Brian Campbell

[Billfold100]

This was rumored on hockeybuzz? Doesn't that automatically mean it is b.s.?

[inkman]

This was rumored on hockeybuzz? Doesn't that automatically mean it is b.s.?

Yes

[inkman]

It's not Darcy who would control that decision, it's Golisano and by extension, Quinn who control the pursestrings. Darcy can only spend what he's allowed to spend.

Which has been at or near the cap for several seasons. This off- season will be telling.

 

Fifteen million in cap space, 6 forwards, 2 dmen and a goalie to sign. (including Kaleta and Kennedy)

[Kristian]

Yes

 

Thank god.

[static70]

It's not Darcy who would control that decision, it's Golisano and by extension, Quinn who control the pursestrings. Darcy can only spend what he's allowed to spend.

This makes no sense at all.

The team already spends right close to the cap, so how again do Tommy G and Larry Q control the player decisions?

This is a false hood until some one shows proof that these 2 have been directly involved in decisions such as this. So far it is all circumstantial.

[rickshaw]

No thanks on Soupy. His contract is ridiculous. He was the 5th d man for Chicago in the playoffs. He is one bad contract and that is why Big Buff got traded.

[tom webster]

This makes no sense at all.

The team already spends right close to the cap, so how again do Tommy G and Larry Q control the player decisions?

This is a false hood until some one shows proof that these 2 have been directly involved in decisions such as this. So far it is all circumstantial.

 

 

Golisano is on record as saying that he made all financial decisions and approved all signings up to one year ago at least. What he has been doing the last year, who knows. If you don't think any owner would be involved in a financial decision like this, well then...

[Bullwinkle]

This makes no sense at all.

The team already spends right close to the cap, so how again do Tommy G and Larry Q control the player decisions?

This is a false hood until some one shows proof that these 2 have been directly involved in decisions such as this. So far it is all circumstantial.

 

 

If you know business, you know Golisano. No businessman invests millions and then trusts underlings to make all the financial decisions. He wouldn't be where he is if he did that. Neither would any other billionaire.

[nfreeman]

No thanks on Soupy. His contract is ridiculous. He was the 5th d man for Chicago in the playoffs. He is one bad contract and that is why Big Buff got traded.

This is a canard that's been repeated a few times by a few different posters. Soupy was not their 5th defenseman in the playoffs. He and Hjalmarsson were the 2nd pairing, and Soupy was #4 in ice time among Chicago's defensemen. He also got more ice time as the playoffs went on, which made sense because he was coming back from a broken collarbone or clavicle or something at the start of the playoffs. In game 5 of the SCF he was #2 on the team in ice time and and game 6 he was #3 among defensemen.

 

If you know business, you know Golisano. No businessman invests millions and then trusts underlings to make all the financial decisions. He wouldn't be where he is if he did that. Neither would any other billionaire.

+1

[stenbaro]

This is a canard that's been repeated a few times by a few different posters. Soupy was not their 5th defenseman in the playoffs. He and Hjalmarsson were the 2nd pairing, and Soupy was #4 in ice time among Chicago's defensemen. He also got more ice time as the playoffs went on, which made sense because he was coming back from a broken collarbone or clavicle or something at the start of the playoffs. In game 5 of the SCF he was #2 on the team in ice time and and game 6 he was #3 among defensemen.

 

 

+1

Dont try reasoning with the majority here about Campbell. They still hold it against him for his ridiculous salary...I think it funny that the Sabres would even be entertaining acquiring him at that salary when they coulda had him for a whole lot less a long time ago..Whoever is the man with the final say in the execution of theyre contract negotiations oughta be hung..And if he is still making those decisions which I have the feeling he is then who really cares what this team does in the offseason because more than likely it will make even the most ignorant fan want to regurgitate anything he might have consumed in the past 24 hrs when all is said and done...

[inkman]

I think it funny that the Sabres would even be entertaining acquiring him at that salary when they coulda had him for a whole lot less a long time ago..

They aren't.

[gregkash]

If soupy could be had for a cheaper price, i'd do it. But not at 7MM. Sorry, I love soupy I do. but 7MM is a 40g scorer.

[Kristian]

If soupy could be had for a cheaper price, i'd do it. But not at 7MM. Sorry, I love soupy I do. but 7MM is a 40g scorer.

 

Or, according to Lindy, a two-way forward.

[VansTheMans]

Or, according to Lindy, a two-way forward.

