Rob Niedermayer to Buffalo

[RazielSabre]

"The objective here wasn't to bring a forward in and move one out [via trade]. The objective here is to improve the hockey club, and we think we've addressed that," Regier said. "We're looking for fit. We have offense. We can generate the offense, and we think we will be able to continue to generate the offense. I think that the experience of knowing how to win, the experience of knowing how to play in critical situations defensively is really what Rob can bring."

 

Quote from Reiger in the 'Sabres rely on veteran experience' article. Let's hope his right, and out offense works this year because by the sounds of things, this is it.

[gregkash]

If the team stays pat, and then wins the cup, does Deluca get to feel any joy in it? Half the club he doesn't like, and he spends every post on this board saying how bad they are.. I kinda feel like he doesn't get to take part in any of their success should they get some.

[Two or less]

This is a real good move that needed to be done. The big games are not won by the star players, their won by the role players and Niedermayer is a very good role player, with loads of expierence and tons and tons of playoff expierence and a Cup ring. If you remember, the first few rounds of the playoffs are won by the no name role guys, like Steve Begin, Dominic Moore, Scott Thornton and such. This move was needed, i was a major fan to get Ethan Moreau but i think this is even better then getting Moreau.

 

But, they badly need to get a top 6 right winger. Someone who they can put trust in to score 25 goals with a dream of seeing 30. I doubt Bobby Ryan is realistic but they need to fill that RW void. I wouldn't have mind Nik Zherdev, i always thought he was very good in Columbus and in New York he played under a very defensive system where they relied on Lundqvist a lot, thus i think his scoring was down. Although, his points from Russia are a bit scary but it appears Zherdev is going to Philly. Darcy has to have a plan B and if he has to, i think he should package Stafford with a Kassian.

 

This looks like a solid team if they can find a new RWer and they have the money, essp. if they get rid of Stafford.

 

Vanek - Roy - missing

Ennis - Connolly - Pominville

Hecht - Kennedy - Grier

Niedermayer - Goose - Kaleta

[static70]

If the team stays pat, and then wins the cup, does Deluca get to feel any joy in it? Half the club he doesn't like, and he spends every post on this board saying how bad they are.. I kinda feel like he doesn't get to take part in any of their success should they get some.

I realize the humor here, but this current team will not win the Cup, its essentially the same team as last season, just insert Nieds name in place of Mair and Leopolds name in place of Tallinder. Weber is Lydman.

 

Nope, same team, same results. And its really a shame to, Miller looks decent at this age.

[spndnchz]

Wrong Neidermayer. You do realize this is not Scott that played for the Devils all those years? :doh:

 

The Chris and Danny era? That was before all these players signed their big money contracts.

 

Not responding directly to u Luca but it made me think of what kind off numbers a 33 yr old Drury had last year vs a 34 yr old Niedermayer. (leaders et al)

 

10 pts. Drury had 10 more points. 4 what? 6-7 million more? I agree we need more but at that price, I'll take it.

[inkman]

Not responding directly to u Luca but it made me think of what kind off numbers a 33 yr old Drury had last year vs a 34 yr old Niedermayer. (leaders et al)

 

10 pts. Drury had 10 more points. 4 what? 6-7 million more? I agree we need more but at that price, I'll take it.

Well put spinach.

[Stoner]

Wrong Neidermayer. You do realize this is not Scott that played for the Devils all those years? :doh:

 

The Chris and Danny era? That was before all these players signed their big money contracts.

 

I do think it was a clever move by Darce to sign "a Niedermayer." Good hockey name and brand. Rumor has it, he's after a Sutter now.

[spndnchz]

Well put spinach.

 

Oh please ur above that.

[Stoner]

Oh please ur above that.

 

That's what she said.

[deluca67]

If the team stays pat, and then wins the cup, does Deluca get to feel any joy in it? Half the club he doesn't like, and he spends every post on this board saying how bad they are.. I kinda feel like he doesn't get to take part in any of their success should they get some.

If they don't win the Stanley Cup all the Pollyannas should admit I was right? Seems fair doesn't it?

 

Your feelings aside I will probably enjoy a Stanley Cup victory more than you and pretty much anyone else on this board. Just because I refuse to blind myself to the short comings of the current roster doesn't mean I can't enjoy if Miller carries them to a Stanley Cup.

