carpandean Posted March 19, 2010 Report Posted March 19, 2010 No disrespect intended, but Nostradamus did you also predict the sun would rise in the east? That one only had roughly a 2% greater chance of occurring. He-he. I almost put something like "not that it was any big surprise" or anything like that. Mostly, I just wanted to show the video. On a related note, I thought people might appreciate this remark from the comment section of TSN's coverage of last night's game: Need consistency to win in the playoffs. The next 2 or 3 games are must wins/should wins for Buffalo. Ryan got that garbage out of his system in Atlanta so now it's just fine tuning for the toughest tournament in sports. Good job on Rivet for standing up for Butler. Maybe someone in Boston should have done that for Savard a week or so ago. But then, this is the difference between a playoff team and an early tee time, isn't it? Buffalo shows heart. Boston? Not so much :lol:
shrader Posted March 19, 2010 Report Posted March 19, 2010 How many games should the refs be suspended for calling only two minutes on The Wiz? I'm serious. Now that's an interesting idea.
Eleven Posted March 20, 2010 Report Posted March 20, 2010 How many games should the refs be suspended for calling only two minutes on The Wiz? I'm serious. 8. I'm serious, too.
Stoner Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 So, no game penalty for lateral, back pressure and blindside hits to the head the rest of the season? Only review by Campbell?
Stoner Posted March 26, 2010 Report Posted March 26, 2010 Tonight's hit by Spacek on Booth (poor SOB) will be cited as the kind of hit that the league wants to keep in the game. But I still see it as dirty. Spacek took advantage of a vulnerable opponent, and it's no accident his shoulder ended up clocking Booth's head. Spacek doesn't quite jump into Booth, but it's close enough -- at least the left skate is off the ice on impact. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ifchlu1Gg
shrader Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 better not be the first suspension under the new rules. If they really had some balls, they'd suspend Morris for trying to draw (and being successful) a major penalty. Also of interest in the video is Bieksa ragdolling Stempniak and then trying to bash his head into the ice.
carpandean Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 better not be the first suspension under the new rules. Does the new rule cover hits to the body that cause the head to hit the boards, because I didn't see any contact with the head by Kesler?
shrader Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Does the new rule cover hits to the body that cause the head to hit the boards, because I didn't see any contact with the head by Kesler? You know, I didn't even look for that. I was so disgusted by the fact that Morris looked directly at him, then turned back to the boards. Morris should be suspended for being retarded.
Stoner Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 You know, I didn't even look for that. I was so disgusted by the fact that Morris looked directly at him, then turned back to the boards. Morris should be suspended for being retarded. Do you have a problem with the boarding penalty? The rule book allows a lot of wiggle room for the ref. The hitter has to make sure his opponent is not in a vulnerable position, but the player being hit can't deliberately put himself in a vulnerable position. I'm not sure that applies to this situation. All the player being hit did was look back at the puck. He's not allowed to play the puck? He's supposed to forget about it, possibly turning it over, and face the hitter? Either way the guy was getting boarded. But I think you're right to be suspicious that players are going to be told/taught to turn their heads and try and draw the head shot penalty -- but why would that be happening now when there's no penalty for head shots?
SwampD Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Do you have a problem with the boarding penalty? The rule book allows a lot of wiggle room for the ref. The hitter has to make sure his opponent is not in a vulnerable position, but the player being hit can't deliberately put himself in a vulnerable position. I'm not sure that applies to this situation. All the player being hit did was look back at the puck. He's not allowed to play the puck? He's supposed to forget about it, possibly turning it over, and face the hitter? Either way the guy was getting boarded. But I think you're right to be suspicious that players are going to be told/taught to turn their heads and try and draw the head shot penalty -- but why would that be happening now when there's no penalty for head shots? Yes! That is exactly what hitting creates in the game of hockey. That is it's sole purpose. Why do you have such a blind spot about this. The best players are the ones who know how to avoid the hit and keep the puck.
Kristian Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Yes! That is exactly what hitting creates in the game of hockey. That is it's sole purpose. Why do you have such a blind spot about this. The best players are the ones who know how to avoid the hit and keep the puck. I'd agree with that, and that's one of the main reasons I never considered Eric Lindros one of the best of his era, even though he put up some big numbers in his prime.
shrader Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Do you have a problem with the boarding penalty? The rule book allows a lot of wiggle room for the ref. The hitter has to make sure his opponent is not in a vulnerable position, but the player being hit can't deliberately put himself in a vulnerable position. I'm not sure that applies to this situation. All the player being hit did was look back at the puck. He's not allowed to play the puck? He's supposed to forget about it, possibly turning it over, and face the hitter? Either way the guy was getting boarded. But I think you're right to be suspicious that players are going to be told/taught to turn their heads and try and draw the head shot penalty -- but why would that be happening now when there's no penalty for head shots? I think that does apply here. Morris looked then turned away from Kesler. Whether or not he actually saw him coming is debatable, but I believe he did.
Stoner Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 I think that does apply here. Morris looked then turned away from Kesler. Whether or not he actually saw him coming is debatable, but I believe he did. It's not like he was facing the hitter, then turned around to draw a checking from behind penalty. A board is a board whether you see the hit coming or not. It was bang-bang. I don't see how the player who got hit can be blamed for anything -- because he didn't have time to do anything to be blamed for.
Stoner Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Yes! That is exactly what hitting creates in the game of hockey. That is it's sole purpose. Why do you have such a blind spot about this. The best players are the ones who know how to avoid the hit and keep the puck. Take a hit to make the play. Your blind spot is bigger than mine.
SwampD Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 It's not like he was facing the hitter, then turned around to draw a checking from behind penalty. A board is a board whether you see the hit coming or not. It was bang-bang. I don't see how the player who got hit can be blamed for anything -- because he didn't have time to do anything to be blamed for. On the flip side, I don't see how the hitter did anything to be blamed for either. You said it yourself, it was bang-bang. He's about to hit someone looking right at him, then he's not. It was too fast for him to pull up short.
SwampD Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Take a hit to make the play. Your blind spot is bigger than mine. I guess I'll just ask it outright, then. Do you want hitting removed from the game?
shrader Posted April 1, 2010 Report Posted April 1, 2010 It's not like he was facing the hitter, then turned around to draw a checking from behind penalty. A board is a board whether you see the hit coming or not. It was bang-bang. I don't see how the player who got hit can be blamed for anything -- because he didn't have time to do anything to be blamed for. Quite honestly, I wish they'd rewrite boarding in the rule book. As it is currently written, any check into the boards could qualify as boarding. It's almost as if it's there just in case someone gets hurt.
spndnchz Posted April 1, 2010 Report Posted April 1, 2010 PA talking about bang-bang and how big his blind spot is. :blink:
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