Eleven Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I don't normally watch non-Bills NFL games (I like Saturday football), but I stayed with one tonight. And I'm glad; THAT's what an NFL game is supposed to look like; it's not supposed to be a series of boneheaded plays mixed in between ads, and the winner is the team which makes less of the boneheaded plays. Damn, watching the Colts comeback reminded me of some football team from nearly 20 years ago. And McJeff, you are right on; there is something about a long schedule, allowing some adjustment(s), that is appealing.
cdexchange Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 3-13 is a very real possibility. This would by far be the most desirable outcome at this point. The last thing I wanna see is 7-9 again.
carpandean Posted November 16, 2009 Author Report Posted November 16, 2009 This would by far be the most desirable outcome at this point. The last thing I wanna see is 7-9 again. Yeah, it's almost unfortunate that the Panthers and, especially, the Jets decided to play as badly as they did, giving the Bills those games. 1-15 would have been a stronger signal that change is needed and would have given them a shot at a real quarterback in the draft. Hopefully, if they do go 3-13, it will still be low enough. Clausen or Locker would be nice to have. That game last night was amazing. Two quarterbacks who just don't know how to lose.
Stoner Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Is Ralph really going to eat the last two years of Jauron's contract? If Jauron wasn't fired before this season, why after this one? And you can't saddle a new GM with a coach. I'm hoping that decline the penalty decision will be a light bulb moment for Ralph. But who's to say another new coach will be any different?
deluca67 Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Is Ralph really going to eat the last two years of Jauron's contract? If Jauron wasn't fired before this season, why after this one? And you can't saddle a new GM with a coach. I'm hoping that decline the penalty decision will be a light bulb moment for Ralph. But who's to say another new coach will be any different? Jauron is here for the remainder of the contract no matter what the record is. They will blame this season on injuries and use what ever excuse falls to them next season. Signing a actual GM is out of the question. They have a guy in place who does his one responsibility really well. He picks of the phone and says "Yes! Mr. Wilson." This franchise has only seen success when Wilson is not involved. Even if the Wilson became serious about building a winner, what self respecting head coach or GM is going to take a job that would include answering to a senile old man like Ralph Wilson. The only difference between Wilson and Al Davis is that the Raiders are a better story.
Stoner Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Jauron is here for the remainder of the contract no matter what the record is. They will blame this season on injuries and use what ever excuse falls to them next season. Signing a actual GM is out of the question. They have a guy in place who does his one responsibility really well. He picks of the phone and says "Yes! Mr. Wilson." This franchise has only seen success when Wilson is not involved. Even if the Wilson became serious about building a winner, what self respecting head coach or GM is going to take a job that would include answering to a senile old man like Ralph Wilson. The only difference between Wilson and Al Davis is that the Raiders are a better story. I'm pretty sure the comment was half in jest, but is there any indication Ralph is senile? He doesn't seem that way to me. He seems like the Ralph of old.
deluca67 Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I'm pretty sure the comment was half in jest, but is there any indication Ralph is senile? He doesn't seem that way to me. He seems like the Ralph of old. I base it on the previous press conferences. Every time he speaks he seems, at least to me, to be a little less lucid.
shrader Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I love the reaction I've gotten from random people around here in Boston when I say "even Jauron would've punted".
Stoner Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I base it on the previous press conferences. Every time he speaks he seems, at least to me, to be a little less lucid. He has a problem with his voice and his hearing might be getting worse, and he's not moving as well as before, but when it comes down to WHAT he's saying, I don't see a man who's less lucid than before. Unfortunately, I think some agist stereotypes are creeping in here. I, for one, would never subject a professional sports franchise owner to such stereotypes!
Stoner Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I love the reaction I've gotten from random people around here in Boston when I say "even Jauron would've punted". This is really interesting. There was just a story in the news about a football team (high school or college, I don't remember) that almost never punts (or never punts, period). A statistical analysis showed that there wasn't as much of a penalty as you might think for going for it in your own territory and not making it. Think about it. How much less likely was it that Peyton Freaking Manning was going to drive his team for a touchdown from 40 or 50 yards downfield than from where he ended up starting, around the 30, I think. There was something to be gained by punting, but maybe not a lot. Weigh this modest risk against the tremendous reward of "immediately" winning the game by converting a fourth and short, and it might have been a very logical decision. I'll look for a link to that story. Here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html
deluca67 Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I love the reaction I've gotten from random people around here in Boston when I say "even Jauron would've punted". I loved the call Belichick made. A man that made a decision like he has a pair. Go for two yards or kick the ball back to a red hot Peyton Manning? It was a great call. He showed faith in his offense to get two yards. Unlike Jauron who doesn't have enough faith in his defense to stop a 3 and 16 or whatever it was.
