tom webster Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 Gotta love Darche's comment about their better players and our better players.
LabattBlue Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 It was really disappointing to read that Portland could only score 1 goal in each of the last 4 games. :( It appears the only bright spot was Enroth.
carpandean Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 Gotta love Darche's comment about their better players and our better players. I might ... if I had any idea what he said (nothing in Wildcat's report or in the articles on PortlandPirates.com) Care to share?
tom webster Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Posted April 25, 2009 http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=252834 Sorry...
cilevel Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 It was really disappointing to read that Portland could only score 1 goal in each of the last 4 games. :( It appears the only bright spot was Enroth. I think some of that had to do with Rask, who apparently played lights out. Atleast our young guys got some taste of playoff hockey (stretching it, but trying to pull out any optimism I can).
carpandean Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 I think some of that had to do with Rask, who apparently played lights out. Atleast our young guys got some taste of playoff hockey (stretching it, but trying to pull out any optimism I can). He stopped all 17 of Gerbe's shots (lead the Pirates by 3 shots.)
Stoner Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 I won't even bother to do any research on Enroth's play, beyond what I just read. I merely offer this question in order to stimulate the SabreSpace economy and of course to agitate: If the Sabres won't contend next year, if there's a "rebuilding" effort afoot, do the Sabres trade Ryan Miller this offseason while his value is its highest, or near its highest? For some really good stuff... In two years, you still have a lot of your young core that went to a couple of ECF (Vanek, Roy, Pominville, Gaustad, Connolly), the good stuff you got for Miller (insert name of whatever top notch player or players you feel the Sabres need) and the next wave of kids ready to be the new core (Kaleta, Butler, Sekera, Gerbe, Kennedy, Myers etc.), with the wild cards of Stafford, Paille, MacArthur tossed in there. Can Enroth or someone else make this team a contender?
Chief Enabler Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 I won't even bother to do any research on Enroth's play, beyond what I just read. I merely offer this question in order to stimulate the SabreSpace economy and of course to agitate: Speaking of which, where has BM been? I think he needs a bailout.
PotentPowerPlay22 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 It was really disappointing to read that Portland could only score 1 goal in each of the last 4 games. :( It appears the only bright spot was Enroth. The Pirates found out exactly what the Sabres found out: small finesse players are out of style in the playoffs. Teams need grit,size and determination in the playoffs. Most of the game is played along the boards and the Sabres organization is deficient in tough, good sized, gritty players. Did anybody notice Gerbe and Kennedy and Zagrapan were shut down completely by the bigger, tougher Bruins? Darcy Regier has built a team that is not tough enough or big enough!! If you watch the teams left in the NHL playoffs you will notice that they are very tough,big, and aggressive. The Sabres would be great in a "no checking" or "no hitting" league. Too bad for the Sabres the NHL rewards toughness.
cilevel Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 The Pirates found out exactly what the Sabres found out: small finesse players are out of style in the playoffs. Teams need grit,size and determination in the playoffs. Most of the game is played along the boards and the Sabres organization is deficient in tough, good sized, gritty players. Did anybody notice Gerbe and Kennedy and Zagrapan were shut down completely by the bigger, tougher Bruins? Darcy Regier has built a team that is not tough enough or big enough!! If you watch the teams left in the NHL playoffs you will notice that they are very tough,big, and aggressive. The Sabres would be great in a "no checking" or "no hitting" league. Too bad for the Sabres the NHL rewards toughness. Although there are a couple of smaller players on some of those teams (Calgary, Chicago, NJ come to mind), they are surrounded by guys who bring a size element. That helps the grit and will within the small, skilled players to surface. I don't think the team has to be all huge (see San Jose and their track record) but the right mix is essential. Darcy has his work cut out for him.
