Would you like Bucky Gleason to replace Darcy?

[Bullwinkle]

What did you think of Gleason's GM moves (stated in today's Buffalo News)?

 

While I agree with him that Sharp would be a welcome addition, I disagree about Souray. Too many injuries for the price IMO.

 

I agreed with most of what he said in principle, although there is very little chance Chicago will let Sharp go.

[nfreeman]

What did you think of Gleason's GM moves (stated in today's Buffalo News)?

 

While I agree with him that Sharp would be a welcome addition, I disagree about Souray. Too many injuries for the price IMO.

 

I agreed with most of what he said in principle, although there is very little chance Chicago will let Sharp go.

I felt pretty much the way you described here. I liked Bucky's emphasis on "gamers." I thought he scapegoated Connolly a bit much -- Roy, Pommer and Stafford were passengers just as much as TC was -- but I'm fine with letting TC go as part of bringing in some new blood. I think Souray would be a bad idea, but as I've said previously I would love to get Sharp (although I agree that Chicago probably won't trade him).

 

One thought I have about Bucky is that he seems to have zero sources within the organization. He never seems to predict any kind of organizational move -- it's just commentary on moves that have already happened.

[wonderbread]

I felt pretty much the way you described here. I liked Bucky's emphasis on "gamers." I thought he scapegoated Connolly a bit much -- Roy, Pommer and Stafford were passengers just as much as TC was -- but I'm fine with letting TC go as part of bringing in some new blood. I think Souray would be a bad idea, but as I've said previously I would love to get Sharp (although I agree that Chicago probably won't trade him).

 

One thought I have about Bucky is that he seems to have zero sources within the organization. He never seems to predict any kind of organizational move -- it's just commentary on moves that have already happened.

 

 

Bucky has burnt way to many bridges down at OSP to have any insider info.

[spndnchz]

Do I want to replace my va-jay-jay with a ######? Hellno.

[LabattBlue]

What did you think of Gleason's GM moves (stated in today's Buffalo News)?

 

While I agree with him that Sharp would be a welcome addition, I disagree about Souray. Too many injuries for the price IMO.

 

I agreed with most of what he said in principle, although there is very little chance Chicago will let Sharp go.

A link to the article makes it easier to comment on it. ;)

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/06/22/1091132/gleason-grit-and-game.html

[tom webster]

Bucky has burnt way to many bridges down at OSP to have any insider info.

 

 

 

Believe it or not, Bucky has a pretty good rapport with some of the players but you are right, he is not exactly tight with the inner circle.

[shrader]

One thing that Bucky never mentions when he does this each year is the point of view of the player. While a media member (Gleason) or a front office type my think a specific salary and contract length is reasonable for a someone, that player might have a completely different idea. Kennedy is a good example this year. He says to sign him for 3 years at a decent increase. Well maybe Kennedy is completely content on playing at his qualifying offer so that he can have a strong season and get a much bigger contract the next year. Every signing Gleason suggests hinges on him being correct on his estimates, a very big if.

 

The whole thing is complete fantasy, which is fine. I assume the question in the thread title was made with tongue in cheek, but just in case it wasn't, Gleason has absolutely no idea/experience with how this works. You can make these suggestions in fantasy land, but once you have a real checkbook in your hand and real assets, things get very different.

[Bullwinkle]

Oh trust me...it was definitely tongue in cheek.

 

BTW sorry for not posting the link.

[shrader]

Oh trust me...it was definitely tongue in cheek.

 

BTW sorry for not posting the link.

 

You can never be too sure around here anymore.

[sabrefan39]

What did you think of Gleason's GM moves (stated in today's Buffalo News)?

 

While I agree with him that Sharp would be a welcome addition, I disagree about Souray. Too many injuries for the price IMO.

 

I agreed with most of what he said in principle, although there is very little chance Chicago will let Sharp go.

 

I think Bucky had some good ideas. Putting names out there is though b/c it's hard to get deals done, but we need a center, powerplay qb, and winger so not bad. I have wondered about acquiring Matt Lombari's rights over the weekend for Roy or Conolly then sign him before FA starts.

[MATTHEWALLEN]

If Bucky was our GM we'd be stuck with Jay "Less Goals then Lydman" Bouwmeester and his inflated 7 million plus contract.

 

Matt Cullen= yes, 2 way player, who's game and wont cost alot.

 

Souray and Kaberle are overpriced.

 

Sharp wont be traded.

 

The Sharks will sign Patrick Marleau.

 

Roy and Connolly are on the block and we're not gonna get anything that'll make that big of an impact.

 

Roy cause he's a douche.

 

Connolly because he's a weak player and lacks leadership qualities.

 

I totally expect one of these guys to still be on the team come October. If not both. It dont look good this offseason. You can look at Plekanec's 30 million for 6 years as an example of "There's nothing better out there this year".

[bunomatic]

Buckys moves sound familiar. My guess is he's been reading this board.