shrader Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 This is really interesting. There was just a story in the news about a football team (high school or college, I don't remember) that almost never punts (or never punts, period). A statistical analysis showed that there wasn't as much of a penalty as you might think for going for it in your own territory and not making it. Think about it. How much less likely was it that Peyton Freaking Manning was going to drive his team for a touchdown from 40 or 50 yards downfield than from where he ended up starting, around the 30, I think. There was something to be gained by punting, but maybe not a lot. Weigh this modest risk against the tremendous reward of "immediately" winning the game by converting a fourth and short, and it might have been a very logical decision. I'll look for a link to that story. Here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/09/17/no.punt/index.html There's so many factors involved with this one, the exact field position, amount of time left on the clock, quality of opponent (there's your big one), etc... The thing that really stick out to me with that game though is the pure energy that Indy gets out of making that stop. I can't remember too many other times where I knew immediately that a team was going to score quickly (well, other than any late drive against the Bills).
Mbossy Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 So... who now? Bill Cowher? Mike Shanahan? John Gruden? Bill Parcells? Mike Holmgren? Tony Dungy?
cdexchange Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 So... who now? Bill Cowher? Mike Shanahan? John Gruden? Bill Parcells? Mike Holmgren? Tony Dungy? Well, you can scratch Chucky off that list, as he just re-upped with ESPN.
nobody Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 So... who now? Bill Cowher? Mike Shanahan? John Gruden? Bill Parcells? Mike Holmgren? Tony Dungy? Perry Fewell.
shrader Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 Well, you can scratch Chucky off that list, as he just re-upped with ESPN. I'm sure he has an out in that deal if he finds the right offer. There's no chance in hell it comes from Buffalo though.
LabattBlue Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 As I think about the current players on defense, the front 7 is a mess if they stay in a 4-3 scheme and in a bigger mess if they switch to a 3-4.
wjag Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 Okay now.. Go out and pay Cowher 15M per for three years. Do it now so you can have at least one trophy before you go..
Stoner Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 Okay now.. Go out and pay Cowher 15M per for three years. Do it now so you can have at least one trophy before you go.. I think I heard Pumpkin Head John Murphy (credit: The Coach) say the scuttlebutt was that a "football man" would be brought in to serve UNDER Brandon and Ralph. What serious football man is going to walk into a situation where you report to the Magnetic Schedule Maker (credit: DeLuca)?
LabattBlue Posted November 18, 2009 Report Posted November 18, 2009 What serious football man is going to walk into a situation where you report to the Magnetic Schedule Maker (credit: DeLuca)? :lol: :lol: ...sort of like DR having to report to a construction manager?? <_<
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Taro T Posted November 18, 2009 Report Posted November 18, 2009 Jauron is here for the remainder of the contract no matter what the record is. They will blame this season on injuries and use what ever excuse falls to them next season. Signing a actual GM is out of the question. They have a guy in place who does his one responsibility really well. He picks of the phone and says "Yes! Mr. Wilson." This franchise has only seen success when Wilson is not involved. Even if the Wilson became serious about building a winner, what self respecting head coach or GM is going to take a job that would include answering to a senile old man like Ralph Wilson. The only difference between Wilson and Al Davis is that the Raiders are a better story. :doh: In fairness, after they kept him through the bye week I didn't think they'd punt him until after the season was over. :unsure: Err, I meant until they were done playing. :unsure: Err, well, after week 17; does that work? :P
nfreeman Posted November 18, 2009 Report Posted November 18, 2009 My bottom line on the Bills is the same as it was before the season: there is no chance of success until they bring in a real GM. Firing Jauron was the right move, but it's just a start. If they keep Modrak, Guy and Brandon and hire some hot young coordinator as the new coach, we're looking at more BS next year. They need to fire those 3 bozos and hire Cowher or Shanahan or someone on that level to run the whole show. Until they do that, they aren't going be a relevant team in the NFL.
Taro T Posted November 18, 2009 Report Posted November 18, 2009 My bottom line on the Bills is the same as it was before the season: there is no chance of success until they bring in a real GM. Firing Jauron was the right move, but it's just a start. If they keep Modrak, Guy and Brandon and hire some hot young coordinator as the new coach, we're looking at more BS next year. They need to fire those 3 bozos and hire Cowher or Shanahan or someone on that level to run the whole show. Until they do that, they aren't going be a relevant team in the NFL. I wouldn't fire Brandon, the guy appears to be a marketing genius. But I would put him back in charge of everything non-football related and give that portion of the job to someone that knows, oh what the heck let's try something crazy and pick someone that knows, FOOTBALL.
deluca67 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Posted November 18, 2009 :doh: In fairness, after they kept him through the bye week I didn't think they'd punt him until after the season was over. :unsure: Err, I meant until they were done playing. :unsure: Err, well, after week 17; does that work? :P I've never been happier to be wrong. I don't know if it was a temporary moment of clarity for Wilson or if he woke up in a bad mood. Whatever it was I'm glad it's finally done. Now it's a matter of what's next.
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