Mike Oxhurtz Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I still can't get over the people that boo Drury & Briere and say FU to Briere. You're acting like Briere did a Willis McGahee and talked a ton of trash about the city. The Sabres had a Stanley Cup caliber team in 05-06 and the Sabres Front Office did absolutely nothing to not only take that next step in winning a championship, but did nothing to keep it together. You don't wait until a players contract is up to try and negotiate a new contract, because other teams drive up the price in trying to acquire good players. And you're gonna boo players like Drury & Briere, who were good players while they were here, loved the city, had good things to say about the city and the fans and wanted to stay here. "BOO" and "FU" to you & the Sabres FO!!
X. Benedict Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I still can't get over the people that boo Drury & Briere and say FU to Briere. You're acting like Briere did a Willis McGahee and talked a ton of trash about the city. The Sabres front office had a Stanley Cup caliber team in 05-06 and did absolutely nothing to not only take that next step in winning a championship, but did nothing to keep it together. And you're gonna boo players like Drury & Briere, who were good players while they were here, loved the city, had good things to say about the city and the fans and wanted to stay here. "BOO" and "FU" to you & the Sabres FO!! Of course they loved the city and the team. They just loved other cities and money more. ;)
nfreeman Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Philly at that time was a trainwreck and Briere was part of the solution. They are considered an elite team because they've won the cup and have a handson owner that cares. So we're not that far off eh? Get rid of the current owner,management team and general 'rot' of status quo that permeates this franchise and we could be considered elite as well. we all know that even elite teams have down years. And I wasn't talking about the sabres fans fitness levels,i was commenting on fans at the flyers rink. Different topic. I agree with the bolded statement. There is no reason that the Sabres couldn't step well up in class of organization.
Mike Oxhurtz Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Of course they loved the city and the team. They just loved other cities and money more. ;) So, you're saying if your boss gave you your annual review and you got a less than expected raise (or no raise at all) that you wouldn't look for a new job with a higher salary?
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 :huh: Say what? Quinn went to the NHL to insinuate that Briere had an agreement with Philly before free agency. Investigators came to the homes of friends of Briere and his wife and pressured them for information. We are talking 30 yo soccer moms having the men in black suits badger them. The story went public in the Buff News et al. Briere wanted to be in Buffalo. It was made clear to him that he would not be around. His family loved it here and were not happy having to leave. The best part is Darcy and Quinn admitting Briere was never part of the plan going forward when Danny was slumping and hurt in Philly. Yet Quinn found the need to go and harass people minding their own business to stick it to Briere. These are some sick #####.
darksabre Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I still like Danny Briere. F*ck all the haters.
carpandean Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Quinn went to the NHL to insinuate that Briere had an agreement with Philly before free agency. Investigators came to the homes of friends of Briere and his wife and pressured them for information. We are talking 30 yo soccer moms having the men in black suits badger them. The story went public in the Buff News et al. Briere wanted to be in Buffalo. It was made clear to him that he would not be around. His family loved it here and were not happy having to leave. The best part is Darcy and Quinn admitting Briere was never part of the plan going forward when Danny was slumping and hurt in Philly. Yet Quinn found the need to go and harass people minding their own business to stick it to Briere. These are some sick #####. All the rest of the fiasco aside, hypothetically if Briere and Philly did negotiate prior to July 1, then they violated the CBA. That would mean that they would be punished (good for the Sabres, as an opposing team) and the Sabres probably would have been compensated (obviously good for the Sabres.) So, if true, then the Sabres would have been doing the correct thing by reporting it. Did the Sabres send the investigators or did the league as part of their investigation? Again, not trying to excuse how the whole situation was handled by the Sabres - it wasn't handled well - but rather just poiting out that if they had a legititmate reason to believe that a deal was negotiated ahead, then they should have reported it. However, if their only evidence was that the Flyers and Briere had a big deal done right after the deadline, then that wouldn't cut it; they'd have to have more than that. For the record: while I was in favor of Drury over Briere, if it had to be just one, I never felt that Danny did anything wrong. He wanted to stay, the Sabres didn't really make a big effort to have that happen, so he left through the normal FA process. He was even gracious after leaving, so I've never had a problem with him at all.
