Trade Deadline Thread

[nobody]

To Edmonton:Aaron Johnson and a third

 

To Calgary: Steve Staois

[nobody]

To Colorado: Stephane Yelle and Harrison Reed

 

To Carolina: Cedric Lalonde-McNicoll and a sixth-round pick

[LabattBlue]

Assuming this is it, I am slightly disappointed. If DR was going to go the rental route, why stop at one player? Take the picks for MacArthur or MacArthur himself, add another pick or prospect(s) and upgrade the blueline and/or 3rd line.

 

Adding Torres and subtracting MacArthur is a clearly a net gain in the forward ranks, but I don't know how much in terms of possible playoff success.

 

I hate to wish for injuries, but I'd love to see Ennis(assuming he is not hurt badly), Weber and/or McCormick for 3 or 4 games down the stretch.

[nobody]

To Blue Jackets: Chad Kolarik

To Coyotes: Alex Picard

[spndnchz]

Darcy live on sabres.com

[theend]

Assuming this is it, I am slightly disappointed. If DR was going to go the rental route, why stop at one player? Take the picks for MacArthur or MacArthur himself, add another pick or prospect(s) and upgrade the blueline and/or 3rd line.

 

Adding Torres and subtracting MacArthur is a clearly a net gain in the forward ranks, but I don't know how much in terms of possible playoff success.

 

I hate to wish for injuries, but I'd love to see Ennis(assuming he is not hurt badly), Weber and/or McCormick for 3 or 4 games down the stretch.

 

I feel the same - it really looks like Darcy couldn't commit to making anything major happen either way - whether that was making room for some of the kids to come up from Portland by shedding some of the dead weight, or to get one more forward and someone on the blue-line. Although, seeing the price for Corvo (and thus assuming the price for Kaberle), maybe it just wasn't possible for the blue-line.

[spndnchz]

Darcy speak

[LabattBlue]

I'm glad that jerkoff Whitney didn't get traded. He really ###### over Carolina due to his demands for a contract extension to wherever he might have been traded to. Clearly a guy at this point who only cares about the $$$.

[shrader]

I'm glad that jerkoff Whitney didn't get traded. He really ###### over Carolina due to his demands for a contract extension to wherever he might have been traded to. Clearly a guy at this point who only cares about the $$$.

 

Can you really blame him though? Thanks to that NTC, this was the last time in his career he was going to have that kind of leverage.

[theend]

Listening to Darcy, I don't mind that he thinks that the summer is a better time for moves, and that Portland has some good resources. I think that's smart, and not reactionary like so many GMs are around this time. The trade deadline, for me, is only for teams like Washington, Chicago, Pittsburgh, and San Jose that are a couple pieces away from a strong Cup run. I don't think too many here think that's where we're at right now.

 

Thus, I don't mind him being relatively inactive today, especially because most of the movement was rentals...but he'd better realize the problems that we have right now, and adjust this summer when free agency opens up. Certain players should be targeted in FA, certain players should be shopped, and certain players need to be given a legitimate shot from Portland.

 

Standing pat or small moves aren't an option this offseason.

[tom webster]

Listening to Darcy, I don't mind that he thinks that the summer is a better time for moves, and that Portland has some good resources. I think that's smart, and not reactionary like so many GMs are around this time. The trade deadline, for me, is only for teams like Washington, Chicago, Pittsburgh, and San Jose that are a couple pieces away from a strong Cup run. I don't think too many here think that's where we're at right now.

 

Thus, I don't mind him being relatively inactive today, especially because most of the movement was rentals...but he'd better realize the problems that we have right now, and adjust this summer when free agency opens up. Certain players should be targeted in FA, certain players should be shopped, and certain players need to be given a legitimate shot from Portland.

 

Standing pat or small moves aren't an option this offseason.

 

 

Only problem, in the summer he says that's not the time to makes moves either. What has he done to improve this roster in the last few years? Miller's game improved and Myers surprised everyone. What else?

And Portland? Who exactly is a can't miss prospect?

[LabattBlue]

Standing pat or small moves aren't an option this offseason.

If they were true to their word last offseason in regards to the "thorough comprehensive review", we would have seen more than Montador & Grier in and Max and Kotalik out.

 

I have no reason to believe that it will be any different come this summer.

 

If LQ/DR had balls...

