shrader Posted June 12, 2010 Report Posted June 12, 2010 The guy seems to do a lot of celebrating. But, hey, who among us hasn't slugged a cabbie, gotten arrested, then made fun of it? This reminds me quite a bit of the defense of Kassian we're seeing around here. I hope he jokes about his bar fight at a Memorial Cup celebration.
darksabre Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 If you need alcohol to feel alive, I feel sorry for you. It's a depressant. You're a depressant.
Claude_Verret Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 A 21 year old kid that just scored the cup winning goal is having a good time celebrating with his teammates and fans and now we have people saying he has a drinking problem. Really? Get a grip folks.
Stoner Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 A 21 year old kid that just scored the cup winning goal is having a good time celebrating with his teammates and fans and now we have people saying he has a drinking problem. Really? Get a grip folks. Getting bombed at 10 o'clock in the morning is celebrating?
Stoner Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 You're a depressant. Thanks for conceding the argument.
Claude_Verret Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 Getting bombed at 10 o'clock in the morning is celebrating? When you win the Stanley Fargin Cup, yes it is! There isn't anyone here now in their 30's and beyond that can't point to times in their late teens and early 20's where they made poor decisions that either did or could have landed them in hot water similar to Patrick Kane. Not necessarily with drinking either, just poor life decisions. If you can't, then you either have a poor memory or you're a liar. I'm not excusing his past transgressions, but I'm rather willing to give him the benefit of the doubt to see if he will learn and mature from these events or if he is going to be another Ben Rothlisbeger type.
Stoner Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 When you win the Stanley Fargin Cup, yes it is! There isn't anyone here now in their 30's and beyond that can't point to times in their late teens and early 20's where they made poor decisions that either did or could have landed them in hot water similar to Patrick Kane. Not necessarily with drinking either, just poor life decisions. If you can't, then you either have a poor memory or you're a liar. I'm not excusing his past transgressions, but I'm rather willing to give him the benefit of the doubt to see if he will learn and mature from these events or if he is going to be another Ben Rothlisbeger type. Celebrating anything by getting drunk cheapens the thing that is being celebrated. Reminds me of the posts we had around the beginning of the playoffs -- can't wait to get drunk and watch the playoff games. Don't get it. Never will. You almost had me, but then you said "in hot water similar to Patrick Kane."
darksabre Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 Thanks for conceding the argument. I'm still waiting for you to start an argument. From the sounds of things, you have your perspective on what constitutes "fun" and everyone else is wrong. So what argument is there? You've stated an opinion and everyone else on this board disagrees with you. Get over yourself Mother Teresa.
Stoner Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 I'm still waiting for you to start an argument. From the sounds of things, you have your perspective on what constitutes "fun" and everyone else is wrong. So what argument is there? You've stated an opinion and everyone else on this board disagrees with you. Get over yourself Mother Teresa. Did you do a survey? Look at it this way. The Sabres winning a Cup would be fun for me. There's nothing about that experience that would make me want to distance myself from it with mind-altering substances of any kind. I'd be drunk on Sabres. High on life. Give it a try. Up with people!
bunomatic Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 Kane was'nt getting drunk at 10am he had been going all night. There's a difference. Where's the problem? Anyone else on that team not join him in the celebration? Most of these guys live the lives of commited athletes all year or most of the year and you people that think nothing of tipping a few every night or once or twice a week all year long are judging him for celebrating a cup win. I just don't get it.
gregkash Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 adam burrish was drinking a beer too. Lets talk about that.
Goosed Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Posted June 13, 2010 Hey, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with drinking. ######, I'm 21 myself and of course get my drink on and have a good time quite often, but I'm not a role model for thousands probably millions of kids in the country and even around the world. Whatever Kane does is up for public scrutiny because he is somewhat of a celebrity. I'm talking about acting with a shred of dignity and self respect. The way he behaves warrants no respect from me, and when I'm making a list of who I consider to be the best athletes in the world, all of them are those who I respect. Look at Michael Phelps or Tiger Woods. Those are two athletes that I admired at one point, both for their athletic ability as well as their character, but now I could care less about them. I understand that Kane is a fantastic hockey player, but honestly he is nothing near the caliber of players like Chris Drury who may not be as flashy but are at least respectable in the things they do both on and off the ice. I mean most people hate Sean Avery, and isn't the kind of crap that Kane is doing comparable to his despicable actions? I understand that people are going to feel very differently about this kind of stuff, but I just felt like I had to defend myself after reading some replys to my initial post.
Stoner Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 Kane was'nt getting drunk at 10am he had been going all night. There's a difference. Where's the problem? Anyone else on that team not join him in the celebration? Most of these guys live the lives of commited athletes all year or most of the year and you people that think nothing of tipping a few every night or once or twice a week all year long are judging him for celebrating a cup win. I just don't get it. Won the Cup Wednesday night, still drunk Friday morning? In years to come, he just might regret not remembering anything about the whole experience.