[korab rules]

I do think it was a clever move by Darce to sign "a Niedermayer." Good hockey name and brand. Rumor has it, he's after a Sutter now.

 

Screw the Sutters. Give me a Suter! Ryan would look pretty damn good in OUR Blue and Gold.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

If the team stays pat, and then wins the cup, does Deluca get to feel any joy in it? Half the club he doesn't like, and he spends every post on this board saying how bad they are.. I kinda feel like he doesn't get to take part in any of their success should they get some.

 

I think this is a valid point. I can only speak for myself, but I know that if somehow this current roster and management pulled off a miracle and won it all, I would not enjoy it as much as many of you. Not because I am less of a fan, or because I need to be right.....it's because I have a total lack of respect for 50% of the people that make up that "system". It's better than a few years ago where it was pushing 80%....but the point is, I root for the Sabres because they are part of and represent Buffalo. Buffalo is the city I was born in, grew up in, and returned to. I love my family, my friends, and the people of Buffalo in general. I want those people to enjoy a championship. Not because they are Sabres or Bills fans, but because they are Buffalonians.

 

Now....what do you do in other aspects of life when you don't respect someone? If you want to look at the Sabres as a "family member", maybe an uncle...you are taught from an early age to love your family. You get together at holidays, talk on the phone, have a bbq, etc. But what happens when your uncle starts acting strange? What happens when he comes over and drinks too much at Thanksgiving, and tells you mom she cooks like crap and never should have married your dad? What happens when your uncle takes pills out of the medicine cabinet, and cash out of your wallet, then denies it? What happens when you start getting some curves on you, and your uncle holds that hug 5 seconds too long, or grabs you in a "playfull" manner, laughing it off as all in fun?

 

 

 

I can handle a little boozing from uncle....if he appologizes when he sobers up...no harm no foul....part of the territory of dealing with family.

I can't handle a violation of trust however. When i am lied to, and have my belongings taken from me when I am supposed to trust you....that is a no go. If you are down on your luck and are honest with me....i will do everything i can to help you out or get you help. If you lie to my face.....i want nothing to do with you.

In the last case....I think on this board, for a while there were too many here willing to put up with that behavior. "He's my uncle...he doesn't mean anything by it...I know he loves me and I love him." In the mean time....when you let him get away with that, he starts to get bolder and bolder.....if you aren't going to say anything about it, instead of a long embrace, or pat on the ######...it gets more deliberate. His intentions towards you become more clear...and you better stand up for yourself, or you will have a lifetime of issues. You can't let past good times or loyalty get in the way....kick him in his nads and tell him off.

 

Do I want what's best for the Buffalo family. Yes. Will I stand for my Uncle lying to me and playing grabass....No.

 

I still have plenty of other family members that I trust fully and love. If Uncle Sabre needs to go away awhile until he cleans up his act, then that is what needs to happen. Sometimes a drunk, or a cheat needs to hit rock bottom before the help that is truly needed is sought after. However, he can get by for years just skating by, if those around him let him get away with it. He's never going to make something of himself or have your full trust if he keeps doing what he's doing. Something has to change.

 

Maybe DeLuca will enjoy a Stanley Cup full bore, but I won't...because I can't. Not with this uncle. Hope all you want, and smile when he's in the crowd at your high school graduation....but 3 hours later, when you are at the after party, and he's on Corona #10, I hope you can keep smiling when he puts that icecube down your top and mushes it all around. After all.....you love him, right?

[carpandean]

Well put spinach.

Oh please ur above that.

Oh, I'm strong to the finish, when I eats me spinach! :bag:

[Robviously]

I do think it was a clever move by Darce to sign "a Niedermayer." Good hockey name and brand. Rumor has it, he's after a Sutter now.

Not to mention that we have "a Foligno" in the minors.

[wonderbread]

I think this is a valid point. I can only speak for myself, but I know that if somehow this current roster and management pulled off a miracle and won it all, I would not enjoy it as much as many of you. Not because I am less of a fan, or because I need to be right.....it's because I have a total lack of respect for 50% of the people that make up that "system". It's better than a few years ago where it was pushing 80%....but the point is, I root for the Sabres because they are part of and represent Buffalo. Buffalo is the city I was born in, grew up in, and returned to. I love my family, my friends, and the people of Buffalo in general. I want those people to enjoy a championship. Not because they are Sabres or Bills fans, but because they are Buffalonians.