[deluca67]

Just hand me the GM job so we can start the journey to a Stanley Cup victory. :thumbsup:

[nfreeman]

If Bucky was our GM we'd be stuck with Jay "Less Goals then Lydman" Bouwmeester and his inflated 7 million plus contract.

 

Matt Cullen= yes, 2 way player, who's game and wont cost alot.

 

Souray and Kaberle are overpriced.

 

Sharp wont be traded.

 

The Sharks will sign Patrick Marleau.

 

Roy and Connolly are on the block and we're not gonna get anything that'll make that big of an impact.

 

Roy cause he's a douche.

 

Connolly because he's a weak player and lacks leadership qualities.

 

I totally expect one of these guys to still be on the team come October. If not both. It dont look good this offseason. You can look at Plekanec's 30 million for 6 years as an example of "There's nothing better out there this year".

I mostly agree with this post, although I don't think Kaberle is overpriced (for his contract, that is -- he might be overpriced in the sense that the Leafs might be demanding too much for him in trade). As for Marleau, he might re-sign with SJ, but if it doesn't happen by Sunday I don't think it will happen at all. I think Roy would fetch a pretty decent return in trade. TC, not so much, but mostly because he only has 1 year left on his contract.

[Marvelo]

I'm not sure I'd want a GM named "Bucky." Sounds like he'd get fleeced in a minute.

 

Here's my choice for GM: http://twitter.com/DobberHockey

[Bullwinkle]

If Bucky was our GM we'd be stuck with Jay "Less Goals then Lydman" Bouwmeester and his inflated 7 million plus contract.

 

Matt Cullen= yes, 2 way player, who's game and wont cost alot.

 

Souray and Kaberle are overpriced.

 

Sharp wont be traded.

 

The Sharks will sign Patrick Marleau.

 

Roy and Connolly are on the block and we're not gonna get anything that'll make that big of an impact.

 

Roy cause he's a douche.

 

Connolly because he's a weak player and lacks leadership qualities.

 

I totally expect one of these guys to still be on the team come October. If not both. It dont look good this offseason. You can look at Plekanec's 30 million for 6 years as an example of "There's nothing better out there this year".

 

 

I pretty much agree with your analysis as well - although I'm not happy about it.

 

I would have preferred Hamhuis to Kaberle myself. I'm looking more for a trade to help rather than the UFA market. I'd trade anyone except Miller, Myers, Kennedy, and Ennis. We should be able to get something decent back.

[nobody]

I'm not sure I'd want a GM named "Bucky." Sounds like he'd get fleeced in a minute.

 

Here's my choice for GM: http://twitter.com/DobberHockey

 

 

Come on then we could have GMs Bucky & Buddy in Buffalo. What could be better!

[nfreeman]

I would have preferred Hamhuis to Kaberle myself. I'm looking more for a trade to help rather than the UFA market.

But Hammy is a UFA -- Philly just traded for the last 10 days of his contract. There is no guarantee that he signs with Philly (although Bouwmeester signed early with Calgary last year in virtually the same situation). One of the Philly writers is saying that they aren't close on a deal (linkage). So you may get your wish on this, but it will be via free agency, not trade.

[shrader]

But Hammy is a UFA -- Philly just traded for the last 10 days of his contract. There is no guarantee that he signs with Philly (although Bouwmeester signed early with Calgary last year in virtually the same situation). One of the Philly writers is saying that they aren't close on a deal (linkage). So you may get your wish on this, but it will be via free agency, not trade.

 

Did any article ever state what the conditions were on that conditional 7th round pick Philly got in that deal? I was assuming they only get it if they don't reach a deal with Hamuis.

[Bullwinkle]

But Hammy is a UFA -- Philly just traded for the last 10 days of his contract. There is no guarantee that he signs with Philly (although Bouwmeester signed early with Calgary last year in virtually the same situation). One of the Philly writers is saying that they aren't close on a deal (linkage). So you may get your wish on this, but it will be via free agency, not trade.

 

I have never heard of a team picking up the rights to a UFA player and not signing them. At least it's a very rare occurrence and I can't imagine Holmgren misreading that situation.

[shrader]

I have never heard of a team picking up the rights to a UFA player and not signing them. At least it's a very rare occurrence and I can't imagine Holmgren misreading that situation.

 

It used to happen all the time prior to the new CBA where the teams received compensatory draft picks for losing UFAs.

[nfreeman]

I have never heard of a team picking up the rights to a UFA player and not signing them. At least it's a very rare occurrence and I can't imagine Holmgren misreading that situation.

Well, I think it's fair to say it's a pretty rare occurrence to trade for a UFA, full stop. I don't think it's happened often enough -- at least since the lockout and implementation of the cap -- to draw any conclusions.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Philly signs him before July 1, but it seems like the economically rational move for him would be to wait and see what he can get in the UFA frenzy. I was surprised when Bouwmeester opted not to do so.