deluca67 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 um Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez > Montador Be nice, he's just upset because I told him this morning the Habs would be replacing the players they lost and distance themselves from the Sabres. The Habs did a much better job than I anticipated.
deluca67 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 Any guess when Darcy comes out and declares, "we have our big free agent signing. He will be wearing #19 this season."
SabreInFla Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 Any guess when Darcy comes out and declares, "we have our big free agent signing. He will be wearing #19 this season." Or, he will be wearing #61.
X. Benedict Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 um Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez > Montador But what they are really talking about is whether or not Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez > Patrice Brisebois, Mathieu Dandenault, Saku Koivu, Mike Komisarek, Tom Kostopoulos, Alex Kovalev, Robert Lang, Mathieu Schneider, Alex Tanguay?
deluca67 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 But what they are really talking about is whether or not Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez > Patrice Brisebois, Mathieu Dandenault, Saku Koivu, Mike Komisarek, Tom Kostopoulos, Alex Kovalev, Robert Lang, Mathieu Schneider, Alex Tanguay? If your intent was to backup what Jack was saying, job well done.
nfreeman Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 um Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez > Montador This post completely misses the point. Be nice, he's just upset because I told him this morning the Habs would be replacing the players they lost and distance themselves from the Sabres. The Habs did a much better job than I anticipated. I appreciate your concern for my feelings. And I know you wanted more action today. But you're avoiding the facts. The Habs panicked. They blew up a team that needed tweaking, not blowing up, and spent way too much money and assets bringing in a bunch of overrated, overpriced players. Gionta is 5'7", 30 years old, and a nice 20-30-50 scorer who had one big scoring year FOUR years ago. If the Sabres had given him $5MM x 5 years you would've been parked outside Darcy's office with a shotgun. Cammaleri is a 5'9" center who is more or less equivalent to Roy. Again -- if the Sabres had brought him in for $6MM x 5 years, I don't see you being happy about it. Gomez is a decent player who over the last 3 years has a total of 7 more points than Koivu does (although Koivu played 7 fewer games). Spacek is a decent defenseman who had 2 disappointing years with the Sabres and then a good one in his contract year. I'd much rather have Komisarek. And Gill is just mediocre. As you stated earlier (and at the risk of reopening the pornographic ink-cheeze dialogue), the proof will be in the pudding. I don't the Habs have "distanced themselves" from the Sabres or from anyone else unless you're talking about moving down in the EC, not up. But what they are really talking about is whether or not Spacek and Gil, Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez > Patrice Brisebois, Mathieu Dandenault, Saku Koivu, Mike Komisarek, Tom Kostopoulos, Alex Kovalev, Robert Lang, Mathieu Schneider, Alex Tanguay? There we go.
rickshaw Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 This post completely misses the point.I appreciate your concern for my feelings. And I know you wanted more action today. But you're avoiding the facts. The Habs panicked. They blew up a team that needed tweaking, not blowing up, and spent way too much money and assets bringing in a bunch of overrated, overpriced players. Gionta is 5'7", 30 years old, and a nice 20-30-50 scorer who had one big scoring year FOUR years ago. If the Sabres had given him $5MM x 5 years you would've been parked outside Darcy's office with a shotgun. Cammaleri is a 5'9" center who is more or less equivalent to Roy. Again -- if the Sabres had brought him in for $6MM x 5 years, I don't see you being happy about it. Gomez is a decent player who over the last 3 years has a total of 7 more points than Koivu does (although Koivu played 7 fewer games). Spacek is a decent defenseman who had 2 disappointing years with the Sabres and then a good one in his contract year. I'd much rather have Komisarek. And Gill is just mediocre. As you stated earlier (and at the risk of reopening the pornographic ink-cheeze dialogue), the proof will be in the pudding. I don't the Habs have "distanced themselves" from the Sabres or from anyone else unless you're talking about moving down in the EC, not up. There we go. What he said.
X. Benedict Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 Be nice, he's just upset because I told him this morning the Habs would be replacing the players they lost and distance themselves from the Sabres. The Habs did a much better job than I anticipated. Gomez-Gionta-Plekanec pretty much gives them a line Camellari -Kostizyn-Latendress - For a top 6?...... Is a pretty tiny lineup for a top 6 Gainey's gonna need to spend a lot more.
wonderbread Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 What he said. yeah...I think the Habs have grossly overspent. Its these FA day 1 signings that are going to be the death of the league. BTW Havlat has a verbal agreement with the wild.
deluca67 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 This post completely misses the point.I appreciate your concern for my feelings. And I know you wanted more action today. But you're avoiding the facts. The Habs panicked. They blew up a team that needed tweaking, not blowing up, and spent way too much money and assets bringing in a bunch of overrated, overpriced players. Gionta is 5'7", 30 years old, and a nice 20-30-50 scorer who had one big scoring year FOUR years ago. If the Sabres had given him $5MM x 5 years you would've been parked outside Darcy's office with a shotgun. Cammaleri is a 5'9" center who is more or less equivalent to Roy. Again -- if the Sabres had brought him in for $6MM x 5 years, I don't see you being happy about it. Gomez is a decent player who over the last 3 years has a total of 7 more points than Koivu does (although Koivu played 7 fewer games). Spacek is a decent defenseman who had 2 disappointing years with the Sabres and then a good one in his contract year. I'd much rather have Komisarek. And Gill is just mediocre. As you stated earlier (and at the risk of reopening the pornographic ink-cheeze dialogue), the proof will be in the pudding. I don't the Habs have "distanced themselves" from the Sabres or from anyone else unless you're talking about moving down in the EC, not up. There we go. The Habs didn't "panic." It just doesn't take some teams as much time to realize when things aren't working as long as it does the Sabres. All teams make mistakes. The Sabres problem isn't that they make mistakes, it's that they refuse to admit them and end up repeating them for, example Tim Connolly. For the record, I would take Gionta or Cammaleri on this team if the current make up of the team was different.
