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um Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez > Montador

Be nice, he's just upset because I told him this morning the Habs would be replacing the players they lost and distance themselves from the Sabres. The Habs did a much better job than I anticipated.

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um Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez > Montador

 

But what they are really talking about is whether or not

 

Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez >

 

Patrice Brisebois, Mathieu Dandenault, Saku Koivu, Mike Komisarek, Tom Kostopoulos, Alex Kovalev, Robert Lang, Mathieu Schneider, Alex Tanguay?

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But what they are really talking about is whether or not

 

Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez >

 

Patrice Brisebois, Mathieu Dandenault, Saku Koivu, Mike Komisarek, Tom Kostopoulos, Alex Kovalev, Robert Lang, Mathieu Schneider, Alex Tanguay?

If your intent was to backup what Jack was saying, job well done.

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um Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez > Montador

This post completely misses the point.

 

Be nice, he's just upset because I told him this morning the Habs would be replacing the players they lost and distance themselves from the Sabres. The Habs did a much better job than I anticipated.

I appreciate your concern for my feelings. And I know you wanted more action today. But you're avoiding the facts. The Habs panicked. They blew up a team that needed tweaking, not blowing up, and spent way too much money and assets bringing in a bunch of overrated, overpriced players.

 

Gionta is 5'7", 30 years old, and a nice 20-30-50 scorer who had one big scoring year FOUR years ago. If the Sabres had given him $5MM x 5 years you would've been parked outside Darcy's office with a shotgun.

 

Cammaleri is a 5'9" center who is more or less equivalent to Roy. Again -- if the Sabres had brought him in for $6MM x 5 years, I don't see you being happy about it.

 

Gomez is a decent player who over the last 3 years has a total of 7 more points than Koivu does (although Koivu played 7 fewer games).

 

Spacek is a decent defenseman who had 2 disappointing years with the Sabres and then a good one in his contract year. I'd much rather have Komisarek. And Gill is just mediocre.

 

As you stated earlier (and at the risk of reopening the pornographic ink-cheeze dialogue), the proof will be in the pudding. I don't the Habs have "distanced themselves" from the Sabres or from anyone else unless you're talking about moving down in the EC, not up.

 

But what they are really talking about is whether or not

 

Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez >

 

Patrice Brisebois, Mathieu Dandenault, Saku Koivu, Mike Komisarek, Tom Kostopoulos, Alex Kovalev, Robert Lang, Mathieu Schneider, Alex Tanguay?

There we go.

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This post completely misses the point.

I appreciate your concern for my feelings. And I know you wanted more action today. But you're avoiding the facts. The Habs panicked. They blew up a team that needed tweaking, not blowing up, and spent way too much money and assets bringing in a bunch of overrated, overpriced players.

 

Gionta is 5'7", 30 years old, and a nice 20-30-50 scorer who had one big scoring year FOUR years ago. If the Sabres had given him $5MM x 5 years you would've been parked outside Darcy's office with a shotgun.

 

Cammaleri is a 5'9" center who is more or less equivalent to Roy. Again -- if the Sabres had brought him in for $6MM x 5 years, I don't see you being happy about it.

 

Gomez is a decent player who over the last 3 years has a total of 7 more points than Koivu does (although Koivu played 7 fewer games).

 

Spacek is a decent defenseman who had 2 disappointing years with the Sabres and then a good one in his contract year. I'd much rather have Komisarek. And Gill is just mediocre.

 

As you stated earlier (and at the risk of reopening the pornographic ink-cheeze dialogue), the proof will be in the pudding. I don't the Habs have "distanced themselves" from the Sabres or from anyone else unless you're talking about moving down in the EC, not up.

There we go.

 

What he said.

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Be nice, he's just upset because I told him this morning the Habs would be replacing the players they lost and distance themselves from the Sabres. The Habs did a much better job than I anticipated.

 

Gomez-Gionta-Plekanec pretty much gives them a line

Camellari -Kostizyn-Latendress - For a top 6?......

 

Is a pretty tiny lineup for a top 6

 

Gainey's gonna need to spend a lot more.

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What he said.

 

 

yeah...I think the Habs have grossly overspent. Its these FA day 1 signings that are going to be the death of the league.

 

BTW Havlat has a verbal agreement with the wild.

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This post completely misses the point.

I appreciate your concern for my feelings. And I know you wanted more action today. But you're avoiding the facts. The Habs panicked. They blew up a team that needed tweaking, not blowing up, and spent way too much money and assets bringing in a bunch of overrated, overpriced players.

 

Gionta is 5'7", 30 years old, and a nice 20-30-50 scorer who had one big scoring year FOUR years ago. If the Sabres had given him $5MM x 5 years you would've been parked outside Darcy's office with a shotgun.

 

Cammaleri is a 5'9" center who is more or less equivalent to Roy. Again -- if the Sabres had brought him in for $6MM x 5 years, I don't see you being happy about it.

 

Gomez is a decent player who over the last 3 years has a total of 7 more points than Koivu does (although Koivu played 7 fewer games).

