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  On 7/25/2010 at 1:30 PM, Eleven said:

How about one word to describe a poster: wretched.

 

Slipping pretty quickly into a personal attack there. Running up the white flag of surrender so soon?

 

I think what these "define Ruff" threads show pretty clearly is that his fans have very little to hang their hat on. Heck, the best case anyone made for Ruff in last offseason's thread is that he's been around a long time and tends to annoy other coaches.

 

Ruff Hockey: We're Number 4 30.231% of the time! Someone call the HOF!!!!

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  On 7/25/2010 at 12:46 PM, Eleven said:

Now that, that's a fair point.

 

And I hasten to add that Rigas did deliver financially, big time, to give Ruff The Dominator in his prime, a tool, yes, but a tool to finish the job. Our highly paid superstar just happened to be the goalie. One of those Rigas years -- might have been 2000-2001 -- the numbers would not suggest Ruff (Regier?) was hamstrung by a budget too much. I think the Sabres sat around 10th in payroll. Remember the floater, Dougie Gilmour, was making 6 million a year.

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  On 7/25/2010 at 1:45 PM, PASabreFan said:

 

Ruff Hockey: We're Number 4 30.231% of the time! Someone call the HOF!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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  On 7/25/2010 at 1:54 PM, PASabreFan said:

And I hasten to add that Rigas did deliver financially, big time, to give Ruff The Dominator in his prime, a tool, yes, but a tool to finish the job. Our highly paid superstar just happened to be the goalie. One of those Rigas years -- might have been 2000-2001 -- the numbers would not suggest Ruff (Regier?) was hamstrung by a budget too much. I think the Sabres sat around 10th in payroll. Remember the floater, Dougie Gilmour, was making 6 million a year.

 

To be fair though, I think Chicago was still on the hook for half of his salary?

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  On 7/25/2010 at 3:24 PM, Kristian said:

To be fair though, I think Chicago was still on the hook for half of his salary?

 

Good call.

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  On 7/25/2010 at 1:45 PM, PASabreFan said:

Slipping pretty quickly into a personal attack there. Running up the white flag of surrender so soon?

 

I think what these "define Ruff" threads show pretty clearly is that his fans have very little to hang their hat on. Heck, the best case anyone made for Ruff in last offseason's thread is that he's been around a long time and tends to annoy other coaches.

 

Ruff Hockey: We're Number 4 30.231% of the time! Someone call the HOF!!!!

 

Are you kidding? Who started it?

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  On 7/25/2010 at 11:55 PM, Eleven said:

Are you kidding? Who started it?

 

I described your post as laughable. You described me as wretched.

 

Wow, we're pathetic. :w00t:

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  On 7/26/2010 at 12:29 AM, PASabreFan said:

I described your post as laughable. You described me as wretched.

 

Wow, we're pathetic. :w00t:

 

You're the Oscar to my Felix, you big sweetie.

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  On 7/25/2010 at 1:54 PM, PASabreFan said:

And I hasten to add that Rigas did deliver financially, big time, to give Ruff The Dominator in his prime, a tool, yes, but a tool to finish the job. Our highly paid superstar just happened to be the goalie. One of those Rigas years -- might have been 2000-2001 -- the numbers would not suggest Ruff (Regier?) was hamstrung by a budget too much. I think the Sabres sat around 10th in payroll. Remember the floater, Dougie Gilmour, was making 6 million a year.

hasek was a tool

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  On 7/26/2010 at 1:35 PM, That Aud Smell said:

familiar.

 

I like that. And what does familiarity breed, boys and girls?

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  On 7/26/2010 at 1:50 PM, nfreeman said:

...as a rock.

 

or: underappreciated.

 

Lindy Ruff or Lindy Ruff hockey?

 

Lindy himself is not underappreciated. He is overappreciated and overrated.

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  On 7/26/2010 at 1:52 PM, PASabreFan said:

Lindy Ruff or Lindy Ruff hockey?

 

Lindy himself is not underappreciated. He is overappreciated and overrated.

is he overappreciated by Sabres fans? This thread doesn't seem that way.

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  On 7/26/2010 at 1:59 PM, nfreeman said:

is he overappreciated by Sabres fans? This thread doesn't seem that way.

 

Pretty small sample. I think if you grabbed 100 fans heading into the arena on game night, his approval rating would be 90%.

 

Former tough guy Sabre, blue collar, remade Buffalo guy through and through. He can do no wrong in the eyes of the vast majority of fans.

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  On 7/26/2010 at 1:35 PM, That Aud Smell said:
familiar.
  On 7/26/2010 at 1:51 PM, PASabreFan said:
I like that. And what does familiarity breed, boys and girls?

i sorta knew you'd like that one, PA (not that i'm pandering).

 

what i had in mind was that puff piece that vogl did earlier this month where he talked about the niedermayer and lalime signings. specifically, vogl interposed this bit of editorial into his report: "The signings aren't earthshaking moves, but they do supply needed experience and welcome familiarity." TBN has overhauled their website and i can no longer find/access the article, but i did find a re-posting of it here.

 

as then, i question now what it is about our familiarity with this team that should be seen as welcome.

 

i don't begrudge the view that past is prelude and we know that lindy's system and oversight provide a real chance of setting us up for another cup run. i also don't begrudge the view that, in essence, says "enough is enough. out with the old and in with the new. i'd rather suck for a few seasons and see if we can't re-build like the pens or capitals rather than plod along on the path we are now."

 

  On 7/26/2010 at 2:02 PM, PASabreFan said:
Pretty small sample.

and, i think, unrepresentative of the fan base as a whole.

 

  On 7/26/2010 at 2:02 PM, PASabreFan said:
I think if you grabbed 100 fans heading into the arena on game night, his approval rating would be 90%.

90% is high in my view, but it would be north of 70%, i think (which, if presidential approval rating polls are any guide, is an overwhelming approval rating).

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  On 7/26/2010 at 2:02 PM, PASabreFan said:

Pretty small sample. I think if you grabbed 100 fans heading into the arena on game night, his approval rating would be 90%.

 

Former tough guy Sabre, blue collar, remade Buffalo guy through and through. He can do no wrong in the eyes of the vast majority of fans.

 

Small sample is why the writing on this board does not reflect the thinking of most fans. "Do no wrong" probably does not reflex the thinking of most fans either. Where is that judgment from based on? Do you think they are naiev rubes like Mr. Drane. HSBC fans are pretty smart about hockey. Recently I think they analyze more than cheer. It is true of every bar in Buffalo on gamenights too. Most fans are pointing out player and Ruff mistakes every time and they still like Ruff too. Maybe that is hard to notice in PA but I think it is true being in Buffalo. Do you think 90 from 100 like him only based on emotional things?

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