BillHoppe Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 Or is it Biron or someone else? Backup goalie market is slim, in my opinion. Moose Hedberg wouldn't be bad, though. Enroth? I wrote about it last week.
nucci Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 THINK! Anyone THINK Are you getting upset because no one is responding at 1:30 in the morning?
darksabre Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 My feeling is that Darcy is looking at other options. What those are is anyones guess.
nfreeman Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 Or is it Biron or someone else? Backup goalie market is slim, in my opinion. Moose Hedberg wouldn't be bad, though. Enroth? I wrote about it last week. THINK! Anyone THINK Bill, I'm glad you're here and I like your work, but (i) it's hard to see how the goalie market is "slim" -- there are a ton of goalies looking for work and (ii) what in the world does your 2nd post mean?
rbochan Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 Lord I hope Lalime doesn't return. He shows up not ready to play, and lets in 2-3 goals in the first few minutes. Then he's ready and he'll stop 20+ shots after he's ###### the team and taken any wind out of their sails. It's a backup's job to be ready to play cold. If they can't do that, then they shouldn't be a back up.
static70 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 Or is it Biron or someone else? Backup goalie market is slim, in my opinion. Moose Hedberg wouldn't be bad, though. Enroth? I wrote about it last week. Well Bill, based upon that interview with Regier, I would think the organization feels Enroth could use another season in the AHL. Besides, the Sabres have developed a track record of developing goalies internally through a maticules, lengthy process. And it has born some fruit. As for this up coming season back up, I believe they don't resign Patty, they may go after Biron, he is familiar with the organization, comes at a decent price, is very capable of taking on 25 to 30 games successfully and relieving some of the work load off of Miller and is respected by the team members. I would go after him, if not him, the list of available, capable backups is there for Regier and his team to investigate. Just my 2 pennies.
BillHoppe Posted June 25, 2010 Author Report Posted June 25, 2010 Bill, I'm glad you're here and I like your work, but (i) it's hard to see how the goalie market is "slim" -- there are a ton of goalies looking for work and (ii) what in the world does your 2nd post mean? I wrote "thinks" in the title. I don't believe the goalie market is stocked. Look at this list. You think Turco or Nakokov are going to come here for $1.1 million and play 17 games? They're also well over 30 and on the downside of their careers. Is Ellis going to want to come here? It's possible but unlikely. I don't think it's that good a crop. Emery? TOSKALA?
nfreeman Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 I wrote "thinks" in the title. I don't believe the goalie market is stocked. Look at this list. You think Turco or Nakokov are going to come here for $1.1 million and play 17 games? They're also well over 30 and on the downside of their careers. Is Ellis going to want to come here? It's possible but unlikely. I don't think it's that good a crop. Emery? TOSKALA? I agree on Turco and Nabby, but those are probably the only 2 of the UFAs on that list that are going to be NHL starters next year. I think most will prefer a $1.1MM backup job in the NHL to going overseas and most are better than Lalime.
spndnchz Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 After the comments Ryan made at the NHL Awards about how Patty helped him through and all that, I'd see him coming back.
tom webster Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 After the comments Ryan made at the NHL Awards about how Patty helped him through and all that, I'd see him coming back. The problem with finding a back up goalie is that it takes a special mind set to do the job. Just because I guy is a potential number one guy doesn't make him an ideal candidate for the back up role. I think it is likely that Lalime is back as well. The players like him and I'm not sure anyone out there would do a better job.
shrader Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 I'm finding a hard time caring either way when it comes to Lalime. Here comes that defense that half the board is going to scream about, but they won the division with him on the roster last year. That backup spot really isn't the most important of slots on the roster. Yes, there's always that risk of Miller getting hurt, but if that does happen, that is when Enroth steps into his trial by fire.
darksabre Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 After the comments Ryan made at the NHL Awards about how Patty helped him through and all that, I'd see him coming back. Patty might be a mentor, but he's being paid to net mind. Bring him on as a goalie coach or something if that's the purpose he serves.
