Nathan Gerbe

[DFITZ1]

this dude has skill. the sabres should at least give him a full year in the majors. sending him down to the ahl is only going to hurt his confidence and make him regress. give him an honest shot for a whole year then bag him. off topic but i think it was ridicolous how we got rid of zubrus, bernier and torres after what like 20 games at the most? thats just stupid. those guys had potential and it would have been cool to see them on the team for at least a whole year.

 

Agreed. I've seen Gerbe play with Portland a couple times when teh Pirates played Albany. He's one of these guys who is a solid first liner in the AHL, and has little to gain going back there. I like his grittiness and stickhandling, but like so many Sabres, he needs to learn how to finish. He needs to play at the NHL level in order to advance or see if he's peaked. Unlike Tyler Myers, it may take more games for him to adjust to the level of talent.

[DFITZ1]

Gerbe already has a goal tonite against Anaheim. I'd discuss it with you except Versus didn't let me watch it!

[dan213]

I'm so sick of watching him turn the puck over and lose every battle for the puck. Start dressing Adam in his place.

[bob_sauve28]

Agreed. I've seen Gerbe play with Portland a couple times when teh Pirates played Albany. He's one of these guys who is a solid first liner in the AHL, and has little to gain going back there. I like his grittiness and stickhandling, but like so many Sabres, he needs to learn how to finish. He needs to play at the NHL level in order to advance or see if he's peaked. Unlike Tyler Myers, it may take more games for him to adjust to the level of talent.

I like him. I don't think he will score fifty goals, but he has a good shot, can skate real well and is a good forechecker. He might be another Paille, or he could develop past that stage, but he deserves a shot at reaching the next level.

[Sabre Dance]

I like him. I don't think he will score fifty goals, but he has a good shot, can skate real well and is a good forechecker. He might be another Paille, or he could develop past that stage, but he deserves a shot at reaching the next level.

 

...and we all know how Paille worked out for the team. :doh:

[bob_sauve28]

...and we all know how Paille worked out for the team. :doh:

No argument, but let's hope he developes past that point

[themaze2332]

Gerbe and Ennis are the next upcoming Roy project and we all know how good Roy has been for our team the last several years. Yes, bring on all of the people saying that he was leading our team so far this year...he sure did have the most point quantitatively...however, qualitatively, he is lacking.

 

Nonetheless, these three are turnover machines and I do not see them helping us all too much. I will continue to give them wait time, but the magic eight ball says: "outlook not too good."

 

How did everyone like his 2 on 0 move with Vanek this evening?

[carpandean]

Gerbe and Ennis are the next upcoming Roy project and we all know how good Roy has been for our team the last several years. Yes, bring on all of the people saying that he was leading our team so far this year...he sure did have the most point quantitatively...however, qualitatively, he is lacking.

If Gerbe and/or Ennis turn(s) into Roy(s), they would be success stories. No, they wouldn't be that #1 center, franchise leader, next Chris Drury, etc., but they would be very strong players. Roy is just fine, arguably underpaid, but also arguably over-slotted. Darcy may sit on his hands saying that Roy (and others) will mature and turn into that guy, but realistically, we all know that he probably won't and certainly isn't being paid like that. If (and I am just picking a random rumor here) they were to sign Brad Richards for, say, $7.5 million per year, would anyone argue that Richards/Roy at $7.5/4.5 million (cap, probably a little more salary) is a weak center corps? Add in Gerbe or Ennis (hypothetically) being a Roy on one of the wings and I doubt anyone would complain.

[Weave]

If Gerbe and/or Ennis turn(s) into Roy(s), they would be success stories. No, they wouldn't be that #1 center, franchise leader, next Chris Drury, etc., but they would be very strong players. Roy is just fine, arguably underpaid, but also arguably over-slotted. Darcy may sit on his hands saying that Roy (and others) will mature and turn into that guy, but realistically, we all know that he probably won't and certainly isn't being paid like that. If (and I am just picking a random rumor here) they were to sign Brad Richards for, say, $7.5 million per year, would anyone argue that Richards/Roy at $7.5/4.5 million (cap, probably a little more salary) is a weak center corps? Add in Gerbe or Ennis (hypothetically) being a Roy on one of the wings and I doubt anyone would complain.

 

I always reserve the right to complain, whether rational or not. :P

 

If either of those two develop into a wing version of Roy I think I would be happy. And I agree with your POV that Roy is overslotted. Then again, most of the team is overslotted.

[Marvelo]

I always reserve the right to complain, whether rational or not. :P

 

If either of those two develop into a wing version of Roy I think I would be happy. And I agree with your POV that Roy is overslotted. Then again, most of the team is overslotted.

 

yeah the players have slots between their legs.

[Weave]

yeah the players have slots between their legs.

 

 

Ba dumpbump tshh !!

