deluca67 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 The fact that Regier and Quinn couldn't recognize what a warrior this guy is pretty much explains why the Sabres are where they are and why there is little hope for any significant change under the status quo. A huge difference between the Pens and Sabres is at the top. The Pens have Super Mario as team president. The Sabres have Larry Quinn. Quinn's only qualification for his job is that he had TG's phone number.
shrader Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 You point out a big difference without mention some random guys named Malkin and Crosby. Typical.
jimiVbaby Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 The fact that Regier and Quinn couldn't recognize what a warrior this guy is pretty much explains why the Sabres are where they are and why there is little hope for any significant change under the status quo. A huge difference between the Pens and Sabres is at the top. The Pens have Super Mario as team president. The Sabres have Larry Quinn. Quinn's only qualification for his job is that he had TG's phone number. The dude really seems to step it up when it matters most. Just remember, the free agent market = a fools market. :thumbsup:
Stoner Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 The Pens' president is David Morehouse. Mario is co-owner and chairman. Point taken though.
deluca67 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Posted June 13, 2009 You point out a big difference without mention some random guys named Malkin and Crosby. Typical. Drafting well and building a team around them is another huge difference between the two teams. Malkin plays like he has a set of ballz which would pretty much remove him from any Sabres draft board.
carpandean Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Drafting well and building a team around them is another huge difference between the two teams. Malkin plays like he has a set of ballz which would pretty much remove him from any Sabres draft board. How hard is it to draft well when you get five or six straight picks in the top 5, including several #1's and #2's? Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury, etc. I'm not saying that they don't have a better organization, but saying that they draft well is just silly.
spndnchz Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 How hard is it to draft well when you get five or six straight picks in the top 5, including several #1's and #2's? Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury, etc. I'm not saying that they don't have a better organization, but saying that they draft well is just silly. :thumbsup: Being 9-12 sucks.
deluca67 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Posted June 13, 2009 How hard is it to draft well when you get five or six straight picks in the top 5, including several #1's and #2's? Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury, etc. I'm not saying that they don't have a better organization, but saying that they draft well is just silly. The Lions in the NFL pick at the top all the time. It's not that easy. There have been plenty of top pick busts over the years in the NHL.
shrader Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Drafting well and building a team around them is another huge difference between the two teams. Malkin plays like he has a set of ballz which would pretty much remove him from any Sabres draft board. Yeah, Malkin was rated head and shoulders above all but one guy in that draft, so Buffalo never would've picked them if they had the 2nd pick. :rolleyes: Pittsburgh lucked their way into this by sucking at the right time. It's easy to build around Malkin-Crosby, especially this year with Malkin in the last season of his entry level deal. And yes, I'm expecting people to say that they went out and held onto their two best players unlike Buffalo. But that's a bunch of BS. These are two elite players that anyone in the league would've done the same to keep. You break the bank for the truely elite. Briere-Drury are no Malkin-Crosby. Only one team in the modern era can even claim to have a similar situation, and those two players just happen to be the top two scorers in NHL history.
deluca67 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Posted June 13, 2009 The Pens' president is David Morehouse. Mario is co-owner and chairman. Point taken though. My bad. NBC showed Mario and had him listed as team President which got me thinking about where the Sabres are. I looked hard at the two teams and the organizations during these Finals. The Sabres are nowhere near the level they need to be to seriously compete. The Sabres might as well be an expansion team compared to those two teams.
deluca67 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Posted June 13, 2009 Yeah, Malkin was rated head and shoulders above all but one guy in that draft, so Buffalo never would've picked them if they had the 2nd pick. :rolleyes: Pittsburgh lucked their way into this by sucking at the right time. It's easy to build around Malkin-Crosby, especially this year with Malkin in the last season of his entry level deal. And yes, I'm expecting people to say that they went out and held onto their two best players unlike Buffalo. But that's a bunch of BS. These are two elite players that anyone in the league would've done the same to keep. You break the bank for the truely elite. Briere-Drury are no Malkin-Crosby. Only one team in the modern era can even claim to have a similar situation, and those two players just happen to be the top two scorers in NHL history. I would guess the Sabres would have drafted which ever 5' 9" forward that was available at the time.
