SabresneedaCup Posted May 9, 2010 Report Posted May 9, 2010 the perfect player that would fit on any team is shane doan. but theres no way we would ever get him.
jabtot Posted May 10, 2010 Report Posted May 10, 2010 I am not talking about another Peters who needed double runners when stepping on the ice and was a joke when it came to fighting, but a guy who is willing to fight at a moments notice and can also skate a regular shift without embarrassing himself. I believe we have that guy in the system already with Zac Kassian. As long as Darcy forgets the 160 games in the minors rule. He can fight and score.
static70 Posted May 10, 2010 Report Posted May 10, 2010 Remind me again how having a fighter on a team has actually contributed to winning a Stanley Cup? Facts only please, no speculation.
TheChimp Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 I would rather see Mair, Kaleta, and Gerbe (what I predict will be the 4th Line next season) continue with what they were doing in the playoffs than dismantle that for someone brought in solely for their fighting history.
Eleven Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 Remind me again how having a fighter on a team has actually contributed to winning a Stanley Cup? Facts only please, no speculation. Blue isn't looking for a fighter. He's looking for a fourth-liner who can fight. Not the same thing, and I'm not sure your question fits. I don't want a pure fighter. I don't want Peters or Maguire. But a fourth-liner who actually can fight might be nice. Cup-winning teams have had those pure-fighter guys, you know, like McSorley, or MacTavish. But the better model, IMO, is a guy like Claude Lemieux.
deluca67 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 the perfect player that would fit on any team is shane doan. but theres no way we would ever get him. This is 100% true. Not because the 'Yotes would never trade him. Because Regier doesn't have the stones to call and make a offer.
tom webster Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 Blue isn't looking for a fighter. He's looking for a fourth-liner who can fight. Not the same thing, and I'm not sure your question fits. I don't want a pure fighter. I don't want Peters or Maguire. But a fourth-liner who actually can fight might be nice. Cup-winning teams have had those pure-fighter guys, you know, like McSorley, or MacTavish. But the better model, IMO, is a guy like Claude Lemieux. You are joking, right? Lemieux was a great playoff performer who turned himself into a pretty good hockey player but he was no fighter. Patrick Kaleta may turn into a close impersonation if he can stay healthy.
Eleven Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 You are joking, right? Lemieux was a great playoff performer who turned himself into a pretty good hockey player but he was no fighter. Patrick Kaleta may turn into a close impersonation if he can stay healthy. I know Lemieux sometimes turtled (a la Kaleta), but when inspired, well: The criterion (per Blue's question) isn't "will he always fight," it's "can he fight?"
inkman Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 I know Lemieux sometimes turtled (a la Kaleta), but when inspired, well: The criterion (per Blue's question) isn't "will he always fight," it's "can he fight?" Is Darren McCarty or Brad May a better fit?
Eleven Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 Is Darren McCarty or Brad May a better fit? I'd take another Brad May on this team in a heartbeat.
shrader Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 Blue isn't looking for a fighter. He's looking for a fourth-liner who can fight. Not the same thing, and I'm not sure your question fits. I don't want a pure fighter. I don't want Peters or Maguire. But a fourth-liner who actually can fight might be nice. Cup-winning teams have had those pure-fighter guys, you know, like McSorley, or MacTavish. But the better model, IMO, is a guy like Claude Lemieux. I'm willing to bet that certain other players had a lot more to do with those cups than a guy like McSorley or MacTavish did. I'm drawing a blank on their names though.
Eleven Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 I'm willing to bet that certain other players had a lot more to do with those cups than a guy like McSorley or MacTavish did. I'm drawing a blank on their names though. You must be thinking of Esa Tikkanen. Seriously, though, there was a reason Gretzky usually wasn't touched.
shrader Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 You must be thinking of Esa Tikkanen. Seriously, though, there was a reason Gretzky usually wasn't touched. Very true, but picking the team with a couple thousand Hall of Famers as your example of how to win with a big fighter in the lineup... yeah, probably not the best of examples.
inkman Posted May 12, 2010 Report Posted May 12, 2010 I'd take another Brad May on this team in a heartbeat. As long as it's not a first round pick that fetches him!!!
shrader Posted May 12, 2010 Report Posted May 12, 2010 As long as it's not a first round pick that fetches him!!! Taken a couple picks before Keith Tkachuk and Marty Brodeur?
Guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Posted May 12, 2010 I'm hoping Kassian pans out. He can definitely fight if need be and the rest is up to him if he wants to be here. He's got "it" in him, he just needs to put 110% into his development. On the other hand, Evander Kane is exactly the type of player this team needs. The kid can't even legally drink in his own country yet. He is someone to watch next season.
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