 

#1 Rivet would be bought out

 

#2 Roy and Stafford would be traded

 

#3 A PP QB would be acquired

 

#4 Weber, Ennis and Enroth will be promoted

 

#5 Upgrades for pending UFA's Mair and Ellis would be found

 

#6 Figure out what to do with Tallinder and Lydman

[static70]

Only problem, in the summer he says that's not the time to makes moves either. What has he done to improve this roster in the last few years? Miller's game improved and Myers surprised everyone. What else?

And Portland? Who exactly is a can't miss prospect?

I tend to agree here, today was a horrible day for this organization. Most likely Lydman walks this summer and Tallinder will get more expensive to keep. Lets talk Portland, outside of Ennis, Weber and Gragnani, not one of those players are prepared to push for a roster spot, and out of the 3 mentioned, only Ennis is most likely to make the roster.

 

Lets talk current roster

Vanek-Roy-(STAFFORD) - I mean, Stafford? Still here? Really? WTF was this thinking? Its a 3 season failed experiment, time to move on from him, should have gone this trade deadline, period.

 

Hecht-Connolly-Pomminstein - Inconsistency. Enough said.

 

3RD AND 4TH lines? I have no idea here, but I suspect we missed the boat today upgrading these lines. Just a mess and Mair and Grier still on the Ice is just hard to stomach.

 

So overall, my opinion is: FIRE DARCY REGIER!

[darksabre]

I tend to agree here, today was a horrible day for this organization. Most likely Lydman walks this summer and Tallinder will get more expensive to keep. Lets talk Portland, outside of Ennis, Weber and Gragnani, not one of those players are prepared to push for a roster spot, and out of the 3 mentioned, only Ennis is most likely to make the roster.

 

Lets talk current roster

Vanek-Roy-(STAFFORD) - I mean, Stafford? Still here? Really? WTF was this thinking? Its a 3 season failed experiment, time to move on from him, should have gone this trade deadline, period.

 

Hecht-Connolly-Pomminstein - Inconsistency. Enough said.

 

3RD AND 4TH lines? I have no idea here, but I suspect we missed the boat today upgrading these lines. Just a mess and Mair and Grier still on the Ice is just hard to stomach.

 

So overall, my opinion is: FIRE DARCY REGIER!

 

Are you seriously lumping Grier in with Mair?

[North Buffalo]

That is it Darcy, Pathetic.... guess we are in for some more Russian style no grit, take periods off Sabres for the rest of the season. At this point it would be appropriate if they miss the playoffs in 10th place, 2 points out of a spot.... I am not bitter... no I am not...:wallbash:

[static70]

Are you seriously lumping Grier in with Mair?

Just stating an opinion, but ya, Grier is not someone I want to see on the Ice. He is a great defensive player, PK and all, but he does not have the right linemates here. Now if he was on the 4th line maybe, but I see nothing outside of the PK that impresses me.

[darksabre]

Just stating an opinion, but ya, Grier is not someone I want to see on the Ice. He is a great defensive player, PK and all, but he does not have the right linemates here. Now if he was on the 4th line maybe, but I see nothing outside of the PK that impresses me.

 

Grier is one of the few players on this team that hasn't been a disappointment this year. He's a solid 3rd line player and when paired with Kennedy good things seem to happen. Yes, Mair is a throw away, but there's no way I'd lump Grier into the "chuck em" bin.

[theend]

I completely recognize that Darcy's only been making small tweaks to this roster for the past couple of years. But what he's believed in isn't that hard to understand. I know Drury and Briere were big parts of our two great seasons out of the lockout, but he really thought the rest of those young players were going to emerge and compete. And with their stats, and being young, it's not a difficult thing to comprehend.

 

So, 1 year afterwards, he looks at it as a hangover and bad season - it doesn't mean dump everyone just because they regressed a bit. Then, last year, they're very soft all year, but he sees them make a push and almost make the playoffs, and looks for some veteran-style grit as his tweaks to toughen them up. (I agree that the 'self-review' thing was B.S., though.)

 

Now, in our 3rd year with this group/core, it's clear that they're not going to emerge. I understand trying to have some patience after 1, and even 2, years. But now, enough is enough. That original plan isn't going to work, so it needs to have some major adjustments.

 

So, basically - I agree that things need some serious change now, and if he doesn't rise to that occasion (or see the writing on the wall), he needs to go. But I'm not going to reflexively look back at his previous decisions and say he was an incompetent moron, either.