Stoner Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Yeah, Malkin was rated head and shoulders above all but one guy in that draft, so Buffalo never would've picked them if they had the 2nd pick. :rolleyes: Pittsburgh lucked their way into this by sucking at the right time. It's easy to build around Malkin-Crosby, especially this year with Malkin in the last season of his entry level deal. And yes, I'm expecting people to say that they went out and held onto their two best players unlike Buffalo. But that's a bunch of BS. These are two elite players that anyone in the league would've done the same to keep. You break the bank for the truely elite. Briere-Drury are no Malkin-Crosby. Only one team in the modern era can even claim to have a similar situation, and those two players just happen to be the top two scorers in NHL history. OK, the Sabres would have drafted them. The key question becomes which one would Lindy have personally molded into the top defensive forward in the game?
deluca67 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Posted June 13, 2009 OK, the Sabres would have drafted them. The key question becomes which one would Lindy have personally molded into the top defensive forward in the game? Or, which one would have been injured down the stretch when they were hit with a cheap shot because this current team doesn't protect their own. :censored:
shrader Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Or, which one would have been injured down the stretch when they were hit with a cheap shot because this current team doesn't protect their own. :censored: Kind of like Crosby being injured tonight without anyone backing him up?
deluca67 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Posted June 13, 2009 Kind of like Crosby being injured tonight without anyone backing him up? Was is a result of a cheap shot? Injuries happen in intense battles like tonight. That is much different than Scot Gomez acting like Johnny Lawrence and treating Miller like Danny Larusso by "sweeping the leg."
shrader Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Was is a result of a cheap shot? Injuries happen in intense battles like tonight. That is much different than Scot Gomez acting like Johnny Lawrence and treating Miller like Danny Larusso by "sweeping the leg." Yeah, and injuries happen. They could get injured down the stretch in Buffalo just like they could in Pittsburgh. I think it's ridiculous to even think about, but if they had somehow landed either guy, things would have been very different.
nfreeman Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Good points all around, but DeLuca is absolutely right that the Sabres should've cleared some salaries and gone after Orpik or someone like him last summer.
wonderbread Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Brooks had runaway bride eyes tonight!!!
shrader Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Good points all around, but DeLuca is absolutely right that the Sabres should've cleared some salaries and gone after Orpik or someone like him last summer. I understand the thought, but I still think there were other places they needed to fix before that one.
Two or less Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Drafting well and building a team around them is another huge difference between the two teams. Malkin plays like he has a set of ballz which would pretty much remove him from any Sabres draft board. If Sabres had as many high picks as Pittsburgh (Fleury 1st overall), Staal (2nd overall), Crosby (1st overall) and Malkin (2nd overall) we'd be winners too.
shrader Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 If Sabres had as many high picks as Pittsburgh (Fleury 1st overall), Staal (2nd overall), Crosby (1st overall) and Malkin (2nd overall) we'd be winners too. This one got me curious, so I took a look at that 2006 draft. That top 5 is looking really good if Erik Johnson can bounce back from the knee injury. Obviously I'll take their final outcome, but Pittsburgh may have gotten the worst out of that group.
Two or less Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 This one got me curious, so I took a look at that 2006 draft. That top 5 is looking really good if Erik Johnson can bounce back from the knee injury. Obviously I'll take their final outcome, but Pittsburgh may have gotten the worst out of that group. Pittsburgh has made a lot of errors in their way to winning the cup, but, they have Crosby and Malkin to take care of those problems. Like Ryan Whitney (5th overall).
shrader Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Pittsburgh has made a lot of errors in their way to winning the cup, but, they have Crosby and Malkin to take care of those problems. Like Ryan Whitney (5th overall). Yeah, I'm slightly biased, but I have no problem with the Whitney pick. He was going to be taken there regardless of the team. I also think his time with Niedermeyer and Pronger (no matter how brief it is) is really gong to pay off. And I can think of much bigger failures, like say, their return on the Jagr deal.
Stoner Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 If Sabres had as many high picks as Pittsburgh (Fleury 1st overall), Staal (2nd overall), Crosby (1st overall) and Malkin (2nd overall) we'd be winners too. With Ruff putting out four forwards on a power play late in a game, with the lead? Sure...
Stoner Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 My bad. NBC showed Mario and had him listed as team President which got me thinking about where the Sabres are. I looked hard at the two teams and the organizations during these Finals. The Sabres are nowhere near the level they need to be to seriously compete. The Sabres might as well be an expansion team compared to those two teams. No reason to say my bad. You'd have to compare the duties and responsibilities and power of LQ vs. ML. This Morehouse dude sounds like more of a suit on the business side. Marketing, communications and the like.
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