Lanny Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 There was also this: Question: It all started against Detroit in your third game in the regular season. Vanek: That’s right, that was the shoulder injury. I wanted to get back into the line-up as soon as possible and only paused for 2 games or so. Now I know that I should have taken more time to let the shoulder heal, but as a player you always want to play. Well, hindsight is 20/20 as they say. Question: What came next? Vanek: Next I got a shot from Adam Mair right into my belly. I had internal bleeding but kept on playing. Only after a week the pain just got too much. The coach took me out of a line-up saying that it didn’t make sense to keep on playing like that. So I had to pause for 10 days, but it took weeks until I was completely restored.
Stoner Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 There was also this: Question: It all started against Detroit in your third game in the regular season. Vanek: That’s right, that was the shoulder injury. I wanted to get back into the line-up as soon as possible and only paused for 2 games or so. Now I know that I should have taken more time to let the shoulder heal, but as a player you always want to play. Well, hindsight is 20/20 as they say. Question: What came next? Vanek: Next I got a shot from Adam Mair right into my belly. I had internal bleeding but kept on playing. Only after a week the pain just got too much. The coach took me out of a line-up saying that it didn’t make sense to keep on playing like that. So I had to pause for 10 days, but it took weeks until I was completely restored. Anyone care to call BS on this one?
spndnchz Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Anyone care to call BS on this one? He had an internal hematoma from getting hit with that puck and needed electrical shocks among other things to break it up u ######.
VansTheMans Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Wow. :unsure: His stock has gone up in my book. I also like this excerpt: Question: The Sabres were a team with relatively little playoff-experience. Were the many rookies a reason that you were eliminated in the first round?Vanek: That would really be the worst excuse, blaming our young players. We just weren’t good enough and will have to work even harder next year. Question: What impression did the young guys like Gerbe, Ennis and Myers make on you? Vanek: They were great and did a spectacular job. But you’re really in trouble when a rookie is your best player in the playoffs, like it was this year. I’m sure that we’ll see a lot of good things from these guys in the future.
korab rules Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Wow. :unsure: His stock has gone up in my book. I also like this excerpt: Is vanek a step closer to assuming a leadership role on this team?
Stoner Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 He had an internal hematoma from getting hit with that puck and needed electrical shocks among other things to break it up u ######. Internal bleeding=internal hematoma?
Sabre Dance Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Internal bleeding=internal hematoma? Hematoma = bruise = broken capillaries. So, yes.
korab rules Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Hematoma = bruise = broken capillaries. So, yes. It's more significant than a simple bruise - its a collection of blood outside the blood vessels. Internal bleeding results in a hematoma.
wjag Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 These guys really do take a pounding during the course of the season. I asked again, does it make sense to take your best offensive talent, park him in front of the net and shoot pucks at him all game? If there was any part of the O I would love to see revamped is the sequence where: vanek waits at the blue line to enter the zone, proceeds to the front of the net while the other forwards attempt to win control of the puck, pass the puck to the blueline and then fire it at the body of your 7m a year player in hopes that he can tip it in.
shrader Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 These guys really do take a pounding during the course of the season. I asked again, does it make sense to take your best offensive talent, park him in front of the net and shoot pucks at him all game? If there was any part of the O I would love to see revamped is the sequence where: vanek waits at the blue line to enter the zone, proceeds to the front of the net while the other forwards attempt to win control of the puck, pass the puck to the blueline and then fire it at the body of your 7m a year player in hopes that he can tip it in. Is it any more or less of a pounding than a guy who constantly digs the puck out along the boards will take? We can't really answer that one.
carpandean Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 These guys really do take a pounding during the course of the season. I asked again, does it make sense to take your best offensive talent, park him in front of the net and shoot pucks at him all game? If there was any part of the O I would love to see revamped is the sequence where: vanek waits at the blue line to enter the zone, proceeds to the front of the net while the other forwards attempt to win control of the puck, pass the puck to the blueline and then fire it at the body of your 7m a year player in hopes that he can tip it in. Well, they're probably not bringing Adam Mair back and, apparently, he's a bigger threat to that "7m a year player" than slapshots from the blueline. :nana:
inkman Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 I did a complete 180 at the end of last year on him, this helps confirm he is the type of player you can build around
nobody Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Is vanek a step closer to assuming a leadership role on this team? As soon as he rips into Roy, Connolly & Stafford by name. :D OK - as long as he does it in the locker room that should be as far as we should expect. As I've said plenty of times - I wanted the Sabres to draft him so I'm still glad he is on the team.
