\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 http://www.outsidethegarden.com/boards/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=25219&posts=20&start=1 :lol:
Eleven Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 http://www.outsidethegarden.com/boards/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=25219&posts=20&start=1 :lol: There are similar threads on a number of other Rangers boards. The fans are NOT happy with The Intangible.
LabattBlue Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 There are similar threads on a number of other Rangers boards. The fans are NOT happy with The Intangible. How dare you disrespect him...Captain Intangibles is the correct title! :rolleyes:
wjag Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 I'm stunned that he has 2G, 7A, -6 at this point. If he was making 7M for the Sabres and sporting those stats, the BBQ would probably be just as vociferous here too.
Eleven Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 I'm stunned that he has 2G, 7A, -6 at this point. If he was making 7M for the Sabres and sporting those stats, the BBQ would probably be just as vociferous here too. It's bad enough for players who make $7M and have 9G and 11A, +1. What if Drury were making $5M and putting up the numbers he has? Not too many people would be too happy.
Two or less Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 Friend of mine got a job in NYC and in his office many NYR fans work with him and he says everyone calls Drury "Captain cash". LOL
rickshaw Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 It's funny. The Sabres made all the efforts, too late, to keep Drury at all costs and let Briere go bye bye without much effort. Yet looking at it now, Briere is still the guy they should have kept. Aside from his injuries, he still puts up points. In the end, it's really better for the Sabres that they are both gone.
SwampD Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 It's funny. The Sabres made all the efforts, too late, to keep Drury at all costs and let Briere go bye bye without much effort. Yet looking at it now, Briere is still the guy they should have kept. Aside from his injuries, he still puts up points. In the end, it's really better for the Sabres that they are both gone. Yes.
Bmwolf21 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 I'm stunned that he has 2G, 7A, -6 at this point. If he was making 7M for the Sabres and sporting those stats, the BBQ would probably be just as vociferous here too. I'm sure he's stunned too. And he's making $8M this year with a cap hit of $7M. Scary stuff. I'm not surprised, though, that the Rags fans are ready to kill him. But they should be more pissed at the FO for massively overpaying for a blue-collar, second-line player, giving him superstar first-line money and a No Movement Clause to boot, when in reality he's a solid two-way player, a regular 20-25 goal, 30-35 assist guy who is not nearly worth the money that he got from NY. It's funny. The Sabres made all the efforts, too late, to keep Drury at all costs and let Briere go bye bye without much effort. Yet looking at it now, Briere is still the guy they should have kept. Aside from his injuries, he still puts up points. In the end, it's really better for the Sabres that they are both gone. I was fine with them targeting Drury and not Briere, and I would still be fine with it - if it was for no more than the mythical 5 years for $25M contract. I don't think he'd be struggling as much in Buffalo as he is in NYC. Deluca would have lost his mind if they kept Briere, period, but if they had kept him and he missed 50+ games in his second year? That would have been an epic meltdown.
apuszczalowski Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 Good for him, he wanted out of here to fulfill his "Boyhood Dream" of playing for the Rangers in MSG. He got his money, and lived the dream. Now it looks like the pressure of being in the "Bigger Pond" might be a little too much for him
DR HOLLIDAY Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 It's funny. The Sabres made all the efforts, too late, to keep Drury at all costs and let Briere go bye bye without much effort. Yet looking at it now, Briere is still the guy they should have kept. Aside from his injuries, he still puts up points. In the end, it's really better for the Sabres that they are both gone. I never thought I would say agree with that, but I do.
Kristian Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 http://www.outsidethegarden.com/boards/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=25219&posts=20&start=1 :lol: Man, and I thought *we* were hard on guys here. Compared to this, this board seems almost level-headed. That said, had he played this way for 7 or even 5 mill. a year in Buffalo, I doubt too many people would be singing his praises. Those are some pretty scary numbers, and it's always a shame to see a player who has played well for your team end up like this. Personally, I hope he bounces back, as long as it's not against Buffalo. Though he did put himself in the trucks headlights by signing that contract, with that particular team.
nucci Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 It's funny. The Sabres made all the efforts, too late, to keep Drury at all costs and let Briere go bye bye without much effort. Yet looking at it now, Briere is still the guy they should have kept. Aside from his injuries, he still puts up points. In the end, it's really better for the Sabres that they are both gone. Don't brush this aside so quickly. Flyer fans are not thrilled with Briere. His contract is killing them now.
