bob_sauve28 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 What's Tommy G think about this? It's over. Do you fire both Ruff and Regier or only one and which one? Where do they go from here? Sign a big off season free agent and build around them? Or is the salary cap already filled up?
RayFinkle Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 When your franchise goaltender goes down, everybody gets a free pass.
sabresnutinphoenix Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 When your franchise goaltender goes down, everybody gets a free pass. I hope not..if that's the case...you need better talent..
bob_sauve28 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 When your franchise goaltender goes down, everybody gets a free pass. I disagree with that
Bmwolf21 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 When your franchise goaltender goes down, everybody gets a free pass. Not if they miss the playoffs for the second straight year and fifth time in the last seven.
Stoner Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 When your franchise goaltender goes down, everybody gets a free pass. Goaltending hasn't been the biggest factor in the collapse. It has to be both. This franchise is begging for both.
bob_sauve28 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 Not if they miss the playoffs for the second straight year and fifth time in the last seven. Something has to change
bob_sauve28 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 Goaltending hasn't been the biggest factor in the collapse. It has to be both. This franchise is begging for both. After the loss to the--I think--Islanders, Ruff didn't come out for post game interview and sent out James Patrick instead. That seemed strange to me. I think he almost wants to be fired
Bmwolf21 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Goaltending hasn't been the biggest factor in the collapse. It has to be both. This franchise is begging for both. I'd say that Regier gets the axe first, but at some point the media is going to start chirping about Lindy. Something has to change Agreed.
sabresnutinphoenix Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 After the loss to the--I think--Islanders, Ruff didn't come out for post game interview and sent out James Patrick instead. That seemed strange to me. I think he almost wants to be fired That should get him fired.....
tom webster Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 What's Tommy G think about this? It's over. Do you fire both Ruff and Regier or only one and which one? Where do they go from here? Sign a big off season free agent and build around them? Or is the salary cap already filled up? They will have no cap room unless they move someone. As for Reiger or Ruff, ask yourself, does Lindy have the right players? If no then the answer is both because a new GM will want his own coach. If you think they have the right players, you fire the coach. By the way, the season isn't over. They can turn it around in an instant.
bob_sauve28 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 I'd say that Regier gets the axe first, but at some point the media is going to start chirping about Lindy.Agreed. I think Ruff is burned out or something, And I don't think Regier will be missed. Not sure how I feel about his Regier's overall job. Such a long history to think back through, all the way back to Peca and Hasek.
bob_sauve28 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 They will have no cap room unless they move someone. As for Reiger or Ruff, ask yourself, does Lindy have the right players? If no then the answer is both because a new GM will want his own coach. If you think they have the right players, you fire the coach. By the way, the season isn't over. They can turn it around in an instant. They would have to play like they did to start the season, I guess. I guess that could happen
Claude Balls Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Come on, fire Reiger??? Just look at all the difference makers he has brought in at the trade deadline in his years. Then throw in all the big name free agents he gets in here during the off season. But in all reality, Tom G is completely clueless when it comes to hockey and LQ whispering sweet nothings into his ear is all he has to go by. This organization is completely dysfunctional from top to bottom.
frisky Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 I bet you absolutely nothing changes. Both will be here. We will not do much this offseason. But, we will be a lot younger next year I bet. And, next year's excuse will be that we have lots of young players that we need to wait to develop. It's an endless carousel of losing. Year after year.
Bmwolf21 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 They will have no cap room unless they move someone. As for Reiger or Ruff, ask yourself, does Lindy have the right players? If no then the answer is both because a new GM will want his own coach. If you think they have the right players, you fire the coach. By the way, the season isn't over. They can turn it around in an instant. Possibly, but not necessarily. I think Ruff is burned out or something, And I don't think Regier will be missed. Not sure how I feel about his Regier's overall job. Such a long history to think back through, all the way back to Peca and Hasek. I just don't know where to point the finger anymore. (Although I had one pointing at the TV screen somewhere around the 4th goal...) An argument can be made that Regier was pretty good pre-cap, and he usually does get the best of a trade, even if he has to wait until the cows come home before making the deal. Is it higher up than DR? Is LQ or TG meddling? I don't know.
bob_sauve28 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 Come on, fire Reiger??? Just look at all the difference makers he has brought in at the trade deadline in his years. Then throw in all the big name free agents he gets in here during the off season. But in all reality, Tom G is completely clueless when it comes to hockey and LQ whispering sweet nothings into his ear is all he has to go by. This organization is completely dysfunctional from top to bottom. I hope that's not true but I can't argue that its not
val james Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 I think Ruff is burned out or something, And I don't think Regier will be missed. Not sure how I feel about his Regier's overall job. Such a long history to think back through, all the way back to Peca and Hasek. I agree, I think Lindy has seen enough . He may walk. A change of scenery might do him good.
kingcongkorab Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 I bet you absolutely nothing changes. Both will be here. We will not do much this offseason. But, we will be a lot younger next year I bet. And, next year's excuse will be that we have lots of young players that we need to wait to develop. It's an endless carousel of losing. Year after year. What was so sad was how disinterested they looked tonight. I am a big Ruff fan but I just don't know anymore. These guys are way too comfortable.
Eric in Akron Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 I said to the wife during the game that I think there needs to be a change of scenery. I think Lindy is a good coach but I don't think this team is responding anymore. I think they need a new coach and I've always felt that DR (Niles) needed to go. Too bad we can't get rid of LQ, I just look at him and there's is just something that screams inside of me not to trust a word the guy says (like a smiling cobra).
bob_sauve28 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 Possibly, but not necessarily. I just don't know where to point the finger anymore. (Although I had one pointing at the TV screen somewhere around the 4th goal...) An argument can be made that Regier was pretty good pre-cap, and he usually does get the best of a trade, even if he has to wait until the cows come home before making the deal. Is it higher up than DR? Is LQ or TG meddling? I don't know. If Darcy does get fired, I bet we will have a long thread discussing this strange guy that has run our team for so long. I get the feeling TG doesn't meddle at all. That's just a feeling
val james Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Lindy is running out of ideas and steam with this group.
SabresFan526 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 This has been an extremely frustrating year. This team just doesn't have the talent to be much more than a middle of the road team. The Sabres have one superstar in Vanek, and then the rest of the team consists of serviceable second liners. Stafford, Connolly, and Roy are all second line players but not elite stars in the NHL. There's just not enough talent on this team and guys like Pominville and Hecht have been humongous disappointments this year. Can they turn it around? I guess they could, but they've been absolutely awful this year. And, while I guess Pominville can be a serviceable second line player as he has proven to be in the past, Hecht is nothing more than a third line grinder and his stats have been padded by playing with Briere and a very talented team in the past, but he's showing what he really is and that's just a defensive checking line player and not much more. I don't think you can be a playoff team with a bunch of second, third, and fourth line players and hope that they overachieve. The same could be said for the blueline as far as I'm concerned. They have 3 sets of second/third pair defenseman on the team, but there is no top pairing defenseman on this team at all. This team does not have a Chara, Pronger, Niedermeyer, or any top pairing defenseman. I know Campbell was here, but I would not consider him a top pairing defenseman as he's just not good defensively at all. Similarly, you can't have a bunch of second and third tier defenseman and hope that they overachieve. Miller is a top 10 goalie, but he's not good enough to compensate for the lack of talent around him. This team just doesn't have enough talent and until they assemble some talent, this is a very mediocre team.
val james Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Whose fault is it that there in not enough talent? Has the game changed that much in three years.
Stoner Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 I'm sorry. There's more than enough talent on this team to at least make the playoffs. That's not asking much.
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