SwampD Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I still can't get over the people that boo Drury & Briere and say FU to Briere. You're acting like Briere did a Willis McGahee and talked a ton of trash about the city. The Sabres had a Stanley Cup caliber team in 05-06 and the Sabres Front Office did absolutely nothing to not only take that next step in winning a championship, but did nothing to keep it together. You don't wait until a players contract is up to try and negotiate a new contract, because other teams drive up the price in trying to acquire good players. And you're gonna boo players like Drury & Briere, who were good players while they were here, loved the city, had good things to say about the city and the fans and wanted to stay here. "BOO" and "FU" to you & the Sabres FO!! Not this. Of course they loved the city and the team. They just loved other cities and money more. ;) This. Quinn went to the NHL to insinuate that Briere had an agreement with Philly before free agency. Investigators came to the homes of friends of Briere and his wife and pressured them for information. We are talking 30 yo soccer moms having the men in black suits badger them. The story went public in the Buff News et al. Briere wanted to be in Buffalo. It was made clear to him that he would not be around. His family loved it here and were not happy having to leave. The best part is Darcy and Quinn admitting Briere was never part of the plan going forward when Danny was slumping and hurt in Philly. Yet Quinn found the need to go and harass people minding their own business to stick it to Briere. These are some sick #####. Was it Regier and Quinn like you stated or was it the NHL. And considering he signed 1 min after free agency started, he probably did have an agreement and should have been investigated. I still like Danny Briere. F*ck all the haters. I stand by my post. ###### him,.. and ###### you too. :D
X. Benedict Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 So, you're saying if your boss gave you your annual review and you got a less than expected raise (or no raise at all) that you wouldn't look for a new job with a higher salary? No, I'm saying: Love for team and city in the professional athlete is qualified by moolah, lucre, and tenure. I don't necessarily see public posturing by pro athletes as disingenuous, just meaningless.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 All the rest of the fiasco aside, hypothetically if Briere and Philly did negotiate prior to July 1, then they violated the CBA. That would mean that they would be punished (good for the Sabres, as an opposing team) and the Sabres probably would have been compensated (obviously good for the Sabres.) So, if true, then the Sabres would have been doing the correct thing by reporting it. Did the Sabres send the investigators or did the league as part of their investigation? Again, not trying to excuse how the whole situation was handled by the Sabres - it wasn't handled well - but rather just poiting out that if they had a legititmate reason to believe that a deal was negotiated ahead, then they should have reported it. However, if their only evidence was that the Flyers and Briere had a big deal done right after the deadline, then that wouldn't cut it; they'd have to have more than that. For the record: while I was in favor of Drury over Briere, if it had to be just one, I never felt that Danny did anything wrong. He wanted to stay, the Sabres didn't really make a big effort to have that happen, so he left through the normal FA process. He was even gracious after leaving, so I've never had a problem with him at all. Can't win on the ice, so win in the courtroom.....got it. Be careful driving home. If you are doing 56 in that 55....it would be the right thing for an officer to pull you over and make sure he collects that municipal revenue from you to support the hard working taxpayers. I would hate to see a scoundrel as yourself get away with breaking the law, and it is in my best interest to see that you are properly fined. And since you are proven to be a lawbreaker, I think a warrant is in order to search your house and interview your family to make sure no other unlawful activities are taking place under your watch. It would be the right thing to do afterall. ;)
Mike Oxhurtz Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Not this. This. Was it Regier and Quinn like you stated or was it the NHL. And considering he signed 1 min after free agency started, he probably did have an agreement and should have been investigated. I stand by my post. ###### him,.. and ###### you too. :D Hey Larry, go have yourself a nice glass of "shut the hell up!!!"
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 No, I'm saying: Love for team and city in the professional athlete is qualified by moolah, lucre, and tenure. I don't necessarily see public posturing by pro athletes as disingenuous, just meaningless. Come on! A hometown discount of 10...even 20%, MAYBE. But we were talking 80% more cash total and 40% more on average. This after Briere was willing to play for the exact same contract the Sabres offered a year before, but Darcy balked for $500,000. $24,000,000 or $500,000 Who is the cheapskate with no loyalty ??????????????
X. Benedict Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Come on! A hometown discount of 10...even 20%, MAYBE. But we were talking 80% more cash total and 40% more on average. This after Briere was willing to play for the exact same contract the Sabres offered a year before, but Darcy balked for $500,000. $24,000,000 or $500,000 Who is the cheapskate with no loyalty ?????????????? I'm loathe to rehash this.....I don't blame Drury and Briere for leaving at all....they play hockey for money and the Sabres failed to pony... What hockey player doesn't love the team he plays for during a contract year?
Robviously Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I'm loathe to rehash this.....I don't blame Drury and Briere for leaving at all....they play hockey for money and the Sabres failed to pony... What hockey player doesn't love the team he plays for during a contract year? Mike Grier in 2006? [i'm still wondering what he knew or thought he knew that he would leave after that run and say he didn't think the Sabres were serious about winning. Very odd.]
TheFunPolice Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I worked with a good friend of Briere and his wife, who was also one of his neighbors. Simple put: his wife and family did NOT want to leave. They LOVED it here. Danny did NOT want to leave. It broke Danny's heart to leave the Sabres and Buffalo. This I KNOW 100%. The Sabres chose Drury thinking they could only re-sign one of the two, and they totally botched it. It's not Danny's fault that the Sabres sent over an insulting offer at the last second that was half of his market value. Why even defend Quinn? He will soon be an ex-Sabre as well, so there's really no reason to defend his total INCOMPETENCE. He single-handedly ruined a Stanley Cup contender in ONE DAY. Nice work, Larry. I don't support when it gets personal, but he deserves ALL the criticism he takes for somehow ruining the most exciting team in Buffalo sports since the 90's Bills. And it all happened in a single DAY! That takes some doing. One thing I will say for Regier: he was EXTREMELY unhappy that Quinn/Tommy G would not go along with paying Briere/Drury. That was NOT his decision, but you would NEVER hear him say so because he is as loyal of a man as they come, even when it hurts his own image. If you can stomach it, go back and watch that press conference again. Regier is CLEARLY doing all he can to say "this was NOT MY CALL."
