Mbossy Posted June 24, 2009 Report Posted June 24, 2009 Seeing as threads are all over the place (yeah I'm relatively new, but) I figured like most things around here one long thread on subject is an easier read. We could post the picks here too? Will the Sabres take a "Kassian" if able? or the big d-man if able? or go for the Roy type player? Will Burke be able to trade up like he wants? (IMO, nope) Will Tavares go first? (IMHO, yup)
shrader Posted June 24, 2009 Report Posted June 24, 2009 It's going to be a best available pick. They really need to start rebuilding the offensive depth, but if they see what they think is a can't miss d-man on the board, I have no problem with making that pick. Any of the D currently in the system could be used as trade bait at any point, so get what you think is the best value.
wonderbread Posted June 24, 2009 Report Posted June 24, 2009 I say that take the best forward available. I can see them making a trade to get back in the second round as well. DR might not want to make any big FA splashes but he is no stranger to Draft day shenanagans.
deluca67 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Same old Sabres. They will draft whichever player falls to them and completely ignoring this teams desperate need for toughness and grit despite having many opportunities to address it.
Stoner Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Why talk about the need for offensive depth and toughness, current needs, when none of the players drafted will help now? Look into your crystal balls and see where the need will be in four or five years. :) I think that's why best available talent is the way to go.
Stoner Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 I'm just excited about the Sabres draft party at the Albright Knox. Inflatables AND crafts, two of things I keep busy with here at Darlingwood.
deluca67 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Why talk about the need for offensive depth and toughness, current needs, when none of the players drafted will help now? Look into your crystal balls and see where the need will be in four or five years. :) I think that's why best available talent is the way to go. I feel the Sabres need an identity. Part of which is drafting players who fit what you want your team to become. Is Brian Burke going to draft the most skilled player or is he going to draft players who fit his idea of what being a Toronto Maple Leaf will be about under his watch? Does Detroit draft the most talented available or do they find players that fit their system. You can't change a direction of a team and still draft using the same old failed theories. The proof is in the results. 5 out of 7 years without playoffs. Teams that draft well shouldn't go through such stretches.
X. Benedict Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Same old Sabres. They will draft whichever player falls to them and completely ignoring this teams desperate need for toughness and grit despite having many opportunities to address it. Premature espackulation.
deluca67 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Premature espackulation. Compared to another off-season of wishful thinking followed by a regular season mired in what could have been?
shrader Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 TSN's got a story up now, speculating what Tampa Bay will do. I love how that three ring circus put on by their ownership actually makes this a legitimate question. Let's see, a team with absolutely no defense picking second overall. It's a no-brainer, but I could see them screwing that up.
Stoner Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 I feel the Sabres need an identity. Part of which is drafting players who fit what you want your team to become. Is Brian Burke going to draft the most skilled player or is he going to draft players who fit his idea of what being a Toronto Maple Leaf will be about under his watch? Does Detroit draft the most talented available or do they find players that fit their system. You can't change a direction of a team and still draft using the same old failed theories. The proof is in the results. 5 out of 7 years without playoffs. Teams that draft well shouldn't go through such stretches. I think best available talent (that fits your system) is implied.
deluca67 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 TSN's got a story up now, speculating what Tampa Bay will do. I love how that three ring circus put on by their ownership actually makes this a legitimate question. Let's see, a team with absolutely no defense picking second overall. It's a no-brainer, but I could see them screwing that up. The Sabres have a lot of young defensemen. Maybe the Sabres could shock the world and pull off a trade to move up. :thumbsup:
shrader Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 The Sabres have a lot of young defensemen. Maybe the Sabres could shock the world and pull off a trade to move up. :thumbsup: I can't see us having the value it would take to make that move. But then again, I'm also not so sure that Tampa has any idea what they're doing.
X. Benedict Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Compared to another off-season of wishful thinking followed by a regular season mired in what could have been? You could always wait to accuse them of drafting badly, after they actually draft badly. :beer:
Mbossy Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Posted June 25, 2009 Burke had made some comments about possibly moving down in the draft if his guy is still available when he picks. That way he gets some leverage for trades. Should be fun to watch.