 

Now....what do you do in other aspects of life when you don't respect someone? If you want to look at the Sabres as a "family member", maybe an uncle...you are taught from an early age to love your family. You get together at holidays, talk on the phone, have a bbq, etc. But what happens when your uncle starts acting strange? What happens when he comes over and drinks too much at Thanksgiving, and tells you mom she cooks like crap and never should have married your dad? What happens when your uncle takes pills out of the medicine cabinet, and cash out of your wallet, then denies it? What happens when you start getting some curves on you, and your uncle holds that hug 5 seconds too long, or grabs you in a "playfull" manner, laughing it off as all in fun?

 

 

 

I can handle a little boozing from uncle....if he appologizes when he sobers up...no harm no foul....part of the territory of dealing with family.

I can't handle a violation of trust however. When i am lied to, and have my belongings taken from me when I am supposed to trust you....that is a no go. If you are down on your luck and are honest with me....i will do everything i can to help you out or get you help. If you lie to my face.....i want nothing to do with you.

In the last case....I think on this board, for a while there were too many here willing to put up with that behavior. "He's my uncle...he doesn't mean anything by it...I know he loves me and I love him." In the mean time....when you let him get away with that, he starts to get bolder and bolder.....if you aren't going to say anything about it, instead of a long embrace, or pat on the ######...it gets more deliberate. His intentions towards you become more clear...and you better stand up for yourself, or you will have a lifetime of issues. You can't let past good times or loyalty get in the way....kick him in his nads and tell him off.

 

Do I want what's best for the Buffalo family. Yes. Will I stand for my Uncle lying to me and playing grabass....No.

 

I still have plenty of other family members that I trust fully and love. If Uncle Sabre needs to go away awhile until he cleans up his act, then that is what needs to happen. Sometimes a drunk, or a cheat needs to hit rock bottom before the help that is truly needed is sought after. However, he can get by for years just skating by, if those around him let him get away with it. He's never going to make something of himself or have your full trust if he keeps doing what he's doing. Something has to change.

 

Maybe DeLuca will enjoy a Stanley Cup full bore, but I won't...because I can't. Not with this uncle. Hope all you want, and smile when he's in the crowd at your high school graduation....but 3 hours later, when you are at the after party, and he's on Corona #10, I hope you can keep smiling when he puts that icecube down your top and mushes it all around. After all.....you love him, right?

 

 

Wow is all I have to say!!!!

[Stoner]

I think this is a valid point. I can only speak for myself, but I know that if somehow this current roster and management pulled off a miracle and won it all, I would not enjoy it as much as many of you. Not because I am less of a fan, or because I need to be right.....it's because I have a total lack of respect for 50% of the people that make up that "system". It's better than a few years ago where it was pushing 80%....but the point is, I root for the Sabres because they are part of and represent Buffalo. Buffalo is the city I was born in, grew up in, and returned to. I love my family, my friends, and the people of Buffalo in general. I want those people to enjoy a championship. Not because they are Sabres or Bills fans, but because they are Buffalonians.

 

Now....what do you do in other aspects of life when you don't respect someone? If you want to look at the Sabres as a "family member", maybe an uncle...you are taught from an early age to love your family. You get together at holidays, talk on the phone, have a bbq, etc. But what happens when your uncle starts acting strange? What happens when he comes over and drinks too much at Thanksgiving, and tells you mom she cooks like crap and never should have married your dad? What happens when your uncle takes pills out of the medicine cabinet, and cash out of your wallet, then denies it? What happens when you start getting some curves on you, and your uncle holds that hug 5 seconds too long, or grabs you in a "playfull" manner, laughing it off as all in fun?

 

 

 

I can handle a little boozing from uncle....if he appologizes when he sobers up...no harm no foul....part of the territory of dealing with family.

I can't handle a violation of trust however. When i am lied to, and have my belongings taken from me when I am supposed to trust you....that is a no go. If you are down on your luck and are honest with me....i will do everything i can to help you out or get you help. If you lie to my face.....i want nothing to do with you.