matter2003 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 ###### him. If he wanted to stay here he would have. I hope that good, exciting team he's talking about beats his Flyers in the ECFs next year. That's not on him at all. Sabres EASILY could have locked him down during the season with an extension for the same dollar amount they offered before FA started. He said repeatedly that he would have signed it without hesitation, and that he felt "slapped in the face" by the team and the way the whole thing was handled, which I completely agree with.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I'm loathe to rehash this.....I don't blame Drury and Briere for leaving at all....they play hockey for money and the Sabres failed to pony... What hockey player doesn't love the team he plays for during a contract year? I don't think Drury loved being a Sabre. Drury is a lone-wolf type....sort of like Gilmour. I know Briere and family liked it here and all things BEING EQUAL....would have stayed. It wasn't even an option as he knew he was a goner before July 1st. And I think it is just the right time to rehash all this. When you live in an abusive house for so long, you tend to accept outrageous things as a normality, and over time are not affected by actions that a rational person would see as hideous. With new ownership on the horizon, the time to reflect is now. If the Sabres were a country, the fans it's citizens, and Quinn/Darcy dictator and general.....right about now is the time that those guys would be fleeing halfway across the globe before they would be hung by the masses.
X. Benedict Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Mike Grier in 2006? [i'm still wondering what he knew or thought he knew that he would leave after that run and say he didn't think the Sabres were serious about winning. Very odd.] I know he chirped out the door....but I don't think it was before July 1. 2006. I took that as just being loyal to former teammates in negotiations - the Sabres did spend to the cap that year. But for all that..........I loved Mike Grier a hellava lot more than Jakub Klepis...who I used to watch in Juniors with the Winterhawks with Gaustad. :lol:
X. Benedict Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I don't think Drury loved being a Sabre. Drury is a lone-wolf type....sort of like Gilmour. I know Briere and family liked it here and all things BEING EQUAL....would have stayed. It wasn't even an option as he knew he was a goner before July 1st. I don't disagree, here. But I do think that Briere's 2006 arbitration was a clue about his postures about discounts.
LabattBlue Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Wanting to re-sign Drury + kicking Briere to the curb + misreading Drury's willingness to stay + begging Briere to stay at the last minute = 3 playoff misses in 4 years(including this year). TP taking over may be the only reason I renew my season tickets for next season. As someone said the other day and I believe I have said in the past, this is just not a very likeable team. Anything less than OSP/LQ/DR/LR all being gone by the start of next season(along with some serious roster turnover) will be a MAJOR disappointment in my eyes.
Buffalo Wings Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Was it Regier and Quinn like you stated or was it the NHL. And considering he signed 1 min after free agency started, he probably did have an agreement and should have been investigated. If every instance of signing immediately after midnight (when I say 'immediately', I mean anytime between midnight and sunrise) was investigated, then the NHL would be inundated with investigations like this every year. Yeah, it's fishy, but it happens. How is the league supposed to stop this?
SwampD Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 If every instance of signing immediately after midnight (when I say 'immediately', I mean anytime between midnight and sunrise) was investigated, then the NHL would be inundated with investigations like this every year. Yeah, it's fishy, but it happens. How is the league supposed to stop this? The ironic part of this is that Danny should actually thank the Sabres. If they had offered him that mythical 25 for 5 deal in the Summer, he wouldn't have been able to play his way to a better contract by the end of the year which netten him an extra $2 million a year. EDIT: I almost forgot, ###### him.
Mike Oxhurtz Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Wanting to re-sign Drury + kicking Briere to the curb + misreading Drury's willingness to stay + begging Briere to stay at the last minute = 3 playoff misses in 4 years(including this year). :worthy: :thumbsup: Thank you! The Sabres FO really screwed the pooch when it came to Drury & Briere. I remember getting bashed heavily by one of the moderators on here (I think it was SDS?) for saying the exact same thing, and he/she said I had no clue what I was talking about. Well, the proof is there like you said "3 playoff misses in 4 years(including this year)." Guess, I knew what I was talking about all along and others were drunk off the kool-aid coming from the Sabres FO.
Mike Oxhurtz Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 The ironic part of this is that Danny should actually thank the Sabres. If they had offered him that mythical 25 for 5 deal in the Summer, he wouldn't have been able to play his way to a better contract by the end of the year which netten him an extra $2 million a year. EDIT: I almost forgot, ###### him. Darcy, are you still mad about Briere & Peca?
SwampD Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Darcy, are you still mad about Briere & Peca? Not mad about either, just stirring up the ###### pot. After 3 1/2 years it has developed a crust on top. Scrape that off and you'll find it's still quite hot and steamy underneath.
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