LabattBlue Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 Facts... 1. Connolly has a good, but injury plagued year coming out of the lockout. Great start to the playoffs which ended with him getting smoked. His reward...3 years 9 million dollars despite the concussion symptoms being nowhere near gone. 2. One year of not playing at all, followed by two years @ 48 games each. His reward...2 years 9 million(I don't suppose this new contract had anything to do with Quinny and Connolly's father being good friends, would it?). 3. Has been pretty much absent this year except for a handful of games. He has even wussed out of taking faceoffs because he is supposedly playing hurt. IMO...Connolly has been living off his great "potential" since he came to Buffalo. Please tell me that Kennedy, Adam or Ennis will be ready for full time duty as a scoring line center next year. If not, send him packing and bring in a vet stop gap for a year or so until one of the previously mentioned players is ready to go. I have officially named Connolly my whipping boy for the rest of this season. http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=31850
inkman Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 Problem: He's under contract until next year and I don't see how he isn't here next year. No real way to get rid of him.
cpabob Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 Facts... 1. Connolly has a good, but injury plagued year coming out of the lockout. Great start to the playoffs which ended with him getting smoked. His reward...3 years 9 million dollars despite the concussion symptoms being nowhere near gone. 2. One year of not playing at all, followed by two years @ 48 games each. His reward...2 years 9 million(I don't suppose this new contract had anything to do with Quinny and Connolly's father being good friends, would it?). 3. Has been pretty much absent this year except for a handful of games. He has even wussed out of taking faceoffs because he is supposedly playing hurt. IMO...Connolly has been living off his great "potential" since he came to Buffalo. Please tell me that Kennedy, Adam or Ennis will be ready for full time duty as a scoring line center next year. If not, send him packing and bring in a vet stop gap for a year or so until one of the previously mentioned players is ready to go. I have officially named Connolly my whipping boy for the rest of this season. http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=31850 All good points. The faceoff thing is really bothering me. I have done a lot of yelling at the TV because of "Timmy Turnover" this year as well.
nfreeman Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 2. One year of not playing at all, followed by two years @ 48 games each. His reward...2 years 9 million(I don't suppose this new contract had anything to do with Quinny and Connolly's father being good friends, would it?). I'm as unhappy with TC's frequent invisibility as anyone (and wouldn't be surprised if he had an injured shoulder or ribs or something), but this theory, which has been mentioned before, is crazy. Successful businessmen don't give away $9MM to the wayward kids of their HS buddies. Problem: He's under contract until next year and I don't see how he isn't here next year. No real way to get rid of him. Correct, unless we take back someone else's problem contract in the bargain. Not impossible, but not likely either.
end the curse Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 Connolly has apparently shut it down. Can't think of anything that Darcy can do at this point. More of an issue for Ruff, and if Timmy boy can't seem to get his head back into the game maybe some 4th line duty or press box time would remotivate him.
Rico7 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 I am on board with you Blue. It might be different if he at least appeared to be giving the effort night in and night out, but he seems to turn it on in spurts. Very short spurts. Then you don't hear from the guy for games.
DR HOLLIDAY Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 Timmy has become Max, lots of skill, but nothing gets done and more turnovers then a bakery.
static70 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 WAIT!!! Darcy and Timmy have an ongoing love affair? I thought there was a don't ask, don't tell policy in the NHL :w00t:
DR HOLLIDAY Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 WAIT!!! Darcy and Timmy have an ongoing love affair? I thought there was a don't ask, don't tell policy in the NHL :w00t: This is a serious discussion....... :sick:
darksabre Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 Friggin 4.5 million per, to do nothing! And it's not even financially viable to waive him unless we trade another contract away to make cap space. I'd trade him and his "potential" for a pick to a team with cap room.
static70 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 This is a serious discussion....... :sick: Ok, Ok DR HOLLIDAY, you want serious, ok. I didn't start posting on this board until recently. But, I stated on other boards he should have been traded at the deadline last season. It could have been done, I don't care what anyone says. Then, during the offseason, I stated they should not resign him, not because of his injuries, but because since his injuries he really was an unknown commodity. He has put up line 2 numbers however, as far as the points go. He should not be a center, but a winger, which ever wing he shows more promise on. Which would lead to the question of who would center him successfully? As others have already correctly pointed out, he is not going to be traded, he is going to finish this contract here in Buffalo or atleast until next seasons trade deadline.
inkman Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 Successful businessmen don't give away $9MM to the wayward kids of their HS buddies. Well, what if they $$ ain't yours and your career as a business man is mostly just a sham?
