Marvelo Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 Don't get me wrong, I like McCutcheon, he's a great team guy. I met him: a really nice guy! But the power play stinks. It's a big reason the Sabres lose as much as they do. McCutcheon is a holdover from the Amerks and was a defensive specialist. The PP over the years has been maddening to watch: it's the "Throw it back to the point and diddle around with it school of thought." I do believe the Sabres NEED a new power play coach at this point and McCutcheon should be reassigned a duty that matches his skill set. The Canucks game illustrated it all. They had no business being in the game, but their PP was 2-5 and ours was 0-5 (again!) Damn the nepotism and go out and findt a great power play coach. NOW!
spndnchz Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 IDK, some of those PP entries last night seemed good. They've mad up a new way of entering the zone. And btw, who was first with the drop pass at center ice?
Weave Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 Is McCutcheon in fact the PP coach? I never heard which coach replaced Arniel with PP duties. And speaking of PP.... It is about freaking time that whoever is coaching those fools decided to employ a couple of new entry plays. Working that little reverse play with Ennis was a nice twist. The entries were much better against Vancouver. The rest of the PP.... not so much. Vancouver put on a PP clinic. Those boys can pass the puck. High velocity and right on the tape. IMO it isn't who's coaching the Sabres PP, it's the skill level of the players on the PP. That Vancouver team is oozing with talent.
inkman Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 Isn't the PP a function of your skill guys, which outside of 3 players the Sabres have none. All this PP coach crap seems like nonsense.
Marvelo Posted November 16, 2010 Author Report Posted November 16, 2010 Isn't the PP a function of your skill guys, which outside of 3 players the Sabres have none. All this PP coach crap seems like nonsense. I don't think it's crap. It's been a problem for a long time now, with a lot of different players taking turns in a failed system.
bunomatic Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 Isn't the PP a function of your skill guys, which outside of 3 players the Sabres have none. All this PP coach crap seems like nonsense. If thats the case all the Ruff haters can lay off Lindy and vent their anger at Regier because isn't offense a function of your skill guys, which outside of 3 or 4 overvalued players the sabres have none. All this head coach crap seems like nonsense. That was somewhat tongue in cheek but...just sayin
nobody Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 Isn't the PP a function of your skill guys, which outside of 3 players the Sabres have none. All this PP coach crap seems like nonsense. Exactly to the first part - what should we expect when we see Hecht and Grier on the PP? But I do think new assistants might help the team.
inkman Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 I don't think it's crap. It's been a problem for a long time now, with a lot of different players taking turns in a failed system. Wasn't it # 1 in the league with 23,48, and 51?
Tyrannustyrannus Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 Wasn't it # 1 in the league with 23,48, and 51? no
Two or less Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 Wasn't it # 1 in the league with 23,48, and 51? Maybe not #1 but they were a pretty solid PP unit, but that was under Scott Arniel. But, as somebody else noted in the last PP coach thread we had, even Arniel had tons of problems when he began and it wasn't until he got Drury, Briere and a mature Campbell before the PP started to click. Also, does McCutcheon still do PP duties? I could have swore i heard awhile ago Lindy Ruff took over the PP....
carpandean Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 Wasn't it # 1 in the league with 23,48, and 51? Maybe not #1 but they were a pretty solid PP unit, but that was under Scott Arniel. But, as somebody else noted in the last PP coach thread we had, even Arniel had tons of problems when he began and it wasn't until he got Drury, Briere and a mature Campbell before the PP started to click. I haven't checked the numbers, but according to this page, they were ranked 17th overall with 17.4% in 2006-07.
nobody Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 I haven't checked the numbers, but according to this page, they were ranked 17th overall with 17.4% in 2006-07. Though wasn't it like near top in the playoffs? Just checked for myself over at nhl.com. The answer is no. 05-06 ranked 8th. 06-07 10th. 09-10 last - horrible horrible 0.0. While I'm there - Regular season 05-06 ranked 3rd. 08-09 7th. The other years - middle of the pack.
