Icedus Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Not sure if anybody's mentioned this here yet, but Tim Thomas has beaten Hasek's record for best save percentage in the regular season with .9382% and now holds that NHL record. "Dominik Hasek was a hero of mine back when I was in college, a guy who played unconventional and had a ton of success. Even at college age, I was already labeled as somebody with my style that I couldn't do it at the next level. So, you know, he was an inspiration.'' Link to article: http://es.pn/e2fMma What an excellent rebound he's made. I love Boston's Thomas-Rask goalie tandem, and can only hope Miller-Enroth provides us with similar results. :thumbsup:
spndnchz Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Posted April 11, 2011 Tim Thomas never saw the ice in the playoffs for the Bruins. That leaves 3 of 8 teams playing big ticket goalies making it to round 2, Nabakov , Luongo and Fleury. You do realize that with bonus Rask's cap hit was at 3.2 million. Well, of course u do.
Eleven Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 First of all, I'd take Volchenkov on the Sabres for $4 mil in a heartbeat. The Brodeur contract was signed back when it was "conventional wisdom" that goaltending wins Championships. As it turns out the contract is coming to an end at a time where goal scorers are the prime assets. I'd take Volchenkov, too. Brodeur was re-signed in 2006 (and didn't make it to the final four that year, did he?). If Lamoriello is such a genius, he would have had it figured out then. Not that much has changed from then to now, if anything has at all. Tell you what: You can spend this spring wearing your #17 Devils jersey and wondering how Lou's cunning plan didn't quite work out. I'll spend my time following the team that did it right and made the playoffs.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Even with his 2 stints of injuries, Miller still has the 4th most games played of the playoff goalies. You think Vancouver finally figured it out? Luongo 60 games this year and they were a machine. Price was the only one over 70. Every golaie meets the Drane metrics to win a Cup this year. Price goes 220. Lundqvist is borderline 200, but 68 games is the max and he just hit it. Bryzgolov is a big boy as well. Will we see the Sabres finally wise up and play Miller 55-60 games next year?
deluca67 Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 You do realize that with bonus Rask's cap hit was at 3.2 million. Well, of course u do. Any chance they can redo Miller's contract to an incentive based deal?
shrader Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 So, of the 8 teams that got to Round 2 last year. Spending on goalies. Pitt 5.5 Montreal 3 Boston 8.2 Philly 2.7 SanJose 5.9 Detroit 2.1 Chicago 6.4 Vancouver 7.25 The bolded made it through. You think Philly could've won more if they didn't let it 6 or 7 goals in a few games. And where exactly am I insulting you that you need to have throw that in there? And Montreal's only there because both of their goalies were on the last year of a contract. This whole idea that you can ride a cheap goalie deep into the playoffs is well and good, but take a look at what happens to those goalies' contracts after they go that far. Niemi's about to start a contract that pays $3.8 million annually. Halak's at $3.75 million. So are these so called cheap goalies actually cheap goalies?
Eleven Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Any chance they can redo Miller's contract to an incentive based deal? As long as they both agree and it's within the CBA rules, why not?
Taro T Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 As long as they both agree and it's within the CBA rules, why not? Because he doesn't meet the criteria to get an incentive based contract.
wjag Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Because he doesn't meet the criteria to get an incentive based contract. And now there you go again with those rules.... :lol:
Eleven Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Because he doesn't meet the criteria to get an incentive based contract. So it is not within the CBA rules, then. Oh well. Maybe in 2012.
Derrico Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 So it is not within the CBA rules, then. Oh well. Maybe in 2012. No. Any incentives are a direct cap hit.
Eleven Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 No. Any incentives are a direct cap hit. Yeah...but the CBA expires in 2012 and we don't know what the rules will look like thereafter.