LabattBlue Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Posted December 22, 2009 I'm as unhappy with TC's frequent invisibility as anyone (and wouldn't be surprised if he had an injured shoulder or ribs or something), but this theory, which has been mentioned before, is crazy. Successful businessmen don't give away $9MM to the wayward kids of their HS buddies. Never doubt Quinny. Besides, it's not his money, it's OSP's. ;)
Stoner Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 He's one of the top penalty killers on one of the top penalty killing teams in the league. Does that count for nothing?
nfreeman Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 Well, what if they $$ ain't yours and your career as a business man is mostly just a sham? Never doubt Quinny. Besides, it's not his money, it's OSP's. ;) They also don't give away their boss' money when it's that much cash and the deal is that much under a microscope. Bad hockey decision? Possible-to-likely, although he'll probably end up with 65-70 pts this year, and Pommer's contract is still much worse (how's that for cold comfort?). But felony embezzlement (which is what this would be)? Not plausible.
inkman Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 He's one of the top penalty killers on one of the top penalty killing teams in the league. Does that count for nothing? I don't know, what's a good PKer worth, 1.5 mill? Still got about 3 mil of offense to find.
BADMOFO518 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 I don't know, what's a good PKer worth, 1.5 mill? Still got about 3 mil of offense to find. they should trade connoly while he still has value and give up a draft pick for a star forward, that is what this team needs, a real veteran power forward, and if they cant find a proper suitor, then someone with gobs of talent and some leadership in the dressing room
darksabre Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 He's one of the top penalty killers on one of the top penalty killing teams in the league. Does that count for nothing? I'm sure we could find some scrub to play the PK just fine. If players with the talent of Kaleta can do it, what do we need Connolly for?
LabattBlue Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Posted December 22, 2009 Well, what if they $$ ain't yours and your career as a business man is mostly just a sham? You beat me to the punch! :thumbsup:
LabattBlue Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Posted December 22, 2009 I'm sure we could find some scrub to play the PK just fine. If players with the talent of Kaleta can do it, what do we need Connolly for? I bet you could find a guy to play the 4th line who excels at faceoffs AND the PK for 1 mil a year.
Stoner Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 I'm sure we could find some scrub to play the PK just fine. If players with the talent of Kaleta can do it, what do we need Connolly for? Kaleta may be able to do it, but Ruff hasn't given him much of a chance. I had to laugh at this nugget in one of the Toronto papers this morning: "Adam Mair was declared unworthy by the Leafs almost a decade ago but is part of one of the NHL’s top penalty killing units."
Stoner Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 They also don't give away their boss' money when it's that much cash and the deal is that much under a microscope. Bad hockey decision? Possible-to-likely, although he'll probably end up with 65-70 pts this year, and Pommer's contract is still much worse (how's that for cold comfort?). But felony embezzlement (which is what this would be)? Not plausible. Are you literally saying LQ could be legally charged with something for giving this contract to Connolly? Or did you mean "felony embezzlement" in a metaphoric sense? :blush:
LabattBlue Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Posted December 22, 2009 They also don't give away their boss' money when it's that much cash and the deal is that much under a microscope. Bad hockey decision? Possible-to-likely, although he'll probably end up with 65-70 pts this year, and Pommer's contract is still much worse (how's that for cold comfort?). But felony embezzlement (which is what this would be)? Not plausible. Felony embezzlement? We're not talking about stealing money(even though some would categorize what Connolly is doing this season as "stealing money"), just the possibility of a guy being re-signed to his current team due to a relationship between the teams managing partner and the players father. Let's say this was the case(which I have no proof of), Quinny could have made this decision on his own without ever mentioning in to anyone. Far from embezzlement at that point. Just a case where a player is signed to a contract exceeding his worth. Something you see in the NHL all the time by dumb general managers.
Stoner Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 I don't know, what's a good PKer worth, 1.5 mill? Still got about 3 mil of offense to find. No doubt, the offensive numbers are disappointing. But with most everyone else in the tank offensively, you have to wonder where to rest the blame. Well, I don't wonder, but someone might want to.
LabattBlue Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Posted December 22, 2009 No doubt, the offensive numbers are disappointing. But with most everyone else in the tank offensively, you have to wonder where to rest the blame. Well, I don't wonder, but someone might want to. The FAB 5 as a whole have been underwhelming to say the least and you would think that Connolly being the elder statesman of the group would be leading them upward not into a season long funk.
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