Meathead Posted November 6, 2010 Report Posted November 6, 2010 the average 2009 record of the two 8th place teams to make the playoffs was 41 31 10 these sabres are 3 9 2, meaning they would have to go at least 38 22 8 the rest of the season just to get approximately the 8th playoff spot that is a w/l rate of the most dominating teams in the league. the likelihood that this squad will go from dead last to one of the top two/three teams in the conference is very unlikely wow. fourteen games in and the season is pretty much already over. did not see that coming
jpgr909 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Posted November 6, 2010 The numbers look ugly, but what's really depressing is the lack of energy/heart/passion/urgency (take your pick or insert your own) this team comes out with every night. Maybe more disgusting than depressing.
kcmule Posted November 6, 2010 Report Posted November 6, 2010 i saw the effort tonight but no one on this team seems capable of elevating their play when it matters most
Weave Posted November 6, 2010 Report Posted November 6, 2010 They need to win almost 3 out of every 5 for the rest of the season for a realistic shot at the playoffs. That's a tall order considering the President's Trophy winning team last season did only a little better than that. At this point they need to keep pace with the hottest teams in the league from here on out. Yeah, it's been done before but I don't have a good feeling about it happening here.
rickshaw Posted November 6, 2010 Report Posted November 6, 2010 We're done. Hopefully we don't get hot enough to just miss the playoffs and get the 14th pick overall. Stink it up and get a good pick. Remember, we have the "core."
TheChimp Posted November 6, 2010 Report Posted November 6, 2010 i saw the effort tonight but no one on this team seems capable of elevating their play when it matters most I gotta say, I saw it, too. Poor fellas. They really do care. They just suck.
waldo Posted November 10, 2010 Report Posted November 10, 2010 i saw the effort tonight but no one on this team seems capable of elevating their play when it matters most Maybe Tallinder, or Lydman,or Drury,or Briere, or Spacek or Tiny Tim Kennedy could help? Better yet Max and Torres are still within reach.
Two or less Posted November 10, 2010 Report Posted November 10, 2010 the average 2009 record of the two 8th place teams to make the playoffs was 41 31 10 these sabres are 3 9 2, meaning they would have to go at least 38 22 8 the rest of the season just to get approximately the 8th playoff spot that is a w/l rate of the most dominating teams in the league. the likelihood that this squad will go from dead last to one of the top two/three teams in the conference is very unlikely wow. fourteen games in and the season is pretty much already over. did not see that coming Dude, it's not even Thanksgiving yet, and you're saying they won't make the playoffs? I don't buy it. Several years ago Ottawa started very slow and made the playoffs. Carolina when they won the Cup started very slow too. Also, from Jan 23rd until March 3rd last season, Sabres were 3-8-2 and yet still finished division champions. The road to the playoffs will be hard and they will need to avoid major slumps during the season but to say they are done because of a poor start is way too silly. They play two easy games this week before playing 8 tough ones. After the 10 games, let's check out the standings and see how far down we are....
Robviously Posted November 10, 2010 Report Posted November 10, 2010 Several years ago Ottawa started very slow and made the playoffs. Carolina when they won the Cup started very slow too. Both of those teams had a lot more talent than this year's Sabres team.
sweeper Posted November 10, 2010 Report Posted November 10, 2010 Carolina when they won the Cup started very slow too. While I also agree the Sabres and the playoffs is not entirely impossible, your statement about Carolina is not even remotely true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_Carolina_Hurricanes_season 14-3-1 is not what I'd call a slow start. As I recall, they were either first or second in the conference all year.
kishoph Posted November 10, 2010 Report Posted November 10, 2010 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6688343676151410482# Sorry couldn't resist.
