FogBat Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I don't know.............I'm not convinced Philly is much better than the Sabres. The Lydman penalty lost the game. Agreed. ( <_< on the Lydman penalty)
ThePebble19 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I don't know.............I'm not convinced Philly is much better than the Sabres. The Lydman penalty lost the game. I don't know that it "lost" the game, but it certainly didn't help. They were way too inconsistant tonight. They had 2 or 3 HUGE mental lapses, and it cost them....not getting the puck out of the zone on the 2nd goal, the shorty...killers. But again, we were tied going into the third, and it looked like the gameplan was to play just hard enough to let time tick off the clock, and play for the point. I am so sick and tired of watching this team play every third period like they have a 6 goal lead...dump and change, dump and change...
carpandean Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Well, if this game was "huge" and a "statement" like they were saying in the pre-game interviews then I think it was a huge statement in how interested they are in hitting the greens as early as possible. Yeah, have to disagree, too. That was a good, hard fought game. I thought the Sabres, until they pulled Miller, were the better team in the third period. Could have gone either way.
jimiVbaby Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I'm going to add Mike Richards to my hockey man crush list. Others include Alex Ovechkin (of course), Jarome Iginla and Dustin Brown.
... Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I don't know.............I'm not convinced Philly is much better than the Sabres. The Lydman penalty lost the game. Philly was not good tonight. The Sabres were not playing like this game was huge, and were definitely not trying to make a "statement" that the fans would appreciate. If they were, then they would have been all over Philly's comedy like they were Toronto's. I thought Philly was playing crappy enough that a "determined" Sabres team would have been all over them. "Boards don't hit back."
LabattBlue Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 The blueliners as a group continue to be way too soft, but the team defense has been killing this team for two years now. It's the same stupid over and over again with guys making bonehead plays with the puck and players not taking care of assignments in their own end. Bringing in a another veteran defensive defenseman would help(not that I think DR will do this), but without the commitment to team defense, you will continue to see more of the same.
FogBat Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I dont think the marginal of difference between the sabres,and the top teams in the east could be any clearer than is it after this loss. We were never ahead the entire game. We were never totally outplayed. We were just there. Thats the story with this team. And it has been for almost 2 sesaons now. Unless Regier realizes 2 things... 1.) We're not good enough defensivly to shut teams down. and 2.) Were not talented enough offensive to outscore teams. ..And then decides to make some changes. This is what were going to have to live with. Its a mediocre team,that is good enough to hang around and snag a 6th(at the highest) to 8th seed slot. I'm disgusted on so many levels. 2 consecutive ECF'S to this garbage. :wallbash: That 1st trip to the ECF should have resulted in a trip to the SCF. Oilers still wouldn't have stood a chance. For once, I - along with every other Sabres fan out there - would love to see our boys prove Mick Kern of NHL Home Ice wrong. He once made the remark that if none of the teams change franchise locations over the next 300 years, the Sabres would still be without a cup. :wallbash:
FearTheReaper Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 That 1st trip to the ECF should have resulted in a trip to the SCF. Oilers still wouldn't have stood a chance. For once, I - along with every other Sabres fan out there - would love to see our boys prove Mick Kern of NHL Home Ice wrong. He once made the remark that if none of the teams change franchise locations over the next 300 years, the Sabres would still be without a cup. :wallbash: If we only had Mc Kee in game 7. Only Mc Kee,let alone Teppo,Tallinder & Kalinin. Its unbelivable,that with 2 minor league d men,we were ahead by 1 going into the third. You factor in the pin ball goal by the canes,and Brinda'mours offside fiasco,and it becomes a topic that should be on ripleys believe it or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI-4ZZ3ziL4
SabresFan526 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I don't know. I thought the Sabres played really well in the second. The Lydman penalty, followed by Hecht skating past Knuble on the doorstep instead of taking him out on the game winning goal lost the game for the Sabres. Seriously, what was Hecht thinking? I'd be willing to let a perimeter shot get through so long as the guy standing in the crease is covered, even if it's by a forward. We still have two more games against the Flyers, so I think we can get them back, and I thought the Sabres played it pretty close. I do think that Kaleta should have played instead of Peters. The PP clicked and got two goals tonight and with Kaleta in the game, the Sabres definitely would have gotten at least another 2 more PP opportunities. Again, I must ask where has the PK gone? They gave up yet another PP goal tonight. They are consistently giving up a PP goal against just about every single game. How can the Sabres manage to win any games if they continue to give up PP goals and not kill off penalties? Either don't commit penalties, or kill them off when you do. This was supposedly the team that killed off something like 21 straight earlier this year, and now they can't kill off a penalty to save their life. What has happened? The Sabres need Arniel back, that is apparent. Unfortunately, he won't come back, so they need to find another special teams coach soon.
