San Diego Sabres Fan Posted September 11, 2009 Report Posted September 11, 2009 I am shocked to see how many quality free agents that are stilllooking for jobs? You can't tell me this late in the game that there are not guys available that would help the Sabres? Dominic Moore, Dennis Seidenberg, Boyd Devereaux, Dmitri Kalinin-just kidding about him! Camp opens Sunday and it looks like they are going with what they got?
SabreFan78 Posted September 11, 2009 Report Posted September 11, 2009 I am shocked to see how many quality free agents that are stilllooking for jobs? You can't tell me this late in the game that there are not guys available that would help the Sabres? Dominic Moore, Dennis Seidenberg, Boyd Devereaux, Dmitri Kalinin-just kidding about him! Camp opens Sunday and it looks like they are going with what they got? In Buffalo the status quo is the way to go!
Calvin Posted September 11, 2009 Report Posted September 11, 2009 I am shocked to see how many quality free agents that are stilllooking for jobs? You can't tell me this late in the game that there are not guys available that would help the Sabres? Dominic Moore, Dennis Seidenberg, Boyd Devereaux, Dmitri Kalinin-just kidding about him! Camp opens Sunday and it looks like they are going with what they got? we haven't signed any of them neither have any of the other 29 teams, or their AHL affiliates what does that say?
shrader Posted September 11, 2009 Report Posted September 11, 2009 I am shocked to see how many quality free agents that are stilllooking for jobs? You can't tell me this late in the game that there are not guys available that would help the Sabres? Dominic Moore, Dennis Seidenberg, Boyd Devereaux, Dmitri Kalinin-just kidding about him! Camp opens Sunday and it looks like they are going with what they got? I know it's a joke comment and all, but I might as well point out that Kalinin signed with a KHL team. He is not available for any NHL team at this point.
spndnchz Posted September 11, 2009 Report Posted September 11, 2009 Basic supply and demand economics would tell you that players are going to make less money in the coming years, the league may get better because only the best players will be on the ice and we'll see a lockout in 2012 because the players will feel cheated. Here's :beer: to the next two seasons.
sweeper Posted September 11, 2009 Report Posted September 11, 2009 I thought this was fairly obvious, but the Sabres couldn't sign any of them if they wanted...they don't have the cap room (assuming they ever get something done with Stafford)
red Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 I'd live to see them bring back Peca and Moore. Let 'em battle for a job, and may the best man win.
spndnchz Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 I'd live to see them bring back Peca and Moore. Let 'em battle for a job, and may the best man win. Word on some streets is that Peca got an invite to camp. He has been skating with the boys (Biron, McKee, et al over the summer at the Pepsi center).
apuszczalowski Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 Word on some streets is that Peca got an invite to camp. He has been skating with the boys (Biron, McKee, et al over the summer at the Pepsi center). I don't think that means anything, I think he does that every year with them
red Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 I don't think that means anything, I think he does that every year with them Yeah, Sullivan's article this past week noted that Peca still has a home in the area, is from Ontario, etc. Every year Biron and Peca, McKee, etc come back for catching up and stuff. I would have loved for them to sign McKee, but think Peca would be a nice fit back in Buffalo. With all of the arguments of "having too many forwards" Regier keeps spouting though, I don't think that it is likely. Moore was also really good on faceoffs, and this is one of those intangible factors the Sabres don't have but need. I've never been sold on Gaustad, Connolly is injured way too much, and I would love these 2 guys back in Blue and Gold.
sweeper Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 Well, if Connolly gets hurt again, they could very well sign one of them if they're still around.
SabresFan526 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Posted September 13, 2009 In general regarding the initial topic, I think the salary cap has created the elimination of the middle class in terms of NHL players. Or more realistically, teams go with one of two strategies, eliminate the middle class or have exclusively middle class players. What I mean by this is that many teams have gone with a top heavy approach spending about 30-50% of their cap on 5-6 players and the rest on players who are cheap or on entry level deals. Pittsburgh has basically gone that way. Detroit, to a large extent, spends their cap in the same way. So what happens is that teams look to get value out of their lower paid players than pay middle tier money for middle tier players. The Sabres, on the other hand, are firm believers in building a team predominantly of middle class players. Vanek and Miller are the only players paid at elite level. The bulk of the team is paid middle class salaries. Interesting strategies, but it seems the more successful teams have a few really top talent players and try to get value at the low end whereas the Sabres try to build a team mostly of middle class talent. Either scoring is evenly spread out and you get equal production from everyone leading to a very good team like we saw from 2005-2007 or you have a very mediocre team like we've seen the past two years. We'll see what happens, but that has generally been the Sabres philosophy since Regier has been here. Even with the Hasek teams, it was Hasek and a bunch of mediocre players who performed above their talent level. As for the available players, with Mair gone for what looks to be the beginning of the season and potentially longer, the Sabres might do well to see if they can get a depth center for that fourth line such as a Peca or Moore and waive Cody McCormick to Portland. However, my gut tells me that the Sabres will go into the season with a fourth line of Paille-Ellis-Kaleta and not make an additional signing. I'm really hoping they can find a taker for Tallinder. I'm just hoping some team faces some major injuries to their blue line to where we can trade Tallinder. Oh well.
Mbossy Posted October 5, 2009 Report Posted October 5, 2009 http://panthers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=501076 Moore signs one year deal with Panthers.
X. Benedict Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 1.1 million. That's Moore than Max. and a decent deal.....
wonderbread Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 and a decent deal..... But signifacantly less than what was figured prior to the start of FA. IIRC he wanted 3 per year? I guess he will have to wipe his ass with $20's instead of $100's.
korab rules Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 But signifacantly less than what was figured prior to the start of FA. IIRC he wanted 3 per year? I guess he will have to wipe his ass with $20's instead of $100's. Was there ever any word on what the sabres were offering him. I want to say they danced a little before or at the beginning of free agency. Hope he fired his agent!
shrader Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 Was there ever any word on what the sabres were offering him. I want to say they danced a little before or at the beginning of free agency. Hope he fired his agent! You're assuming they were actually offering him anything.
korab rules Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 You're assuming they were actually offering him anything. Couldn't have been much worse than what he got!
bflosbrsfan Posted October 7, 2009 Report Posted October 7, 2009 Not too bad for what TSN calls "offensive punch" at 13 goals and 32 assists in 81 games last year. He was said to be good on draws, but I was pretty disappointed in him down the stretch with the Sabres last year! He should be happy to be on the ice!
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