Two or less Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 While I also agree the Sabres and the playoffs is not entirely impossible, your statement about Carolina is not even remotely true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_Carolina_Hurricanes_season 14-3-1 is not what I'd call a slow start. As I recall, they were either first or second in the conference all year. Not sure what i was thinking.... i could have swore they struggled for a while until they benched Gerber for Ward. Guess not. lol
bob_sauve28 Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 the average 2009 record of the two 8th place teams to make the playoffs was 41 31 10 these sabres are 3 9 2, meaning they would have to go at least 38 22 8 the rest of the season just to get approximately the 8th playoff spot that is a w/l rate of the most dominating teams in the league. the likelihood that this squad will go from dead last to one of the top two/three teams in the conference is very unlikely wow. fourteen games in and the season is pretty much already over. did not see that coming If they win tonight they are only one point out of eighth spot. Right now they are just three back. It's not as gloomy as it seems, actually
Tyrannustyrannus Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 Didn't they have an even worse start in 1998-1999? I'd love to be able to go back and look at what people wrote then... Is it a coincidence that they have won both games since Matt Eliis got called up?
spndnchz Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 Didn't they have an even worse start in 1998-1999? I'd love to be able to go back and look at what people wrote then... Is it a coincidence that they have won both games since Matt Eliis got called up? Or since Stafford and Rivet haven't played?
Stoner Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 Didn't they have an even worse start in 1998-1999? I'd love to be able to go back and look at what people wrote then... Is it a coincidence that they have won both games since Matt Eliis got called up? They had a great start in 98-99 and tailed way off, didn't recover until Darcy made some fantastic trades just before and at the deadline. You might be thinking about Lindy's first year before Dom's December of Shutouts, or 99-00, the Cup final hangover start. P.S. Here's an amazing stat that pretty much sums up the Hasek era. In December of 1997, when Hasek recorded a shutout, the Sabres were 6-0. When he didn't -- 1-7-1. lol
bob_sauve28 Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 They had a great start in 98-99 and tailed way off, didn't recover until Darcy made some fantastic trades just before and at the deadline. You might be thinking about Lindy's first year before Dom's December of Shutouts, or 99-00, the Cup final hangover start. P.S. Here's an amazing stat that pretty much sums up the Hasek era. In December of 1997, when Hasek recorded a shutout, the Sabres were 6-0. When he didn't -- 1-7-1. lol I was talking with a buddy of mine last night about the last play Hasek had in Buffalo. It was the OT goal by Kasperitus and how Hasket just slumped down and left the ice never to play for Buffalo again. Do you think he was thinking "I'm so out of here!" at that moment? It's sad they never put a team around him good enough to win it. Best player in Sabres history, and probably the most boring era in Sabres history. Too many 1-0 games. I wish LaFontain could have played on the same team at the same time throughout those years. We would have won three Stanley Cups
Eleven Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 They have 66 games to make up 4 points.
X. Benedict Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 If the club can get to .500 by game 25. They stand a decent chance.
Stoner Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 They have 66 games to make up 4 points. Dude, they're on a 62-point pace.
Eleven Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 Dude, they're on a 62-point pace. They were on a 164 point pace at one point. My point is, it's not like the teams ahead of them are setting the world on fire. An 82-point pace is a playoff spot right now. 66 games to make up 4 points is hardly hopeless.
Two or less Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 Or since Stafford and Rivet haven't played? To be fair, i think the Sabres, including Stafford, played a decent game on the night prior to the Toronto win, vs Montreal. It was just bad goaltending which cost them the 2 points.
wjag Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 Watching NFL On The Fly today they said that the Sabres are on a projected finish of 46 points and the Devils 45 if they keep up the pace.. Ouch..
X. Benedict Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 They were on a 164 point pace at one point. My point is, it's not like the teams ahead of them are setting the world on fire. An 82-point pace is a playoff spot right now. 66 games to make up 4 points is hardly hopeless. Good that the East stinks this year Sabres are only a couple games out of 8th. If they were in the West they would be buried.
Eleven Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 Watching NFL On The Fly today they said that the Sabres are on a projected finish of 46 points and the Devils 45 if they keep up the pace.. Ouch.. That makes no sense. At least PA's math is a good estimate. None of this matters. No team "keeps the pace" for a whole season, whether that be a good pace, or a bad pace. (Well, maybe expansion teams can keep up a bad pace.) Does it look great right now? Hell, no. But is 4 points in 66 games--this puts them clear of tiebreakers, by the way--insurmountable? Hell, no.
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