BillHoppe Posted June 25, 2010 Author Report Posted June 25, 2010 Lalime had MUCH better numbers last year. Yes, I know Biron played for the Islanders. Still ...
nfreeman Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 After the comments Ryan made at the NHL Awards about how Patty helped him through and all that, I'd see him coming back. The problem with finding a back up goalie is that it takes a special mind set to do the job. Just because I guy is a potential number one guy doesn't make him an ideal candidate for the back up role. I think it is likely that Lalime is back as well. The players like him and I'm not sure anyone out there would do a better job. I'm finding a hard time caring either way when it comes to Lalime. Here comes that defense that half the board is going to scream about, but they won the division with him on the roster last year. That backup spot really isn't the most important of slots on the roster. Yes, there's always that risk of Miller getting hurt, but if that does happen, that is when Enroth steps into his trial by fire. But wouldn't you rather have Biron? The cost will probably be about the same.
spndnchz Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 Patty might be a mentor, but he's being paid to net mind. Bring him on as a goalie coach or something if that's the purpose he serves. Good point.
shrader Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 But wouldn't you rather have Biron? The cost will probably be about the same. Like Bill just hinted at, I'm not so sure it matters. But from an entertainment point of view, yes, I'd absolutely love to have Marty's personality around.
tom webster Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 I'm finding a hard time caring either way when it comes to Lalime. Here comes that defense that half the board is going to scream about, but they won the division with him on the roster last year. That backup spot really isn't the most important of slots on the roster. Yes, there's always that risk of Miller getting hurt, but if that does happen, that is when Enroth steps into his trial by fire. Well said.
1970sabre Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 But wouldn't you rather have Biron? The cost will probably be about the same. Knowing Darcy like we do...it will come down to who he can get the cheapest...living in Buffalo on $800,000 a year seams easy enough. They are a horse a piece...both avg goalies who are liked by teammates...2 years at 1.5 mil should get one of them.
nobody Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 I "thinks" that Darcy will check out Biron first to see his interest in signing a 1 year deal. Then he will go back and sign Lalime to a 1 year deal in the end when he can't get Marty at the right price. Oh by the way Bill - if you go back to your first post and edit it with the full editor you will be able to update the title. Just figured that out myself with my Darcy on WGR thread. :)
nfreeman Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 2 years at 1.5 mil should get one of them. They will stampede to his door for that offer. Marty made $1.4MM last year, on a 1-year deal, and Lalime made $1.0MM on a 2-year deal. I have no interest in giving any backup goalie a 2-year deal.
Bullwinkle Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 I'm finding a hard time caring either way when it comes to Lalime. Here comes that defense that half the board is going to scream about, but they won the division with him on the roster last year. That backup spot really isn't the most important of slots on the roster. Yes, there's always that risk of Miller getting hurt, but if that does happen, that is when Enroth steps into his trial by fire. If I recall properly, that's what happened to Miller. He was called up and was clearly out of place as he was peppered with shots. He flopped around with such futility that you felt sorry for him. My concern was that it might damage his psyche and ruin his future but fortunately he was made of sterner stuff. I wouldn't do that to any goalie if I could avoid it. The team loves LaLime - that's obvious and the fans love Biron - equally obvious. Pick one and be done with it.
shrader Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 If I recall properly, that's what happened to Miller. He was called up and was clearly out of place as he was peppered with shots. He flopped around with such futility that you felt sorry for him. My concern was that it might damage his psyche and ruin his future but fortunately he was made of sterner stuff. I wouldn't do that to any goalie if I could avoid it. The team loves LaLime - that's obvious and the fans love Biron - equally obvious. Pick one and be done with it. What I suggested with Enroth does include signing someone as the backup. In that worst case scenario where Miller does get hurt, the only thing that stops Enroth from coming up and filling that void is if the team brings in a 3rd goalie, which isn't happening.
BillHoppe Posted June 25, 2010 Author Report Posted June 25, 2010 What I suggested with Enroth does include signing someone as the backup. In that worst case scenario where Miller does get hurt, the only thing that stops Enroth from coming up and filling that void is if the team brings in a 3rd goalie, which isn't happening. They will sign a backup, whether it's Lalime, Biron or Curtis Sanford to play in Portland. I think if Enroth starts in Portland (likely), he could still be the guy if Miller got hurt.
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