carpandean Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 The East just got a little tighter. Carolina and Penguins won, the Sabres, Canadiens and Panthers all lost in regulation.
cilevel Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I dont think the marginal of difference between the sabres,and the top teams in the east could be any clearer than it is after this loss. We were never ahead the entire game. We were never totally outplayed. We were just there. Thats the story with this team. And it has been for almost 2 sesaons now. Unless Regier realizes 2 things... 1.) We're not good enough defensivly to shut teams down. and 2.) Were not talented enough offensive to outscore teams. ..And then decides to make some changes. This is what were going to have to live with. Its a mediocre team,that is good enough to hang around and snag a 6th(at the highest) to 8th seed slot. I'm disgusted on so many levels. 2 consecutive ECF'S to this garbage. :wallbash: All in all the Flyers looked much more like a cohesive unit all the way around and didn't have any glaring breakdowns like we did. Sabres are close, but they still have work to do and that much is obvious. The teams that are ahead of us or considered to be "better" are simply more consistent and the errors aren't as huge.
carpandean Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 All in all the Flyers looked much more like a cohesive unit all the way around and didn't have any glaring breakdowns like we did. Sabres are close, but they still have work to do and that much is obvious. The teams that are ahead of us or considered to be "better" are simply more consistent and the errors aren't as huge. Don't worry, the Flyers will get Briere back (for his whopping 10th game of the season) and all that will change. ;)
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 The East just got a little tighter. Carolina and Penguins won, the Sabres, Canadiens and Panthers all lost in regulation. We needed this one tonight kept us moving up and keep space. However this team needs better D play to go anywhere, Teppo is starting to look old and making mistakes, maybe toni is rubbing off on him. :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:
ThePebble19 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 All in all the Flyers looked much more like a cohesive unit all the way around and didn't have any glaring breakdowns like we did. Sabres are close, but they still have work to do and that much is obvious. The teams that are ahead of us or considered to be "better" are simply more consistent and the errors aren't as huge. Agreed. I still think our lack of consistancy comes from not even having one consistant line that plays together night in and night out for 60 minutes a game. Players are moved in and out of the lineup, seemingly at random, and some of the line choices are painful. Gaustad at wing tonight, scratching Kaleta for Peters... Playing Peters is completely ineffective to begin with. Not only does he not play more than 3 shifts a game, he completely handicaps the rest of the team by forcing other players to fill in his position on his line because he is too much of a liability to be out there all the time. Yet we will play him and scratch Kaleta who single-handedly seems to draw 2-3 penalties a game. And what the hell has Clarke MacArthur done lately to warrant playing him every night? Not a damn thing. We've had a ton of injuries, and that contributes to the line jumbling, but even when they get something that works, they split it up.
tulax Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Just got back from the game, pretty depressing loss witnessed by a rather large sabres fan contingent. A few points on the game: 1) Slow start, once again, to this game. Considering the Sabres are fighting to move up, I would have thought they'd at least try to take advantage of a Philadelphia team that seemed to be feeling out the opponent. 2) The shift which contributed to the Flyers second goal was a killer. Once again not getting out of their own zone kills them. Hecht is playing some really irresponsible hockey. He started to push toward the net on offense after that play, but once again he was a non-factor up until this shift. By the way, the Flyers and the local media are already calling that the best shift they've had this year. 3) Good to see Spacek show up with a couple goals and pounce on a clearly shaky Biron in the second. 4) Interesting to see Ruff really shake up the defensive pairs. I saw the usual (Butler-Rivet, Numminen-Sekera, Spacek-Lydman) and also Numminen get paired with Butler, Rivet get paired with Sekera. There could have been more. I thought this was due to Sekera playing a low quality game and also Numminen being ineffective. After seeing Numminen get beat out for pucks several times, this guy has to call it a career after this year. He does not have what it takes to play at this level anymore. 5)Maybe it really wouldn't matter, but why play Peters instead of Kaleta? I understand that Philadelphia and Buffalo have fighting pasts, but the Sabres are in a playoff race. The way Buffalo was taking advantage of some power plays it would have been nice to have Kaleta banging into some guys and drawing penalties. I think I saw Peters play 2 shifts (2:28 actually), certainly none with Flyers resident goon: Riley Cote. 6)Miller was pretty good tonight, made a lot of crucial stops. Overall, 2 points were definitely possible in this game. For as well as the Sabres played in the second, it was dumb mistakes and turnovers that led to Flyers goals which kept them in it and tied going into the 3rd.