Eleven Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 The Habs didn't "panic." It just doesn't take some teams as much time to realize when things aren't working as long as it does the Sabres. All teams make mistakes. The Sabres problem isn't that they make mistakes, it's that they refuse to admot them and end repeating them for example Tim Connolly. For the record, I would take Gionta or Cammaleri on this team if the current make up of the team was different. It took two years for the Sabres to realize things weren't working out, and they let Briere and the Intangible walk. You were not happy with that if I remember correctly, but maybe I don't. The Sabres blew it up quickly enough--they're just rebuilding differently. Instead of overspending recklessly, they are trying to build from within. Not sure whether it will work, but the Sabres certainly realized what was NOT working, and that was Briere, Drury, Campbell, and the rest of the "leaders" that failed to inspire the team to play decent hockey down the stretch in 2007.
spndnchz Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Posted July 2, 2009 The Habs didn't "panic." It just doesn't take some teams as much time to realize when things aren't working as long as it does the Sabres. All teams make mistakes. The Sabres problem isn't that they make mistakes, it's that they refuse to admot them and end repeating them for example Tim Connolly. For the record, I would take Gionta or Cammaleri on this team if the current make up of the team was different. So you mean if we didn't have the same type/size of a playa already, we'd go after them? Those guys are now "old school" overpaid, undersized. What we seem to be trying to get away from.
spndnchz Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Posted July 2, 2009 Heatley meeting with Oilers personally. Jeez, do it already. Stop crying to your momma friends and sign you ______.
carpandean Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 Heatley meeting with Oilers personally. Jeez, do it already. Stop crying to your momma friends and sign you ______. Seriously. If you don't like it there after a year, you can always request another trade ...
spndnchz Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Posted July 2, 2009 Seriously. If you don't like it there after a year, you can always request another trade ... Did U hear about the letter from "a family friend" re:Mr heatley
X. Benedict Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 If your intent was to backup what Jack was saying, job well done. nfree pretty much posted most of what I was going to write before i just had a lightening surge... but Spacek and Gil are NOT better than Shneider and Komiserik And I don't think you would find too many people who think so.... Gainey could still sign Kovalev, and now I think he has to to make this work. Not a bad day....but it is hard to say he made the Habs better yet.
MDSabresFan1 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 It took two years for the Sabres to realize things weren't working out, and they let Briere and the Intangible walk. You were not happy with that if I remember correctly, but maybe I don't. The Sabres blew it up quickly enough--they're just rebuilding differently. Instead of overspending recklessly, they are trying to build from within. Not sure whether it will work, but the Sabres certainly realized what was NOT working, and that was Briere, Drury, Campbell, and the rest of the "leaders" that failed to inspire the team to play decent hockey down the stretch in 2007. Might be the dumbest thing anyone has said about anything ever.
deluca67 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 So you mean if we didn't have the same type/size of a playa already, we'd go after them? Those guys are now "old school" overpaid, undersized. What we seem to be trying to get away from. I am not against having smaller players on the roster. I am against the lack of balance the Sabres have on the roster. There is nothing worse than being small and soft.
spndnchz Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Posted July 2, 2009 True dat, like others have said, I still don't see the proof that the team works as a team. i.e. Hossa, Wings. For that matter Sabres. If they get together like 05, team, same page etc maybe, but I don't see it. I'd rather be a sad fan who's team didn't sign some big name, but had a TEAM.
SDS Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 There is nothing worse than being small and soft. that's what she said.
deluca67 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 It took two years for the Sabres to realize things weren't working out, and they let Briere and the Intangible walk. You were not happy with that if I remember correctly, but maybe I don't. The Sabres blew it up quickly enough--they're just rebuilding differently. Instead of overspending recklessly, they are trying to build from within. Not sure whether it will work, but the Sabres certainly realized what was NOT working, and that was Briere, Drury, Campbell, and the rest of the "leaders" that failed to inspire the team to play decent hockey down the stretch in 2007. Not to ruin your train of thought. I defended Regier when Briere and Drury left. Briere was a smart business move and I blame Drury for him being in New York. It's not about two years ago. It's about this current roster and about $16.5 million wasted on players easily replaced if not for their ridiculous contracts.
shrader Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 The funny thing about Montreal is that the one guy they kept was probably the most responsible for the collapse this year, Kovalev.
X. Benedict Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 Not to ruin your train of thought. I defended Regier when Briere and Drury left. Briere was a smart business move and I blame Drury for him being in New York. It's not about two years ago. It's about this current roster and about $16.5 million wasted on players easily replaced if not for their ridiculous contracts. That's not a crazy point of view at all.
spndnchz Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Posted July 2, 2009 Not to ruin your train of thought. I defended Regier when Briere and Drury left. Briere was a smart business move and I blame Drury for him being in New York. It's not about two years ago. It's about this current roster and about $16.5 million wasted on players easily replaced if not for their ridiculous contracts. Call'em out who's in ur 16.5 million waste bag? I'm closer to 20 mill.
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