Calvin Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 It's funny. The Sabres made all the efforts, too late, to keep Drury at all costs and let Briere go bye bye without much effort. Yet looking at it now, Briere is still the guy they should have kept. Aside from his injuries, he still puts up points. In the end, it's really better for the Sabres that they are both gone. This. Yes! Really does appear that we got the best years out of them, and let them walk without having to massively overpay.
inkman Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 This. Yes! Really does appear that we got the best years out of them, and let them walk without having to massively overpay. Well, one has to wonder what the Sabres would look like had they been able to keep either or both. Would Ryan Miller still be here with? What about Derek Roy or Jason Pominville? Would Chris and Danny be producing with Buffalo? Briere most likely as his game has translated from one style NHL to another. Drury on the other hand, really seems to have been the beneficiary of the old new NHL. When the league reverted back to it's old ways, his limited skill set is exposed. That all being said, I'm glad they aren't here but this team could use a move like the one's to bring those guys in. A young offensive type player, with leadership qualities that is struggling with his current team. I'm sure there are a few of these players out there, hopefully come trade deadline time, Darcy can pull something else.
static70 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 No one really wants to point out what was so obvious the season following both Drury and Breire's absence and subsequent performances on other teams. The sole reason for the success of these 2 here in Buffalo had little to 0 to do with the rules changes that were made, I stated this time and again. It had everything to do with CHEMISTRY! Both Drury and Briere brought the needed skills and talents respectively to elevate the play of younger players such as Pomminstein, Vanek and even Stafford. I am of the opinion they both should have been resigned for the 5 year 5 mil contracts. We most certainly would not be speaking on the scoring woes of this current team if this had been done. Also, Briere may not have been injured and missed half a season. A little speculation there on the injury, but, thats why its called theory. I do not believe Drury has found the chemistry with the Rangers, I also believe Briere has not with the Flyers as well. As for Darcy and not resigning them, its a double edged sword really. Allowing them to walk put this team immediately out of contention for anything short term, its what management does to rebuild the team that will really tell the full story. No serious chemistry among the top 6 is a glaring hole in this team as of now and may be its ultimate undoing in the following 2 seasons on top of the last 2. Drafting the right components appears to be going ok, but bringing in free agent talent or through a trade has really yet to be achieved on a scale with significant impact. Grier would be the only addition through that method that has shown results but not on the scoring side, more on the defensive side. As is noted through out the league by former players, current players, coaches, GM's and writers/reporters this Sabres team lacks the ability to turn to its top to lines for consistency, that is a recipe for failure if they cannot find a go to guy or 2. Successful teams find these count these type of players amongst thier ranks, Buffalo cannot, at this time. Relying on Miller to pull out victories on an over burdening scale is a failed season in the making if the Sabres do not bring harmony on the score sheet from their top six. "Not my words, but the words spoken from many different sources following the NHL".
Buffalo Wings Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 Well, one has to wonder what the Sabres would look like had they been able to keep either or both. Would Ryan Miller still be here with? What about Derek Roy or Jason Pominville? Would Chris and Danny be producing with Buffalo? Briere most likely as his game has translated from one style NHL to another. Drury on the other hand, really seems to have been the beneficiary of the old new NHL. When the league reverted back to it's old ways, his limited skill set is exposed. :thumbsup: It's the fallacy of the predetermined outcome. If you took Doc Brown's DeLorean and went back in time and gave Drury and/or Briere their extension, it could easily be a completely different team right now or it could have been worse. Maybe no more Miller, Roy, Pominville, or Vanek, but what about the possibility of those guys playing better because either Captain Intangible was here or a true scoring threat was scoring? This team was gelling pretty well with those two as captains and they haven't had the same on-ice leadership (or team, for that matter) since. I'm not advocating the huge contracts nor am I saying they definitely would be a better team if either had hung around (I've certainly moved on from it)...we just don't know what this team would be like had either of those two stayed.
ntjacks79 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 I never thought I would say agree with that, but I do. While I do agree with the sentiments on this Board, and that the Sabres did the right thing by not "going wild" on salaries for Drury/Briere, I'm not so sure I feel that Drury would be performing the same way if in Buffalo as he is for the Rangers. I may be biased, as I went to school with the guy at Boston University, but I really think that both Lindy Ruff and the Sabres system "fit" Drury - and he still might be that "strong leader" the Sabres currently sorely lack if still wearing blue and gold.
ntjacks79 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 No one really wants to point out what was so obvious the season following both Drury and Breire's absence and subsequent performances on other teams. The sole reason for the success of these 2 here in Buffalo had little to 0 to do with the rules changes that were made, I stated this time and again. It had everything to do with CHEMISTRY! Both Drury and Briere brought the needed skills and talents respectively to elevate the play of younger players such as Pomminstein, Vanek and even Stafford. I am of the opinion they both should have been resigned for the 5 year 5 mil contracts. We most certainly would not be speaking on the scoring woes of this current team if this had been done. Also, Briere may not have been injured and missed half a season. A little speculation there on the injury, but, thats why its called theory. I do not believe Drury has found the chemistry with the Rangers, I also believe Briere has not with the Flyers as well. As for Darcy and not resigning them, its a double edged sword really. Allowing them to walk put this team immediately out of contention for anything short term, its what management does to rebuild the team that will really tell the full story. No serious chemistry among the top 6 is a glaring hole in this team as of now and may be its ultimate undoing in the following 2 seasons on top of the last 2. Drafting the right components appears to be going ok, but bringing in free agent talent or through a trade has really yet to be achieved on a scale with significant impact. Grier would be the only addition through that method that has shown results but not on the scoring side, more on the defensive side. As is noted through out the league by former players, current players, coaches, GM's and writers/reporters this Sabres team lacks the ability to turn to its top to lines for consistency, that is a recipe for failure if they cannot find a go to guy or 2. Successful teams find these count these type of players amongst thier ranks, Buffalo cannot, at this time. Relying on Miller to pull out victories on an over burdening scale is a failed season in the making if the Sabres do not bring harmony on the score sheet from their top six. "Not my words, but the words spoken from many different sources following the NHL". Agreed. I just said something similar before I saw your reply.