FearTheReaper Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 All in all the Flyers looked much more like a cohesive unit all the way around and didn't have any glaring breakdowns like we did. Sabres are close, but they still have work to do and that much is obvious. The teams that are ahead of us or considered to be "better" are simply more consistent and the errors aren't as huge. Agreed. Consistency is the biggest killer for the Sabs. We've seen it all season. From the early start,to the failure to maintain the streak. All the way up to last fridays almost disaster against the sharks. Lets just hope it doesnt take another late season let down for them to find that consistency. I dont think the Flyers are much of a deadly team,but like you say,our glaring errors handed them the win.
carpandean Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I dont think the Flyers are much of a deadly team,but like you say,our glaring errors handed them the win. They are, far and away, the most deadline team shorthanded. Tonight's SH goal was their 15th of the season (second against us.) You could add the two EN goals since they were down a skater (6-on-5) and, even if there were a goalie, Richards would have had a breakaway on the first one. Not making excuses; just pointing out on area where they are deadly.
Lethbridge Broncos Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 look, it makes no sense why lindy dressed peters and played ellis so little. with kaleta, he can PK and ellis has a nice linemate who seems to make him look better with his bizarre orangatang stick over his head skating style. the flyers are a sounds club and they have a little more moxie than the rag tag sabres. i though paille played a hell of a game and was engaged from the start. and hecht has a bur under his saddle now. but all in all, it is the same story, they need 2 vets up front. in close games they need some leaders. they guys they have are not there yet. bill guerin -- calling BILL GUERIN!!
deluca67 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I just don't think .500 hockey down the stretch is going to get it done. The Rangers and Habs probably will make moves to halt their free falls. Since they started 2009 4-0 the Sabres have been win 1 lose 1 win 2 lose 2 over the last 18 games. At some point the Sabres need to put together a stretch were they make a push for a playoff spot instead of hoping one falls to them.
deluca67 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Where did you get a picture of Eric Mould's kids?
BuffalOhio Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Flyers second goal was all on Hecht. He had the puck 5 feet from the blue line and what does he do? He tries to skate it out and the end of an already long shift. What happens? An eternity in the zone and a Coburn goal. Nice going Joker. I'm officially tired of Hecht now. Flyers shorty was all on the referee. How did they not call Powe for chopping Roy's legs out from under him on that. I watched it several times and it was so obvious. Connolly didn't do a good job taking Richards all the way to the net, either. Goddammit!
carpandean Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Flyers shorty was all on the referee. How did they not call Powe for chopping Roy's legs out from under him on that. I watched it several times and it was so obvious. Wow, I didn't even see that. I just thought he got bumped and fell, but it definitely looks like a trip on the replay.
billsrcursed Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 I've defended Ruff all season when people would question if he'd been here too long, shuffling lines, etc. If Kaleta wasn't out due to something serious like a Severed Soul, Lucy will have some "'splainin" to do...... I can name 5-6 guys right off the bat who should have been sitting instead of him, namely the 3 shifter who played for him. I don't get this one, and we may not have won the game with him in, but dammit, it just doesn't make sense. Why play Hecht?? Why play the General?? And please, if any of you locals see Lydman at a bar or a Natural Foods Store or wherever the F%#@ he hangs out, please for all of us, kick him in his D%#@ and remind him he's a man!!!! I'm done now, and sorry if I offended anyone. WE won't be making the playoffs if these things continue, and the fans shouldn't be the only ones picking up on these things. We aren't paid to do so......
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