 

Spacek is a decent defenseman who had 2 disappointing years with the Sabres and then a good one in his contract year. I'd much rather have Komisarek. And Gill is just mediocre.

 

As you stated earlier (and at the risk of reopening the pornographic ink-cheeze dialogue), the proof will be in the pudding. I don't the Habs have "distanced themselves" from the Sabres or from anyone else unless you're talking about moving down in the EC, not up.

There we go.

The Habs didn't "panic." It just doesn't take some teams as much time to realize when things aren't working as long as it does the Sabres. All teams make mistakes. The Sabres problem isn't that they make mistakes, it's that they refuse to admit them and end up repeating them for, example Tim Connolly.

 

For the record, I would take Gionta or Cammaleri on this team if the current make up of the team was different.

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The Habs didn't "panic." It just doesn't take some teams as much time to realize when things aren't working as long as it does the Sabres. All teams make mistakes. The Sabres problem isn't that they make mistakes, it's that they refuse to admot them and end repeating them for example Tim Connolly.

 

For the record, I would take Gionta or Cammaleri on this team if the current make up of the team was different.

 

It took two years for the Sabres to realize things weren't working out, and they let Briere and the Intangible walk. You were not happy with that if I remember correctly, but maybe I don't. The Sabres blew it up quickly enough--they're just rebuilding differently. Instead of overspending recklessly, they are trying to build from within. Not sure whether it will work, but the Sabres certainly realized what was NOT working, and that was Briere, Drury, Campbell, and the rest of the "leaders" that failed to inspire the team to play decent hockey down the stretch in 2007.

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The Habs didn't "panic." It just doesn't take some teams as much time to realize when things aren't working as long as it does the Sabres. All teams make mistakes. The Sabres problem isn't that they make mistakes, it's that they refuse to admot them and end repeating them for example Tim Connolly.

 

For the record, I would take Gionta or Cammaleri on this team if the current make up of the team was different.

So you mean if we didn't have the same type/size of a playa already, we'd go after them? Those guys are now "old school" overpaid, undersized. What we seem to be trying to get away from.

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Heatley meeting with Oilers personally. Jeez, do it already. Stop crying to your momma friends and sign you ______.

Seriously. If you don't like it there after a year, you can always request another trade ...

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If your intent was to backup what Jack was saying, job well done.

 

nfree pretty much posted most of what I was going to write before i just had a lightening surge...

 

 

but Spacek and Gil are NOT better than Shneider and Komiserik

 

And I don't think you would find too many people who think so....

 

Gainey could still sign Kovalev, and now I think he has to to make this work.

 

Not a bad day....but it is hard to say he made the Habs better yet.

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It took two years for the Sabres to realize things weren't working out, and they let Briere and the Intangible walk. You were not happy with that if I remember correctly, but maybe I don't. The Sabres blew it up quickly enough--they're just rebuilding differently. Instead of overspending recklessly, they are trying to build from within. Not sure whether it will work, but the Sabres certainly realized what was NOT working, and that was Briere, Drury, Campbell, and the rest of the "leaders" that failed to inspire the team to play decent hockey down the stretch in 2007.

 

Might be the dumbest thing anyone has said about anything ever.

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So you mean if we didn't have the same type/size of a playa already, we'd go after them? Those guys are now "old school" overpaid, undersized. What we seem to be trying to get away from.

I am not against having smaller players on the roster. I am against the lack of balance the Sabres have on the roster. There is nothing worse than being small and soft.

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True dat, like others have said, I still don't see the proof that the team works as a team. i.e. Hossa, Wings. For that matter Sabres. If they get together like 05, team, same page etc maybe, but I don't see it. I'd rather be a sad fan who's team didn't sign some big name, but had a TEAM.

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It took two years for the Sabres to realize things weren't working out, and they let Briere and the Intangible walk. You were not happy with that if I remember correctly, but maybe I don't. The Sabres blew it up quickly enough--they're just rebuilding differently. Instead of overspending recklessly, they are trying to build from within. Not sure whether it will work, but the Sabres certainly realized what was NOT working, and that was Briere, Drury, Campbell, and the rest of the "leaders" that failed to inspire the team to play decent hockey down the stretch in 2007.

Not to ruin your train of thought. I defended Regier when Briere and Drury left. Briere was a smart business move and I blame Drury for him being in New York. It's not about two years ago. It's about this current roster and about $16.5 million wasted on players easily replaced if not for their ridiculous contracts.

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Not to ruin your train of thought. I defended Regier when Briere and Drury left. Briere was a smart business move and I blame Drury for him being in New York. It's not about two years ago. It's about this current roster and about $16.5 million wasted on players easily replaced if not for their ridiculous contracts.

 

That's not a crazy point of view at all.

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Not to ruin your train of thought. I defended Regier when Briere and Drury left. Briere was a smart business move and I blame Drury for him being in New York. It's not about two years ago. It's about this current roster and about $16.5 million wasted on players easily replaced if not for their ridiculous contracts.

Call'em out who's in ur 16.5 million waste bag? I'm closer to 20 mill.

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