tom webster Posted June 23, 2010 Report Posted June 23, 2010 http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=325481 Anyone want to worry how Chicago or Philly for that matter is going to survive?
Bullwinkle Posted June 23, 2010 Report Posted June 23, 2010 This is good news for Philly and Chicago, not great news. They will still have a very hard time keeping what they have. Which by the way, is a major obstacle for the Bruins in getting Kaberle. I still say they will have to dump salary.
shrader Posted June 24, 2010 Report Posted June 24, 2010 It was never about whether or not they'd survive. We all knew they'd still be a very strong team, but they are not as good anymore as they were this year. They're not done yet either. 3 NHL defensemen and 8 forwards signed. There's still more than enough work left to do there.
tom webster Posted June 24, 2010 Author Report Posted June 24, 2010 It was never about whether or not they'd survive. We all knew they'd still be a very strong team, but they are not as good anymore as they were this year. They're not done yet either. 3 NHL defensemen and 8 forwards signed. There's still more than enough work left to do there. I know survive was an exageration. They will stil have to make moves but if this allows them to at least say they will just send Huet to the minors to create more leverage. I'll still take their top 8 as my starting point and I wouldn't bet against them still being best in the leasgue.
Bullwinkle Posted June 24, 2010 Report Posted June 24, 2010 I know survive was an exageration. They will stil have to make moves but if this allows them to at least say they will just send Huet to the minors to create more leverage. I'll still take their top 8 as my starting point and I wouldn't bet against them still being best in the leasgue. Byfuglien, Sopel, Eager to Atlanta. BTW any trade involving Byfuglien had to include Sopel because the Hawks wanted to dump his salary in the worst way. Did I not say "Trust me?" Philly will be next.
shrader Posted June 24, 2010 Report Posted June 24, 2010 I know survive was an exageration. They will stil have to make moves but if this allows them to at least say they will just send Huet to the minors to create more leverage. I'll still take their top 8 as my starting point and I wouldn't bet against them still being best in the leasgue. Oh yeah, they're deep, but they just had to drop a guy who was one of their most valuable guys during their cup run. That's pretty significant. As for them being among the best, I completely expect that, but then again, I want to wait and see what happens with all 30 teams before I start making that judgment. The other thing I can't get out of my mind is that they might not want to bite that bullet and send Huet down. But if they do, what happens if Niemi or Crawford get hurt and they need to bring up a goalie? Ideally they're going to permanently move either him or some of the other excessive money and they will still try to do exactly that.
inkman Posted June 24, 2010 Report Posted June 24, 2010 Did I not say "Trust me?" Philly will be next. Hope you didn't strain your elbow patting yourself on the back. Chicago traded a third line winger, a 4th or 5th defenseman and a goon for high draft picks, cap room and bodies to fill out their roster. Sounds like a win for them.
shrader Posted June 24, 2010 Report Posted June 24, 2010 Hope you didn't strain your elbow patting yourself on the back. Chicago traded a third line winger, a 4th or 5th defenseman and a goon for high draft picks, cap room and bodies to fill out their roster. Sounds like a win for them. One body to fill their roster. Morin's just a prospect at this point and should be back in juniors again this year. Your point still stand though. They did quite well on this deal.
Bullwinkle Posted June 24, 2010 Report Posted June 24, 2010 This trade was purely about salary. It didn't hurt that Chicago also made out fairly well in the trade, but a trade had to me made for cap reasons alone. Byfuglien 3 mil Sopel 3.5 mil Eager <1 mil Aliu - in minors Reasoner 1.5 mil Morin - in minors So basically the Hawks gained 6+ mil which they sorely need if they want to keep Sharp and Versteeg. Plus as I said, they did very well. Aliu has struggled as a pro, while Morin shows a lot of promise. Can Atlanta get Byfuglien to be the monster he was in the playoffs? Probably not. He's never totaled more than 36 points. Eager will supply needed agressiveness. Meanwhile Reasoner will be a solid 4th line center for the Hawks PLUS they get two picks.
nfreeman Posted June 24, 2010 Report Posted June 24, 2010 This trade was purely about salary. It didn't hurt that Chicago also made out fairly well in the trade, but a trade had to me made for cap reasons alone. Byfuglien 3 mil Sopel 3.5 mil Eager <1 mil Aliu - in minors Reasoner 1.5 mil Morin - in minors So basically the Hawks gained 6+ mil which they sorely need if they want to keep Sharp and Versteeg. Plus as I said, they did very well. Aliu has struggled as a pro, while Morin shows a lot of promise. Can Atlanta get Byfuglien to be the monster he was in the playoffs? Probably not. He's never totaled more than 36 points. Eager will supply needed agressiveness. Meanwhile Reasoner will be a solid 4th line center for the Hawks PLUS they get two picks. I generally agree with this post, and 100% agree that this trade was about Chicago getting cap relief, but with a slight correction: Sopel's cap # is $2.33MM. BTW, capgeek.com is a good source for team salary & cap info.
shrader Posted June 24, 2010 Report Posted June 24, 2010 I generally agree with this post, and 100% agree that this trade was about Chicago getting cap relief, but with a slight correction: Sopel's cap # is $2.33MM. BTW, capgeek.com is a good source for team salary & cap info. And two other quick notes, Morin's still in juniors and Eager doesn't actually have a contract yet, so technically they save no cap space by moving him.
nobody Posted June 24, 2010 Report Posted June 24, 2010 Meanwhile Reasoner will be a solid 4th line center for the Hawks PLUS they get two picks. Or they will send him to the minors if they need the cap space.
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