalo Mayor Anthony M. Masiello. "He looked at me like: What are you talking about?" Conceding that the lack of hockey smarts is a bit of a civic issue here, the Raleigh News and Observer has been running a feature called "Expand Your Hockey Vocabulary," which defines confounding hockey terms like "pull the goalie" and "traffic." Then again, it should be noted that Western New Yorkers are not fully versed in Carolina culture, either. After all, we've seen the headlines in this very paper - "Ophelia lashes North Carolina" (Sept. 15, 2005), "Frustration Rises as Residents Struggle to Recover from Isabel" (Sept. 21, 2003) - and we wonder how anyone in the world could ever root for Hurricanes.
Weave Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Carolina fans may dislike Buffalo fans, but do Buffalo fans dislike Carolina fans? IMO Sabres fans really could care less about fans of the Canes. Ain't no rivalry among fans if the fans of one side are ambivalent about the fans of the other. 'sides, there's only a couple, three Canes fans around anyway, right? :death: :devil: :nana:
nobody Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 In 1960 Buffalo had 600,000 people, now its under 300,000 I believe. The steel mills built at the turn of the century were obsolete and closed; commerce, the life blood of the city since 1825, was hurt because of the opening of St. Lawrence Seaway to ship traffic and then came the free trade agreements which crushed local manufacturing. Even though Wells Fargo and M & T bank stared here we do not have any major financial sector and the Federal government does not throw major dollars around here like it does in, say Texas. And the cold doesn't exactly help attract businesses. The invention of the air conditioner really created a dramtic demographic shift in the country The modern air conditioner was invented in Buffalo.
bob_sauve28 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 The modern air conditioner was invented in Buffalo. :thumbsup:
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