cilevel Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 I won't even bother to do any research on Enroth's play, beyond what I just read. I merely offer this question in order to stimulate the SabreSpace economy and of course to agitate: If the Sabres won't contend next year, if there's a "rebuilding" effort afoot, do the Sabres trade Ryan Miller this offseason while his value is its highest, or near its highest? For some really good stuff... In two years, you still have a lot of your young core that went to a couple of ECF (Vanek, Roy, Pominville, Gaustad, Connolly), the good stuff you got for Miller (insert name of whatever top notch player or players you feel the Sabres need) and the next wave of kids ready to be the new core (Kaleta, Butler, Sekera, Gerbe, Kennedy, Myers etc.), with the wild cards of Stafford, Paille, MacArthur tossed in there. Can Enroth or someone else make this team a contender? My only question with this is doe Miller have a no trade clause? I think it kicks in with his new contract. EDIT: Ryan Miller, BUF - NMC/NTC [can provide a list of 8 teams to which he will not accept a trade to] From: http://www.nhlscap.com/no_trade.htm
shrader Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 It's obviously not the same thing, but both guys showed up big time in NCAA tourneys. Yeah, it's only 4 games plus the conference tourneys, but it's far too early to judge thiese guys based off of one AHL playoff series.
Stoner Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 My only question with this is doe Miller have a no trade clause? I think it kicks in with his new contract. EDIT: Ryan Miller, BUF - NMC/NTC [can provide a list of 8 teams to which he will not accept a trade to] From: http://www.nhlscap.com/no_trade.htm Interesting. I guess when you're one of the elites, you can force such things into a contract. Here BM, here BM... Come here boy, that's a boy, don't be skeered...
tasker48b Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 Flyers are hopping ... up 2-0 with two quick goals at the end of the first .... the Giroux kid has been all over the ice and very effective (2 goals in the first 5 games of the series and one today). edited: Giroux got an assist on the Flyers second goal, not a goal. Oops.
carpandean Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 Flyers are hopping ... up 2-0 with two quick goals at the end of the first .... the Giroux kid has been all over the ice and very effective (2 goals in the first 5 games of the series and one today). edited: Giroux got an assist on the Flyers second goal, not a goal. Oops. Wrong thread? Perhaps, you were looking for the playoffs one?
RR61 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Posted April 26, 2009 Before we dump all over the Pirates, remember that Rask is dams good and shut out the NY Rangers in the start he made for Boston this year. He will be backing up Tim Thomas next year and Manny Fernandez will not be re-signed. However, if Portland was outworked by Providence as Darche implies, then there is no excuse for that.
Two or less Posted April 26, 2009 Report Posted April 26, 2009 I think some of that had to do with Rask, who apparently played lights out. Atleast our young guys got some taste of playoff hockey (stretching it, but trying to pull out any optimism I can). I agree with you. Rask played out of his mind from all i've heard. When a goalie gets hot in the AHL or NHL, it's usually tough to win. But in the ahl, when many of the players are low quality players, Rask getting hot really hurt the Pirates. This is Rask's second season in Providence and has little NHL experience and is a top prospect in the Bruins organization.
X. Benedict Posted April 26, 2009 Report Posted April 26, 2009 I agree with you. Rask played out of his mind from all i've heard. When a goalie gets hot in the AHL or NHL, it's usually tough to win. But in the ahl, when many of the players are low quality players, Rask getting hot really hurt the Pirates. This is Rask's second season in Providence and has little NHL experience and is a top prospect in the Bruins organization. Whenever a goaltender stops .959, it's going to be tough to win.
shrader Posted April 26, 2009 Report Posted April 26, 2009 Whenever a goaltender stops .959, it's going to be tough to win. Take more shots. :thumbsup:
nfreeman Posted April 27, 2009 Report Posted April 27, 2009 Here BM, here BM... Come here boy, that's a boy, don't be skeered... ...overheard last night outside an outhouse in the hills of Pennsylvania.
cilevel Posted April 27, 2009 Report Posted April 27, 2009 I agree with you. Rask played out of his mind from all i've heard. When a goalie gets hot in the AHL or NHL, it's usually tough to win. But in the ahl, when many of the players are low quality players, Rask getting hot really hurt the Pirates. This is Rask's second season in Providence and has little NHL experience and is a top prospect in the Bruins organization. Good point. It is also likely that this is Rask's last year in the AHL and he will be with the Big B's next season behind Thomas.
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