SwampD Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 Won the Cup Wednesday night, still drunk Friday morning? In years to come, he just might regret not remembering anything about the whole experience. What's with this mission? I don't know what you're drinking that makes you blackout or how much, but I'm pretty sure he's going to remember everything. I know I would, drunk or not. Not everyone who drinks has a drinking problem.
darksabre Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 Did you do a survey? Look at it this way. The Sabres winning a Cup would be fun for me. There's nothing about that experience that would make me want to distance myself from it with mind-altering substances of any kind. I'd be drunk on Sabres. High on life. Give it a try. Up with people! Are you a spokesperson for the Jonas Brothers?
bunomatic Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 The problem is that people should'nt be using these guys as role models for their kids. These guys are just as likely to crush a kids dream of what an upstanding guy is as their own father. they're just athletes and if they were'nt talented athletes they would be no different than you or me. WE're all capable of screwing up and so are they so why do you hold them up as role models. A professional athlete is the last person I'd ever hold up as a role model for my child. We've all witnessed the incredibly stupid things these 'role models' have done over the years. Don't want my kid to aspire to that. I'll be the role model for him just as my father was for me.
FogBat Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 I'm still waiting for you to start an argument. From the sounds of things, you have your perspective on what constitutes "fun" and everyone else is wrong. So what argument is there? You've stated an opinion and everyone else on this board disagrees with you. Get over yourself Mother Teresa. If this is of any help, even I didn't get on my high horse/soapbox. BTW, PASabrefan, I hope you're not this guy...
notwoz Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 Won the Cup Wednesday night, still drunk Friday morning? In years to come, he just might regret not remembering anything about the whole experience. Who's to say he's drunk? Did someone make Kane take a breathalyzer test? If so, where are the results. I've never heard him speak before, but he sounds like your typical 21-year-old -- which is to say he sounds like a moron (I'm ducking as I type). When he opened that can of beer, he sipped it like he was planning to nurse it through July 4th. As for chugging the Champagne, how much was in the bottle? The whole thing -- or three drops. I mean, what a waste of time. I read through this entire flipping thread and I'm kicking myself for wasting my time. :wallbash: But that's what I get for poking around in the off-season. :censored:
Neo Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 He's a lot like me at 21 ... you know, except for the Stanley Cup thingie .... No, I never punched a cabbie. But, I'm lucky cameras didn't follow me around back then. If this is him at 31 or 41, trouble. I concede it's dangerous even at 21. I have kids a few years younger. I get it. Perspective is what I'm saying. The parade, taken alone, I understand. Understand and condone are two different words. The other warning signs make me hope he gets some strong mentoring before he hurts himself or someone else. Relax, Patrick, and enjoy your ride. Be careful.
bunomatic Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 Who would hold up a 21 year old as a role model for their kids?
FogBat Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 Who's to say he's drunk? Did someone make Kane take a breathalyzer test? If so, where are the results. I've never heard him speak before, but he sounds like your typical 21-year-old -- which is to say he sounds like a moron (I'm ducking as I type). When he opened that can of beer, he sipped it like he was planning to nurse it through July 4th. As for chugging the Champagne, how much was in the bottle? The whole thing -- or three drops. I mean, what a waste of time. I read through this entire flipping thread and I'm kicking myself for wasting my time. :wallbash: But that's what I get for poking around in the off-season. :censored: Well, what can I say? A lot of us are somewhat bored, waiting for training camp to open up in September. At least this isn't the lockout and where fans were desperate to hear news of anything. Then along came Eklund... :wallbash: Hopefully enough fans have caught on to his chicanery to where he never emerges from this: :bag:
Goosed Posted June 14, 2010 Author Report Posted June 14, 2010 That's all fine and dandy, but unfortunately we don't get to pick who kids choose as their idols/role models. With the NHL pushing Kane as one of their top players, of course kids are going to be naturally drawn to him and "want to be like him". It's just like OV. I wouldn't want my kid choosing him as a role model. He's a D-Bag A-hole. If my kid pulled the crap OV does on or off the ice I would bench his butt. But unfortunately I couldn't force him to not like OV. These players have a responsibility whether they like it or not to be positive role models. No, we cannot force them into it, but I'm just saying what they "should" be doing.
FogBat Posted June 15, 2010 Report Posted June 15, 2010 That's all fine and dandy, but unfortunately we don't get to pick who kids choose as their idols/role models. With the NHL pushing Kane as one of their top players, of course kids are going to be naturally drawn to him and "want to be like him". It's just like OV. I wouldn't want my kid choosing him as a role model. He's a D-Bag A-hole. If my kid pulled the crap OV does on or off the ice I would bench his butt. But unfortunately I couldn't force him to not like OV. These players have a responsibility whether they like it or not to be positive role models. No, we cannot force them into it, but I'm just saying what they "should" be doing. Ever heard of a leopard changing the spots on its coat? I certainly never have...
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