shrader Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 One Sabres Plaza. I thought it was Old Sugar Packets.
Patty16 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 I thought it was Old Sugar Packets. isnt it One Seymour H. Knox III Plaza ?
Stoner Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 Im not trying to put you down, but your post doesnt make sense. i dont need to explain it if he on their roster on opening night, he was cut, meaning the Rags didnt care too much to expose him to being taken by another team. BTW no team wanted kennedy on waivers. im not sure who OSP is, but the sabres reward players, they arent cheap (you can question how they spend not if) and Kennedy simply didnt fit into their roster at $1 million. Apparently he didnt fit into any clubs plans at more than league minimum. So you can continue on your tirade or look at the facts. Timmy is borderline NHL right now. I sure as hell can question whether the Sabres spend when they're several million dollars under the cap right now. Borderline? Might be a bit strong, but I don't disagree. That's really beside the point. He has the potential to be a good NHL player. I could count on one hand the number of fans who didn't expect TK to be in the starting lineup (for the Sabres) on Friday night. Certainly none of the personnel geniuses on this board forecast what happened -- even after the award.
Stoner Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 Sorry PA, as much as I always love reading you bit#$ing about the Sabres management, I've got to agree with Patty on this one. The Sabres arn't at the cap max this year but they're not that far off and arn't near the floor that's for sure. Complain that they don't spend their money wisely fine, but they do spend it. Define "far off." It's all semantics I guess. Look at league averages and compare to other teams since the lockout. Sometimes they've been at the cap and sometimes they've been below league average.
Patty16 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 I sure as hell can question whether the Sabres spend when they're several million dollars under the cap right now. Borderline? Might be a bit strong, but I don't disagree. That's really beside the point. He has the potential to be a good NHL player. I could count on one hand the number of fans who didn't expect TK to be in the starting lineup (for the Sabres) on Friday night. Certainly none of the personnel geniuses on this board forecast what happened -- even after the award. I think the sabres wouldve kept him at a lower number. But the fact no other team jumped at his arbitration award helps support that it was too high. Potential: i think he has some, although its limited. I think he could be a 20 goal scorer but will never be consistent, he doesnt have that much talent. But he can be an effective 3rd line center winger popping in 10 goals a year. Its possible but i think unlikely at this point, hes young and is liekly destined for the press box ( see todays article in the Post) or AHL.
JCBoston Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 sorry again, very much enjoy jack edwards as an announcer, and NESN is way better than MSG.. I'd rather stick a fork in my eye than listen to Jack Edwards.
nobody Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 I'd rather stick a fork in my eye than listen to Jack Edwards. Might work better if you stick the fork in your ear.
rickshaw Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 Kennedy is gone and the team will be just fine without him. No other team touched him on the waiver wire. He may play for the Rangers, but they're not that good. I'll take Ennis over Kennedy 100 times out of a 100. Kennedy shouldn't have gone to arb. He did, and now he's been waived again. He's a bubble player who may or may not play but I'm fine with his departure.
X. Benedict Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 If there is fault in Sabres managment for losing Kennedy you can blame them for one thing: Failure to get him on a two way contract. That option was lost with arbitration. Beyond that, you would have had to cut someone left on the Sabres present roster to keep him. Who would that be?
spndnchz Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 Kennedy clears waivers. He doesn't have to go down but could if NYR pick someone up.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 If there is fault in Sabres managment for losing Kennedy you can blame them for one thing: Failure to get him on a two way contract. That option was lost with arbitration. Beyond that, you would have had to cut someone left on the Sabres present roster to keep him. Who would that be? I used to think Kennedy was just another plug and play Sabres generic jersey filler. Then he was one of maybe 3 or 4 players to elevate his game in the playoffs. Real teams have 15 or so guys who do so. Losing a player like that from a team with little example is the bigger problem. Your reward for outscoring everyone on the team and outhustling everyone on the team is to get cut. It won't matter much in the longrun, but to someone who is already disgruntled with management...the way it was handled was low class. Until pantywastes like the majority of the "Top 6" are gone, it just feels like more of the same on the way.
