SwampD Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Then the general consensus is stupid. What's that old saying? "None of us is as dumb as all of us"
inkman Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 The general consensus isn't a bunch of Regier-sychophant homers. So you think the Sabres got fleeced as well?
Stoner Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 So you think the Sabres got fleeced as well? Fleeced is a better word than shafted. Thank you. Yeah, I'd say the Sabres got fleeced. A division rival runs into injury trouble and gets one of your highly regarded young players (though to this point in his career, disappointing) for practically nothing? Roster move necessity/salary cap relief really isn't the issue at hand.
shrader Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 The general reaction to a trade where one side gets a player and the other doesn't pretty much always leans towards the team that is getting something now.
carpandean Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 The general consensus isn't a bunch of Regier-sychophant homers. At the same time, most of that general consensus are probably fans from other teams that know little more about Danny than that he was a first-round pick, who once scored 19 goals. How much do you know about the players in other team's pressboxes or on their fourth lines other than just those types of stats? Those "Regier-sychophant homers" probably know a little bit more about him. I'm not saying it was a great deal, but I don't believe that they got fleeced. They made a move that they felt they needed to in order to free up space. They got more than they would have gotten if someone (Danny?) was placed on waivers and picked up for nothing.
SwampD Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Fleeced is a better word than shafted. Thank you. Yeah, I'd say the Sabres got fleeced. A division rival runs into injury trouble and gets one of your highly regarded young players (though to this point in his career, disappointing) for practically nothing? Roster move necessity/salary cap relief really isn't the issue at hand. Highly regarded by who? Not me. Anyone else that comes up to fill his place is not going to do any less than he did. We got something for him and are saving some money. Oh, and we're 5-1-1.
LabattBlue Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 The Sabres got fleeced? I don't think so at all. In fact I am finally glad to see them turnover the roster somewhat and get rid of players who for whatever reason aren't working out. After two years of missing the playoffs, I still believe they should have tried to move someone out of the top 6 over the offseason, as I am not in the camp that the core as it stands today is one to build around. Bad pun, but "Is something rotten in the core"?
Stoner Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 The Sabres got fleeced? I don't think so at all. In fact I am finally glad to see them turnover the roster somewhat and get rid of players who for whatever reason aren't working out. After two years of missing the playoffs, I still believe they should have tried to move someone out of the top 6 over the offseason, as I am not in the camp that the core as it stands today is one to build around. Bad pun, but "Is something rotten in the core"? You can turn over the roster and still get fleeced.
Stoner Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Highly regarded by who? Not me. Anyone else that comes up to fill his place is not going to do any less than he did. We got something for him and are saving some money. Oh, and we're 5-1-1. By Lindy.
LabattBlue Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 You can turn over the roster and still get fleeced. ...but not in this case. I am sick of them hanging on to Lindy's whipping boys because Darcy can't bear to give up the guys he drafted and/or has fallen in love with because of the run to the conference finals two consecutive years. I'm glad Max and Kotalik are gone and knowing that Paille has been in the past and continued to be in Ruff's doghouse, I'm glad he is gone too.
BetweenThePipes00 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 The Sabres got a 4th rounder for Pyatt, who was a higher pick and sure seemed more highly regarded than Paille ... so far, that's looking about right. In this case they got a third rounder and a little something if Paiile plays well ... doesn't seem like a fleecing to me. Paille may turn out better than Pyatt but so far they are about the same.
SteamRoller72 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 You can turn over the roster and still get fleeced. Saying the Sabres got fleeced in any trade involvong dead weight Paille is ludicrous. The fact that a team gave up multiple picks for him is baffling. Maybe a fifth rounder, but a 3rd and possible 4th is fleecing... by the Sabres.
wonderbread Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 "perception is in the eye of the perceiver"
BetweenThePipes00 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Saying the Sabres got fleeced in any trade involvong dead weight Paille is ludicrous. The fact that a team gave up multiple picks for him is baffling. Maybe a fifth rounder, but a 3rd and possible 4th is fleecing... by the Sabres. While I disagreed with PA above, it's too early to say EITHER team got the better of the deal. Hasek and Briere and Dumont were probably considered "dead weight" when the Sabres got them in trade. Let's see how it plays out ...
Stoner Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 "perception is in the eye of the perceiver" Indeed. It'll be interesting to see how the natives perceive this trade if (when) the Sabres catch the injury bug up front.
jad1 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Indeed. It'll be interesting to see how the natives perceive this trade if (when) the Sabres catch the injury bug up front. The Sabres caught the injury bug up front last season. Paille didn't step up then, what make you think he would have done it this year? And if they need run into injuries and need to aquire a 4th liner to play on the 2nd line, the going price has been set at a 4th round pick for a slacker who 'needs a change of scenery.' The Sabres have plenty of those to make a deal.
korab rules Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 While I disagreed with PA above, it's too early to say EITHER team got the better of the deal. Hasek and Briere and Dumont were probably considered "dead weight" when the Sabres got them in trade. Let's see how it plays out ... This is the truth. Paille may pull his head out of his new wife's hind end and realize he has to play hockey or she will divorce his broke ass when he's making 50K in the AHL. Then again, he may fade into obscurity. The Sabres may turn that 3rd (and the unlikely 4th contingency pick) into gold. Or they may draft another scrub who never makes the grade. Difficult to determine who "got the better" of a trade like this until at least 5 years down the road. In the meantime, both sides are happy. Regier has another pick he can use on a pseudo power forward with no hands that won't command a large salary when he reaches free agency in 2035, and the Bruins have a body they can stick on the ice until their mash unit of a locker room clears out.
nfreeman Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 This is the truth. Paille may pull his head out of his new wife's hind end and realize he has to play hockey or she will divorce his broke ass when he's making 50K in the AHL. Then again, he may fade into obscurity. Of course, guys whose issues include complacency, effort and focus don't typically improve on those issues AFTER they get married. But anything is possible. More to the point, I agree that it's impossible to declare a winner in this trade at this point, although the Sabres will look kinda silly in the (unlikely) event that Paille has a strong year for the Bruins.
LabattBlue Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 I can almost guarantee one thing... If Paille gets up to 14 or 15 goals with less than 10 games to go in the year, don't be surprised if his ice time is reduced. I don't care how many picks Boston has in the first two rounds, if a team can retain a conditional 4th round pick, it will do everything it can to make it happen.
korab rules Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 I can almost guarantee one thing... If Paille gets up to 14 or 15 goals with less than 10 games to go in the year, don't be surprised if his ice time is reduced. I don't care how many picks Boston has in the first two rounds, if a team can retain a conditional 4th round pick, it will do everything it can to make it happen. Agree 100%, unless they are struggling for eighth, then all bets are off.
inkman Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 This is the truth. Paille may pull his head out of his new wife's hind end... for his sake I hope not. Yummy.
korab rules Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 for his sake I hope not. Yummy. Is it any wonder why his game has gone to #%^$#!? The guy is flat out exhausted!
Mbossy Posted November 11, 2009 Report Posted November 11, 2009 FWIW, Paille netted his first of the year (and first with Boston) last night. Good shot on a breakaway vs Fleury.
darksabre Posted November 11, 2009 Report Posted November 11, 2009 His line had a good game last night and he made that breakaway goal look easy. I don't think I ever saw Paille work as hard here as he did last night for Boston.
Mbossy Posted November 11, 2009 Report Posted November 11, 2009 and Miller gets sent to Detroit. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=505712&cmpid=rss-News
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