[nfreeman]

If Gerbe and/or Ennis turn(s) into Roy(s), they would be success stories. No, they wouldn't be that #1 center, franchise leader, next Chris Drury, etc., but they would be very strong players. Roy is just fine, arguably underpaid, but also arguably over-slotted. Darcy may sit on his hands saying that Roy (and others) will mature and turn into that guy, but realistically, we all know that he probably won't and certainly isn't being paid like that. If (and I am just picking a random rumor here) they were to sign Brad Richards for, say, $7.5 million per year, would anyone argue that Richards/Roy at $7.5/4.5 million (cap, probably a little more salary) is a weak center corps? Add in Gerbe or Ennis (hypothetically) being a Roy on one of the wings and I doubt anyone would complain.

 

I've been thinking the same thing -- a true #1 center like Richards would allow Roy to slide down to #2 and maybe even allow you-know-who to stay (for the right price, of course -- maybe $2.5MM x 2 years) at #3. Then, all of a sudden, the center group doesn't look so bad.

[bob_sauve28]

I've been thinking the same thing -- a true #1 center like Richards would allow Roy to slide down to #2 and maybe even allow you-know-who to stay (for the right price, of course -- maybe $2.5MM x 2 years) at #3. Then, all of a sudden, the center group doesn't look so bad.

Ya, I think one top of the line center would solve a lot of problems on this team.

[SwampD]

Ya, I think one top of the line center would solve a lot of problems on this team.

But, I thought we had two?

[nfreeman]

Ya, I think one top of the line center would solve a lot of problems on this team.

And one top-line winger. If the Sabres could add, say, Richards and Parise and dump Pommer and TC, the lines next year could be:

 

Richards-Vanek-Parise

Roy-Ennis-Stafford

Adam-Kassian-Hecht

Gaustad-Kaleta-McCormick

 

I think someone would take Pommer on re-entry waivers at a 50% discount, which would still save the Sabres $2.6MM per year. Add TC's $4.5MM and Rivet's $3.5MM, and that's $10.6MM to put towards Richards and Parise (who will probably cost $14MM between them)

 

TP is going to deliver us to the promised land!

[bob_sauve28]

And one top-line winger. If the Sabres could add, say, Richards and Parise and dump Pommer and TC, the lines next year could be:

 

Richards-Vanek-Parise

Roy-Ennis-Stafford

Adam-Kassian-Gerbe

Gaustad-Kaleta-McCormick

 

I think someone would take Pommer on re-entry waivers at a 50% discount, which would still save the Sabres $2.6MM per year. Add TC's $4.5MM and Rivet's $3.5MM, and that's $10.6MM to put towards Richards and Parise (who will probably cost $14MM between them)

 

TP is going to deliver us to the promised land!

That sounds great! I hope that's the type of change that is on the way. I made one change to your lines

[inkman]

I think someone would take Pommer on re-entry waivers at a 50% discount, which would still save the Sabres $2.6MM per year. Add TC's $4.5MM and Rivet's $3.5MM, and that's $10.6MM to put towards Richards and Parise (who will probably cost $14MM between them)

Problem is, Pegs needs to bring in a GM capable of doing this as well as knowledgable enough to know it needs to be done. I'm just not sure that person is available.

[nfreeman]

Problem is, Pegs needs to bring in a GM capable of doing this as well as knowledgable enough to know it needs to be done. I'm just not sure that person is available.

Well, Dudley gave Atlanta a pretty substantial makeover last summer, and Gainey (whom I previously thought was a poor GM) did the same for the Habs the summer before that. It can be done, and there are a lot of assistant GMs around the NHL chomping at the bit for their shot at it.

[JJFIVEOH]

Does this thread need to be resuscitated?B-)

[bunomatic]

Does this thread need to be resuscitated?B-)

All I can say is Gerbe has been real good lately...

[bob_sauve28]

All I can say is Gerbe has been real good lately...

As has Ennis, Sekera and McCormick

 

there is some young talent on this team.

[Patty16]

As has Ennis, Sekera and McCormick

 

there is some young talent on this team.

 

Gerbe and Ennis have top 6 potential, i think ennis has really demonstrated that. Gerbe is trying his best to catch up and has played better lately but needs more consistency but hes young.

 

Sekera is really coming into own. Like his game.

 

Mccormick is the type of 3/4th line player you want, plays hard, chips in the occasional goal. But he will never be more than that.

[kishoph]

I was very critical of GERBE the 1st half of the season, but since he's been put back in the lineup he's been playing great, it's a 180 from how he was playing. His effort has been tops and he seems to be playing with a lot of confidence.

[SwampD]

I was very critical of GERBE the 1st half of the season, but since he's been put back in the lineup he's been playing great, it's a 180 from how he was playing. His effort has been tops and he seems to be playing with a lot of confidence.

Actually, Gerbe's been playing this well and this hard the entire season. He just hasn't been scoring.

[spndnchz]

As has Ennis, Sekera and McCormick

 

there is some young talent on this team.

 

Not complaining at all but are they really that young?

 

Shakira will be 25, Gerbe 24 and Cody 29 before the summer ends. I picture hockey young more like Ennis or Myers. By the time ur 24-25 you should be great, veteran leader type IMO.