X. Benedict Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 I used to think Kennedy was just another plug and play Sabres generic jersey filler. Then he was one of maybe 3 or 4 players to elevate his game in the playoffs. Real teams have 15 or so guys who do so. Losing a player like that from a team with little example is the bigger problem. Your reward for outscoring everyone on the team and outhustling everyone on the team is to get cut. It won't matter much in the longrun, but to someone who is already disgruntled with management...the way it was handled was low class. Until pantywastes like the majority of the "Top 6" are gone, it just feels like more of the same on the way. Low class? Maybe. I think it is better to get bought out and have a chance for a tryout somewhere else before camps start, than say, get bought out as late as today. In which case he'd be really screwed. Kennedy is going to make more this year than he would have had he signed his 10% Qualifying agreement for 605k for a two-way. I assume his agent knows that too.
thesportsbuff Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 hey guys i had this argument ohh four months ago
X. Benedict Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 hey guys i had this argument ohh four months ago Either way, It would be sad if Kennedy doesn't play in the league. I think he will play plenty enough though. He would be an ideal 13th forward to have on a team.
wallybarthman Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 Im not trying to put you down, but your post doesnt make sense. i dont need to explain it if he on their roster on opening night, he was cut, meaning the Rags didnt care too much to expose him to being taken by another team. BTW no team wanted kennedy on waivers. im not sure who OSP is, but the sabres reward players, they arent cheap (you can question how they spend not if) and Kennedy simply didnt fit into their roster at $1 million. Apparently he didnt fit into any clubs plans at more than league minimum. So you can continue on your tirade or look at the facts. Timmy is borderline NHL right now. Just an FYI - the Sabres are 4.3 million under the cap this season and are 13th in the league in in cap utilization (or 17th - four teams are over the cap right now but they'll have to come down). See capgeek.com
Stoner Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 If there is fault in Sabres managment for losing Kennedy you can blame them for one thing: Failure to get him on a two way contract. That option was lost with arbitration. Beyond that, you would have had to cut someone left on the Sabres present roster to keep him. Who would that be? Mark Parrish. He's on the Sabres present roster on sabres.com. McCormick? Don't acquire Niedermayer? Name a slacker, any slacker? Again, I have a hard time believing based on the way last season played out that Kennedy had not earned a spot on this roster. And anyone who's backpeddling now by saying there's no way he could crack THIS lineup is beyond disingenuous.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 Either way, It would be sad if Kennedy doesn't play in the league. I think he will play plenty enough though. He would be an ideal 13th forward to have on a team. I agree. There was something about that charming underbite and 14yo porn moustache of his in the playoffs that endeared him to me. He's too young, has too much skill and too much oomph not to be at least a first call up guy in the league over the next few years. At worst he ends up a career 30 goal a year guy in the AHL and at best, a 20 goal two way 2nd/3rd liner in the NHL. Which is all the more befuddling as to why Darcy would give up on him because that is Darcy's wheelhouse of a player. Now excuse me. I have to go oil up the ol' rifle just in case they give Derek Roy the C to start the season.
shrader Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 Mark Parrish. He's on the Sabres present roster on sabres.com. McCormick? Don't acquire Niedermayer? Name a slacker, any slacker? Again, I have a hard time believing based on the way last season played out that Kennedy had not earned a spot on this roster. And anyone who's backpeddling now by saying there's no way he could crack THIS lineup is beyond disingenuous. He's in danger of not cracking the lineup of a weaker hockey club. That has to say something. I know it's hard to believe, but players don't always make progress from year to year. Maybe he's taken a couple steps back this offseason/preseason.
Stoner Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 Tim Kennedy clears waivers and remains a Ranger. And he gains on Quinn! http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/politics/Kennedy-narrows-gap-against-Quinn
spndnchz Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 Tim Kennedy clears waivers and remains a Ranger. And he gains on Quinn! http://www.wivb.com/...p-against-Quinn That's so page 6.
That Aud Smell Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 Huh? http://www.nypost.com/pagesix
Sterling Archer Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 I seriously don't get how people are still arguing that Kennedy is a full fledged NHL player. He just got waived by the Rangers to see make room for someone who might possibly be put on waivers. And no one would claim him at league minimum. He's a running joke at this point. Darcy made the right decision. Why pay $1m for a player you didn't want to pay $1m for and no team wants to even pay half that for.
nfreeman Posted October 7, 2010 Report Posted October 7, 2010 I seriously don't get how people are still arguing that Kennedy is a full fledged NHL player. He just got waived by the Rangers to see make room for someone who might possibly be put on waivers. And no one would claim him at league minimum. He's a running joke at this point. Darcy made the right decision. Why pay $1m for a player you didn't want to pay $1m for and no team wants to even pay half that for. But-but-but...they lied! They said they weren't going to buy out players and then they did! Golisano is rich! I hate him! They're conspiring against us! This is criminal!
Sterling Archer Posted October 7, 2010 Report Posted October 7, 2010 But-but-but...they lied! They said they weren't going to buy out players and then they did! Golisano is rich! I hate him! They're conspiring against us! This is criminal! Wait they lied? ###### the front office and their Kool Aid! amidoinitrite?
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