Taro T Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 No. Any incentives are a direct cap hit. :huh: :huh: :huh: No, Miller is NOT an an entry level deal, he ISN'T over 35 on a 1 year deal, and he DIDN'T spend 100+ days on IR and signed a 1 year deal coming off the injury riddled season. So there is no 'direct cap hit' for his incentives. He simply is not allowed to sign an incentivized contract. So it is not within the CBA rules, then. Oh well. Maybe in 201214. Fixed it for you. ;)
Eleven Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Derrico, if it makes you feel better, I've learned to take Taro's and Chz's words for it when it comes to CBA issues. I swear, they have the thing committed to memory.
deluca67 Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 And Montreal's only there because both of their goalies were on the last year of a contract. This whole idea that you can ride a cheap goalie deep into the playoffs is well and good, but take a look at what happens to those goalies' contracts after they go that far. Niemi's about to start a contract that pays $3.8 million annually. Halak's at $3.75 million. So are these so called cheap goalies actually cheap goalies? Interesting that both goalies moved on to other teams. $3.8 and $3.75 certainly is not cheap. Still about $2.4 less than Miller's contract. IMO, Miller is a better goalie than those two, just $2.4 mil better.
Derrico Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 :huh: :huh: :huh: No, Miller is NOT an an entry level deal, he ISN'T over 35 on a 1 year deal, and he DIDN'T spend 100+ days on IR and signed a 1 year deal coming off the injury riddled season. So there is no 'direct cap hit' for his incentives. He simply is not allowed to sign an incentivized contract. Fixed it for you. ;) Oh, sorry about that my mistake.
Derrico Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Derrico, if it makes you feel better, I've learned to take Taro's and Chz's words for it when it comes to CBA issues. I swear, they have the thing committed to memory. Hahahah, ya I should have know better :blush:
Eleven Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Fixed it for you. ;) Is there some reason why, if the CBA is changed in 2012 to allow incentive-based deals, Miller and the team could not renegotiate an existing contract? I'm not seeing it...
Taro T Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Is there some reason why, if the CBA is changed in 2012 to allow incentive-based deals, Miller and the team could not renegotiate an existing contract? I'm not seeing it... If they allow renegotiations, then it MIGHT be possible. Typically, in NHL CBA's, old contracts got grandfathered into the new system. I would expect the new system to resemble the old one in that I don't expect contracts to be renegotiable, but it is possible that the new system will allow both/either renegotiations in general or renegotiation of old contracts to resemble new contracts. Considering how much the cap has gone up since '05, I don't really expect to see a lot of changes in the next CBA and I don't see it being TOO acrimonious. Of course Don Fehr is synonomous with acrimonious negotiations, so my expectations may not be terribly realistic. Off topic - has Fehr been officially named the head of the PA yet? There were reports that he was going to be introduced a couple of weeks back, and then I haven't seen anything more about it.
spndnchz Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Posted April 11, 2011 Derrico, if it makes you feel better, I've learned to take Taro's and Chz's words for it when it comes to CBA issues. I swear, they have the thing committed to memory. U can throw shrader in there too. :thumbsup:
Eleven Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 U can throw shrader in there too. :thumbsup: No, he's very sketchy.
shrader Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 U can throw shrader in there too. :thumbsup: I really wish we had originally divided it up 3 ways. I've read far to much of all the legal speak in that damn thing. No, he's very sketchy. :clapping:
FogBat Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 So, of the 8 teams that got to Round 2 last year. Spending on goalies. Pitt 5.5 Montreal 3 Boston 8.2 Philly 2.7 SanJose 5.9 Detroit 2.1 Chicago 6.4 Vancouver 7.25 The bolded made it through. You think Philly could've won more if they didn't let it 6 or 7 goals in a few games. And where exactly am I insulting you that you need to have to throw that in there? b/c he's the resident PITA and doesn't GAF who he irritates in the process just to attempt to prove his point. IMO, he's way out of line.
FogBat Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Any chance they can redo Miller's contract to an incentive based deal? Are you kidding me?! You are such a hypocrite, you left-wing loon!
nobody Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 http://www.nhlnumbers.com/teams/CHI?year=2010 It surprised me, too. I went over to that site to look at the Sabres numbers but I couldn't find their logo.
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