Sabre Dance Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 Well, maybe Drury played hard here in Buffalo in order to prove he was worthy to play for the blueshirts. Once his dream was realized, what incentive does he have to continue to push himself that hard? (And who knows? Maybe that crack on the coconut that Chris Neal delivered is having some latent effects...) :blink:
Derrico Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 I loved Chris when he was here. I think alot of fans loved him. But he turned his back on the Sabres to fulfill his "childhood dream" so I'm actually getting some enjoyment out of watching him fail. I know it's off topic but I can't believe that fans here booed Campbell. The guy wanted to stay and they traded him. Buffalo (apparently) offered Drury similar money but chose the Rags. If anyone should get booed in this stadium it should be Drury! On a side note, why do we always give it Chara every time he has the puck? Did I miss a dirty play against a Sabre at some point in time?
stenbaro Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 It's funny. The Sabres made all the efforts, too late, to keep Drury at all costs and let Briere go bye bye without much effort. Yet looking at it now, Briere is still the guy they should have kept. Aside from his injuries, he still puts up points. In the end, it's really better for the Sabres that they are both gone. The only problem with that statement is there really is no end. Just the Now....You can always plan for the future but when you can win it now why just let it go..Just to say "in the end we will be better off?" Hell no..Why not go for it now? Scared to pay the price to win it all? Why not do the right thing now? Why didnt they sign them to their deals earlier? Why didnt they add players to help them win it all??? You meen to tell me that we couldnt have gotten a really good pounding defenseman for Derek Roy and Another upandcoming player instead of justt sticking theyre heads in the sand and hoping they can sign them? If they had taken care of the "now" back then they wouldnt have been in the spot they were the past 2 yrs..Instead we are left with" In the End".. Well as I see it right now we still dont have any centers on this team worth a crap..I dont mean to go off on a tangent I just get sick of the excuses we sometimes make to make ourselves justify a series of bad decisions
darksabre Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 I loved Chris when he was here. I think alot of fans loved him. But he turned his back on the Sabres to fulfill his "childhood dream" so I'm actually getting some enjoyment out of watching him fail. I know it's off topic but I can't believe that fans here booed Campbell. The guy wanted to stay and they traded him. Buffalo (apparently) offered Drury similar money but chose the Rags. If anyone should get booed in this stadium it should be Drury! On a side note, why do we always give it Chara every time he has the puck? Did I miss a dirty play against a Sabre at some point in time? We just like to boo star players because we only have Miller.
Two or less Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 I loved Chris when he was here. I think alot of fans loved him. But he turned his back on the Sabres to fulfill his "childhood dream" so I'm actually getting some enjoyment out of watching him fail. I know it's off topic but I can't believe that fans here booed Campbell. The guy wanted to stay and they traded him. Buffalo (apparently) offered Drury similar money but chose the Rags. If anyone should get booed in this stadium it should be Drury! On a side note, why do we always give it Chara every time he has the puck? Did I miss a dirty play against a Sabre at some point in time? Chara was a punk after the lockout with Ottawa. He made tons of dirty hits, one on Briere that i recall. I also think he said something in a post-game interview about Buffalo.
nfreeman Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 The only problem with that statement is there really is no end. Just the Now....You can always plan for the future but when you can win it now why just let it go..Just to say "in the end we will be better off?" Hell no..Why not go for it now? Scared to pay the price to win it all? Why not do the right thing now? Why didnt they sign them to their deals earlier? Why didnt they add players to help them win it all??? You meen to tell me that we couldnt have gotten a really good pounding defenseman for Derek Roy and Another upandcoming player instead of justt sticking theyre heads in the sand and hoping they can sign them? If they had taken care of the "now" back then they wouldnt have been in the spot they were the past 2 yrs..Instead we are left with" In the End".. Well as I see it right now we still dont have any centers on this team worth a crap..I dont mean to go off on a tangent I just get sick of the excuses we sometimes make to make ourselves justify a series of bad decisions Yes indeed. It's hard to see how the Sabres could possibly be "better off" when they completely fell off the table after losing those 2 guys, missed the playoffs for 2 years (when the Rangers and Flyers both made it in both years, including Philly going to the conf. finals) and may or may not get back in the 3rd year.
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