Mbossy Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Posted June 25, 2009 I'm just excited about the Sabres draft party at the Albright Knox. Inflatables AND crafts, two of things I keep busy with here at Darlingwood. But how often do you hear "free parking" and Sabres in the same sentence?
nobody Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 The Darren Drager chat over at tsn.ca has mention of Zack Kassian. Chris Martel in Montreal: Hi Darren, do you think Phil Kessel will be back in Beantown next season, or will Boston use him to move up in the draft? I hear that they're looking at Zack Kassian! Darren Dreger: Chris, Kassian's name has been brought up a lot in Montreal. Boston has options and I believe in the right scenario Peter Chiarelli would consider trading Phil Kessel. As you know, in a salary cap system, you can?t keep everyone. The recent signing of David Krecji provided an indication that Kessel may be the odd man out. Kessel will fetch good return and I?m sure Chiarelli will get some offers in Montreal.
nobody Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Other interesting items over at tsn.ca: The Florida Panthers are closing in on dealing star defenceman Jay Bouwmeester's negotiating rights. The Toronto Maple Leafs have received what the team considers to be a significant offer for defenceman Tomas Kaberle.
FogBat Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 I feel the Sabres need an identity. Part of which is drafting players who fit what you want your team to become. Is Brian Burke going to draft the most skilled player or is he going to draft players who fit his idea of what being a Toronto Maple Leaf will be about under his watch? Does Detroit draft the most talented available or do they find players that fit their system. You can't change a direction of a team and still draft using the same old failed theories. The proof is in the results. 5 out of 7 years without playoffs. Teams that draft well shouldn't go through such stretches. In theory, yes. But, hey. We're talking about the Sabres Front Office as opposed to teams that are less than 400 miles away who have actually done something to bring home the Cup.
wonderbread Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 You could always wait to accuse them of drafting badly, after they actually draft badly. :beer: But this could take years before we know. Besides its always more fun to bitch and moan on complaint Thursday! :thumbsup:
Eleven Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 But how often do you hear "free parking" and Sabres in the same sentence? Kidding aside, and I know you were responding to PA, I really think it's a brilliant move to have the draft party at the Albright-Knox. It's cross-selling; let the arty folks experience something about hockey, and let the hockey folks see the world-class modern art gallery (the gallery isn't modern; the art is). I'm not able to go, but that's going to be a fun event in a great atmosphere.
Two or less Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 My dream pick remains Zach Kassian. I really hope we can land this kid somehow with the 13th. If he's gone before, i really want Dimitri Kulikov. Strong d-men, can hit, great skater. Maybe the best skater in this draft. High hockey IQ.
X. Benedict Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 My dream pick remains Zach Kassian. I really hope we can land this kid somehow with the 13th. If he's gone before, i really want Dimitri Kulikov. Strong d-men, can hit, great skater. Maybe the best skater in this draft. High hockey IQ. If Kulikov is still available at 13 I think it would be mad not to take him. He'll be playing in the NHL 2 years before Kassian.
R_Dudley Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 I say that take the best forward available. I can see them making a trade to get back in the second round as well. DR might not want to make any big FA splashes but he is no stranger to Draft day shenanagans. Why talk about the need for offensive depth and toughness, current needs, when none of the players drafted will help now? Look into your crystal balls and see where the need will be in four or five years. :) I think that's why best available talent is the way to go. Agree with the 2 above on best available. The teams that win SC's and current FO has made it clear that the draft is the way to go to build your team so is there really any other choice. Question is as posed in Draft History thread by That Aud smell are we able to pick the best early ?
nobody Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 The Darren Drager chat over at tsn.ca has mention of Zack Kassian. Chris Martel in Montreal: Hi Darren, do you think Phil Kessel will be back in Beantown next season, or will Boston use him to move up in the draft? I hear that they're looking at Zack Kassian! Darren Dreger: Chris, Kassian's name has been brought up a lot in Montreal. Boston has options and I believe in the right scenario Peter Chiarelli would consider trading Phil Kessel. As you know, in a salary cap system, you can?t keep everyone. The recent signing of David Krecji provided an indication that Kessel may be the odd man out. Kessel will fetch good return and I?m sure Chiarelli will get some offers in Montreal. So to continue with this idea: BRUINS OFFER KESSEL TO LEAFS FOR KABERLE AND NO. 7 PICK Then do the Bruins use that 7th pick to pick Kassian or do they use that 7th and their 25th to move up further in the draft. Or do they actually have to include their 25th pick in the trade to Toronto? What would the Sabres have to give up to get Kessel?
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