[Buffalo Fan]

Is it me, or have the last few trade deadlines been....BLAH. No real big names moving, no true blockbusters. Used to be at trade deadline, most of the names were recognizable because they were major contributors to their teams. Salary cap? Expansion? I think these have been very bad for the sport...

[Stoner]

scream, I take it then you believe that Darcy will be given ANOTHER chance to clean up his mess? He sure doesn't act like he's playing for his job, so if that's your take, you very well could be right. I'd be surprised if Regier is gone, no matter what happens from here on out.

[Stoner]

Only problem, in the summer he says that's not the time to makes moves either. What has he done to improve this roster in the last few years? Miller's game improved and Myers surprised everyone. What else?

And Portland? Who exactly is a can't miss prospect?

 

Perfect response. Thank you. You saved me the trouble.

 

Darcy was preaching Portland in his presser after the deadline. Seriously? The message here is that the status quo of mediocrity will go on.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

The sad thing is.......Darcy is slowly giving up on the guys that could have secured a Stanley Cup in '06-07.

 

Paille, Paetch, McArthur and a 2nd would have gotten you Gary Roberts and Bill Guerin that year....I will bet you anything. That is the tragedy......They knew they were going to let the captains walk and couldn't afford to give up young servicable bodies. They would have had cap room if Darcy didn't do something that was the most irresponsible thing in his tenure by proclaiming Afinigenov and Connolly would be healthy by the end of the regular season....1 week before the trade deadline. Right then and there is when I gave up on the clown. Afinigenov was listed out up to 8 weeks, which would take him to the 2nd round.....but by announcing this, he prevented himself from being able to make a trade for Guerin and Roberts because it would be looked at as fraud. Darcy should have been hung for that POS move. I lost all respect for him....what little I had.

 

I know I have said this before, and many are of the same opinion as myself at this point....but I see CEO's of publicaly traded companies that act like Regier. They shuffle papers and make an acquisition or sell a piece of the company off to justify their overpaid salary that comes from the shareholders. In reality they are sitting around.......hoping they can dupe the shareholders long enough for them to retire and collect their pension. In most cases.........shareholders catch on and kill the stock price or a hostile takeover is launched.............too bad the shareholders in this case, the fans, have kept on pouring their dollars into this DEAD MONEY venture.

[theend]

scream, I take it then you believe that Darcy will be given ANOTHER chance to clean up his mess? He sure doesn't act like he's playing for his job, so if that's your take, you very well could be right. I'd be surprised if Regier is gone, no matter what happens from here on out.

 

I'm not sure if he feels like he's under intense scrutiny. I agree that he's not acting like it.

 

I'm just saying that, though keeping this core together for a third season was definitely a mistake, and we're seeing that now, it's not one that I look back on and say, 'What the hell were you thinking?!!' Hindsight is always 20/20. With the way these guys played a few seasons back, I believed they were capable of more, too. I would have signed Vanek, Pomminstein, Roy, Gaustad, Stafford, Mac three seasons ago, too.

[theend]

The sad thing is.......Darcy is slowly giving up on the guys that could have secured a Stanley Cup in '06-07.

 

In most cases.........shareholders catch on and kill the stock price or a hostile takeover is launched.............too bad the shareholders in this case, the fans, have kept on pouring their dollars into this DEAD MONEY venture.

 

 

I understand this sentiment, I do, because we seemed so close. But after the previous year, when only injuries prevented us from getting the Cup, and we were the best team in the regular season the following year...why would we go out and trade some pieces away? Again, hindsight is always 20/20...but who really thought we were missing that much that year? (I know it turned out we were, but at the time, we seemed golden.)

 

And the shareholder/fan comment - I just can't get behind this. Darcy deserves to be criticized for moves, certainly, but if you want the paper-pushers who truly do nothing, there are 20 other GMs in this league to list before Regier. He does have an interest in this team, and a vision, it just might not be the right one, or one we all agree with. Yell at him all you want for believing too much in his own players, and not being open to other possibilities, but there's no way he's tanking things because he doesn't care.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

On to more important things.......I think we need to name a line for our new acquisition.

 

How about THE MINORITY LINE?

 

Torres, Grier, and Roy.

 

A Mexican, a Black guy, and a woman.