In the last case....I think on this board, for a while there were too many here willing to put up with that behavior. "He's my uncle...he doesn't mean anything by it...I know he loves me and I love him." In the mean time....when you let him get away with that, he starts to get bolder and bolder.....if you aren't going to say anything about it, instead of a long embrace, or pat on the ######...it gets more deliberate. His intentions towards you become more clear...and you better stand up for yourself, or you will have a lifetime of issues. You can't let past good times or loyalty get in the way....kick him in his nads and tell him off.

 

Do I want what's best for the Buffalo family. Yes. Will I stand for my Uncle lying to me and playing grabass....No.

 

I still have plenty of other family members that I trust fully and love. If Uncle Sabre needs to go away awhile until he cleans up his act, then that is what needs to happen. Sometimes a drunk, or a cheat needs to hit rock bottom before the help that is truly needed is sought after. However, he can get by for years just skating by, if those around him let him get away with it. He's never going to make something of himself or have your full trust if he keeps doing what he's doing. Something has to change.

 

Maybe DeLuca will enjoy a Stanley Cup full bore, but I won't...because I can't. Not with this uncle. Hope all you want, and smile when he's in the crowd at your high school graduation....but 3 hours later, when you are at the after party, and he's on Corona #10, I hope you can keep smiling when he puts that icecube down your top and mushes it all around. After all.....you love him, right?

 

That's it. That's it. Let it out. Let it out.

 

Go on. Then what happened?

[shrader]

I'm still trying to figure out what action from that uncle would equate to the Sabres winning the Cup.

[static70]

That's it. That's it. Let it out. Let it out.

 

Go on. Then what happened?

Priceless............ :worthy:

 

So, my sisters husbands fathers cousin, well, she was at our family reunion and tipped over the potato salad and aunt charlenes poodle (I feel sorry for that dog, with that hair cut) started eating it. That was bad enough, but then Dad came over (he was hammered), picked up the remaining salad and actually tried to serve it to the rest of the family. I still puke when I think of Grandma Irene eating that potato salad........................ :rolleyes:

[cdexchange]

What the ###### just happened here? :unsure:

[wjag]

What the ###### just happened here? :unsure:

 

 

Looks like a therapy session broke out. Sabrespace is like a box of chocolates.....

[Stoner]

I'm still trying to figure out what action from that uncle would equate to the Sabres winning the Cup.

 

He wins the lottery and asks you to move into his new condo with you and your little sister?

[static70]

I really can't fault the ghost of DD for feeling this way, its been so frustrating all these years without a Stanley Cup it was bound to start driving some of the fans to some deeply repressed memories.

 

I bet DeLuca hasn't had a good nights sleep since Ruff and Regier were hired. PA, any suggestions to help this fan cope? B-)

[That Aud Smell]

If you want to look at the Sabres as a "family member", maybe an uncle...

ghost, i don't want to make light of your metaphor, but, for me, the predicate is mislaid.

 

i do not want to think of the sabres as a family member. and i won't. rather, i think of them as my beloved hometown hockey team. that's it.

 

i'll offer some simple examples of the divergence: when pominville [sic?] scored the series clincher against ott'wa, i was at the e.r. with my 2nd-born. nothing too serious. she couldn't breathe owing to some weird croup/asthma thing that came on like a house of fire, and then faded quickly and hasn't returned since (thankfully). the other kids were in bed, one of whom was a new baby, so i rode in the ambulance to the hospital during the second period. another one that may make the point more clearly: when drury scored the last second goal to tie the rangers? i was at a recital with my 1st-born, who'd worked her tuckus off to "master" (sort of) a chopin piece on the piano. i was (am) so damn proud of her for that.

 

so, the sabres aren't a family member. i don't even need to "like" the "boys in the room" (ugh) let alone the FO or the owner in order to take joy in the team's successes and take pain from its failures. it's a bonus if i perceive a few of the players as good guys, but, really, what the ###### do i know about them, really? answer: i don't.

 

if and when the sabres win a cup, i will be screaming my fool head off wherever i am, irrespective of who's on the team, irrespective of who's running the team, irrespective of who's signing the checks.

[nfreeman]

So LQ is a child molester? I had no idea! Sounds true though. I'll start telling everyone I know.

[wonderbread]

So LQ is a child molester? I had no idea! Sounds true though. I'll start telling everyone I know.

You know everything you read on the internets is true, right?