 

Zing. :nana:

[carpandean]

Or, according to Lindy, a two-way forward.

Hmm, Sidney Crosby, Marian Hossa, Pavel Datsyuk, Patrick Marleau, ... maybe he's right.

[SwampD]

Hmm, Sidney Crosby, Marian Hossa, Pavel Datsyuk, Patrick Marleau, ... maybe he's right.

Hubris.

 

Those players already played like that. They weren't their coaches little project to make them "one of the best two way forwards in the NHL."

[tom webster]

Hubris.

 

Those players already played like that. They weren't their coaches little project to make them "one of the best two way forwards in the NHL."

 

 

One situation that does remind me of Vanek, however, is Mike Modano. HItchcock did with him what Ruff is trying to do with Vanek. Modano hated Hitchcock when he first got there but he will tell you now that he saved his career.

[SwampD]

One situation that does remind me of Vanek, however, is Mike Modano. HItchcock did with him what Ruff is trying to do with Vanek. Modano hated Hitchcock when he first got there but he will tell you now that he saved his career.

Although, I don't remember Modano skating to the "dirty areas" of the ice (maybe he did and I just don't remember it.) Asking Vanek to skate a full 180 feet and then get beat up in front of the net is foolish in my eyes. He's got to much skill.

[shrader]

Hmm, Sidney Crosby, Marian Hossa, Pavel Datsyuk, Patrick Marleau, ... maybe he's right.

 

One thin free agency class and all of a sudden Marleau is mentioned in the same sentence as those other guys.

[tom webster]

Although, I don't remember Modano skating to the "dirty areas" of the ice (maybe he did and I just don't remember it.) Asking Vanek to skate a full 180 feet and then get beat up in front of the net is foolish in my eyes. He's got to much skill.

 

 

Whis is why I think he needs a right winger with speed and passing ability to create space. Vanek had to go to the front because his best chance at scoring was finding a Stafford rebound.

[carpandean]

One thin free agency class and all of a sudden Marleau is mentioned in the same sentence as those other guys.

He's definitely not on the same level as those other three, but neither is Vanek. Marleau has been a consistent 30G (give or take a goal; recently, far more), 80P (again, give or take a few) player, who has become a very strong two-way player. He's also about $7 million per.

[shrader]

He's definitely not on the same level as those other three, but neither is Vanek. Marleau has been a consistent 30G (give or take a goal; recently, far more), 80P (again, give or take a few) player, who has become a very strong two-way player. He's also about $7 million per.

 

Except the 07-08 season of course. But yes, he's been a consistent 30G guy ever since Thornton was shipped to San Jose. That's no coincidence. The other big thing about him is that he was a consistent no show in the playoffs up until this year.

 

One other thing I just noticed from looking at his stats. He's from Saskatchewan and played in the WHL. I always assumed he was straight out of Quebec and played in the Q. I guess I should watch more west coast hockey.

[SwampD]

He's definitely not on the same level as those other three, but neither is Vanek. Marleau has been a consistent 30G (give or take a goal; recently, far more), 80P (again, give or take a few) player, who has become a very strong two-way player. He's also about $7 million per.

The problem I have is isn't Vanek already a pretty strong two-way forward? In fact, he's one of the more defensively responsible forwards on this team. I can think of a few others that should have been Lindy's pet projects first.

[tom webster]

Except the 07-08 season of course. But yes, he's been a consistent 30G guy ever since Thornton was shipped to San Jose. That's no coincidence. The other big thing about him is that he was a consistent no show in the playoffs up until this year.

 

One other thing I just noticed from looking at his stats. He's from Saskatchewan and played in the WHL. I always assumed he was straight out of Quebec and played in the Q. I guess I should watch more west coast hockey.

 

 

I always thought he got a bad rap with the playoffs. He's nowhere the no show that Thornton is. 45 goals and 75 points in 106 games.

[carpandean]

Except the 07-08 season of course. But yes, he's been a consistent 30G guy ever since Thornton was shipped to San Jose. That's no coincidence. The other big thing about him is that he was a consistent no show in the playoffs up until this year.

No doubt that having Thorton helps. Something has changed in his game since 2007-08. It's not just his +/-, but he also went from almost no SH time to several minutes per game. Watching him this year, he was very responsible defensively and made some really great plays to breakup opportunities.

 

Regardless, there are lots of top-tier (some superstar-tier) players who are not just one-way offensive players.