OTTOnME Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 We can all cross our fingers with Thomas Vanek. The poolies - the ones who usually do well - will tell you that a player who ends the season well is very likely to pick up where he left off the next season. That said - if he is at all healthy - Vanek should again be the sniper he is expected to be.
jpgr909 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Is vanek a step closer to assuming a leadership role on this team? Good question. From what we're reading here, I'd say he already has. Maybe not THE leader, but one of 'em based on leading by example. He was immature in his rookie year, and that's not at all unexpected, but he seems to have grown up quite a bit--no more excuse-making, no more blaming it on the coaches, etc.--or at least it appears so. He's fighting through some serious stuff just to help his team. I love that type of attitude! That's what Buffalo fans appreciate the most with their players.
BuffalOhio Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Some of you are probably thinking, "It's just a shot from Adam Mair, he sucks! Suck it up, Vanek." Well, recently, I've officiated the Smith brothers from here in Cleveland. Both have played D1 hockey. Brandon Smith Jarred Smith Neither one has gotten a look from the NHL, and I can tell you this; their shots are absolute rockets. I pray that they never hit me with one. Therefore, if Mair is a 3rd/4th liner, he's still waaaaay better than either of these two, which means his shot is deadly to anyone it hits in the unprotected midsection. For Vanek to fight through all that he fought through last year, especially getting his ankle twisted AND stepped on by Boychuk shows a TON of heart. Let's hope he stays healthy this year. And I too, disagree with Ruff's strategy to plant him in front of the net all the time. Think, and I hate to say this, Brett Hull. Let TV find the soft spots and get him someone who can feed him for the one-timers. He'd be deadly.
Stoner Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 It's more significant than a simple bruise - its a collection of blood outside the blood vessels. Internal bleeding results in a hematoma. OK, doesn't internal bleeding carry a very significant medical connotation? I mean, every time someone was flow to the 4077th with internal bleeding, they rushed him to surgery. If all bruises are the result of internal bleeding, I internally bled just this morning! And continued to post.
korab rules Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 OK, doesn't internal bleeding carry a very significant medical connotation? I mean, every time someone was flow to the 4077th with internal bleeding, they rushed him to surgery. If all bruises are the result of internal bleeding, I internally bled just this morning! And continued to post. How serious the bleed is depends on the size of the blood vessel that is bleeding and whether the body can stop the bleeding on it's own. Bj and hawkie just loved sticking their hands inside human bodies for kicks.
darksabre Posted July 14, 2010 Report Posted July 14, 2010 OK, doesn't internal bleeding carry a very significant medical connotation? I mean, every time someone was flow to the 4077th with internal bleeding, they rushed him to surgery. If all bruises are the result of internal bleeding, I internally bled just this morning! And continued to post. What does you getting a bruise have to do with Thomas Vanek?
BuffalOhio Posted July 14, 2010 Report Posted July 14, 2010 I would assume the bruise was in an abdominal muscle, and those muscles are pretty important during athletic endeavors.
Lanny Posted July 14, 2010 Report Posted July 14, 2010 OK, doesn't internal bleeding carry a very significant medical connotation? I mean, every time someone was flow to the 4077th with internal bleeding, they rushed him to surgery. If all bruises are the result of internal bleeding, I internally bled just this morning! And continued to post. Why all this work to discredit him? He played injured.
Stoner Posted July 14, 2010 Report Posted July 14, 2010 What does you getting a bruise have to do with Thomas Vanek? Reading is fundamental.
Stoner Posted July 14, 2010 Report Posted July 14, 2010 Why all this work to discredit him? He played injured. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if Thomas is a BSer. I don't believe he played with internal bleeding, at least not in the way 99% of the general public would define it. If chz wasn't apparently suffering her own internal bleeding today, none of this would have happened. I blame her.
darksabre Posted July 14, 2010 Report Posted July 14, 2010 Reading is fundamental. I was just trying to find the part where you got hit by a piece of rubber moving at 75mph.
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