TheChimp Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 I don't think it's crap. It's been a problem for a long time now, with a lot of different mediocre players taking turns in a failed system. Fixed.
mudberry Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 It seems like the powerplay went south after Arniel left and hasn't recovered since. I'm glad a team finally took a chance on him to coach a team, as it's been a long time coming.
JoDo Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 It seems like the powerplay went south after Arniel left and hasn't recovered since. I'm glad a team finally took a chance on him to coach a team, as it's been a long time coming. Wholly agree. The PP has not been the same since Arniel left.
SabresneedaCup Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 If thats the case all the Ruff haters can lay off Lindy and vent their anger at Regier because isn't offense a function of your skill guys, which outside of 3 or 4 overvalued players the sabres have none. All this head coach crap seems like nonsense. That was somewhat tongue in cheek but...just sayin what does tongue in cheek mean?
X. Benedict Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 Wholly agree. The PP has not been the same since Arniel left. Was it Arniel or the Personnel that left? Columbus Blue Jackets PP 7% .... 6 PP goals on the year.
inkman Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 what does tongue in cheek mean? Also known as tossing salad
Two or less Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 Was it Arniel or the Personnel that left? Columbus Blue Jackets PP 7% .... 6 PP goals on the year. And Arniel's PP on Sabres was awful his first few years here. I would know, because i once argued that fact without doing research and someone on this forum (i forget who) owned me on the topic. lol
nobody Posted November 18, 2010 Report Posted November 18, 2010 One thing I know is that I wish Mike Ramsey was still with the Sabres.
bunomatic Posted November 18, 2010 Report Posted November 18, 2010 what does tongue in cheek mean? Tongue in cheek means somewhat serious but not really. You'll have to ask Ink to describe what tossing salad is. :blink:
nobody Posted November 18, 2010 Report Posted November 18, 2010 Tongue in cheek means somewhat serious but not really. You'll have to ask Ink to describe what tossing salad is. :blink: I think Ink was talking about a different cheek.
jpgr909 Posted November 18, 2010 Report Posted November 18, 2010 Was it Arniel or the Personnel that left? Columbus Blue Jackets PP 7% .... 6 PP goals on the year. Tongue in cheek discussions aside, I can't argue with those numbers, but it also isn't completely reflective of the personnel. Wasn't it Montreal that had an all-world PP a few years ago, despite the fact they didn't have much talent (relatively speaking) working on either unit? And look at Pittsburgh's PP the last couple of years. All that firepower but they struggle mightily. Someone else quoted the numbers, but just from (often faulty) memory, the Sabres were excellent on the PP in 05-06 but horrible in 06-07, with roughly the same personnel. McCutcheon may be a fine fellow, but he's the special teams coach and the special teams haven't been special in his tenure (w/some exceptions, like the PK before this year). But he's still here, as one more example of the FO's incredible desire to cling to all facets of the organization. They call it patience.
X. Benedict Posted November 18, 2010 Report Posted November 18, 2010 Tongue in cheek discussions aside, I can't argue with those numbers, but it also isn't completely reflective of the personnel. Wasn't it Montreal that had an all-world PP a few years ago, despite the fact they didn't have much talent (relatively speaking) working on either unit? And look at Pittsburgh's PP the last couple of years. All that firepower but they struggle mightily. Someone else quoted the numbers, but just from (often faulty) memory, the Sabres were excellent on the PP in 05-06 but horrible in 06-07, with roughly the same personnel. McCutcheon may be a fine fellow, but he's the special teams coach and the special teams haven't been special in his tenure (w/some exceptions, like the PK before this year). But he's still here, as one more example of the FO's incredible desire to cling to all facets of the organization. They call it patience. I guess you could get rid of McCutcheon......but I think he was already relieved of powerplay duties about December last year. Torches and Pitchforks to James Patrick's office.
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