Rules Change

[wjag]

I've long been an advocate of reducing OT penalties from 2m to 1m. I know there is not a lot of sentiment out there for that.

 

In last night's game against SJ, SJ took a penalty with 22 seconds left in OT. The penalty did not carryover into the SO. That's crap.

 

First, the controversial one. I'd like to see a full enforcement of a penalty in OT. If you take a penalty with 22 seconds left, then the OT extends until a goal is scored (short-handed or PPG) or the penalty time has expired.

 

Second, if you don't like the first one, at least make the penalized person unavailable for duty in the SO. If it's the goalie that gets a penalty (delay of game, unsportsmanlike conduct, etc), then the backup handles the SO.

 

What do you think?

[Bmwolf21]

I am intrigued by Harry and RJ's suggestion that a player who is in the box at the end of OT should not be eligible to take part in the SO - or at least not be in the top 3/top 5 shooters or something like that. I don't know how you handle a penalty by a goalie - you don't penalize a team by banning the guy in the box, because the guys serving penalties aren't usually involved in the SO anyway.

[carpandean]

I am intrigued by Harry and RJ's suggestion that a player who is in the box at the end of OT should not be eligible to take part in the SO

I thought it was funny (sad) that after RJ asked if the guy would be eligible, a little later, Harry stated he wouldn't be like it was a fact. Then, Rob Ray said the ref (maybe linesman) told him he would be eligible. If you don't know for sure, Harry, don't make s**t up! :wallbash:

 

 

As for your suggestion, if they do make the switch to one minute penalties, I wouldn't mind extending OT until the penalty is up (by time or goal scored.) Something about extending an OT by close to two minutes (for a late penalty under the current system) seems like a little much.

[SabresFan526]

I have a separate rule change aside from the ones mentioned above. I'd like for the referees to use replay on marginal calls. Since we have a replay official goals, why don't we buzz down to the referee when he calls a penalty that clearly should not have been called. For example, when Devon Setoguchi high sticks Joe Thornton, Craig Rivet is not put in the box for something he did not do. I don't think you can use replay on calls that are not made, but you should be able to use replay on calls that are made that are incorrect. This is not even a matter of interpretation, flat out, Craig Rivet's stick does not even touch Thornton. This is objective fact and caused a PP goal for San Jose. I don't like it.

[wjag]

I have a separate rule change aside from the ones mentioned above. I'd like for the referees to use replay on marginal calls. Since we have a replay official goals, why don't we buzz down to the referee when he calls a penalty that clearly should not have been called. For example, when Devon Setoguchi high sticks Joe Thornton, Craig Rivet is not put in the box for something he did not do. I don't think you can use replay on calls that are not made, but you should be able to use replay on calls that are made that are incorrect. This is not even a matter of interpretation, flat out, Craig Rivet's stick does not even touch Thornton. This is objective fact and caused a PP goal for San Jose. I don't like it.

You could also use it to see if a delay of game or too many men situation occurred (assuming a camera caught it).. Not for Cross checks, fights, trips (pretty subjective), dives (pretty subjective) and hooks (pretty subjective even though this one shouldn't be)

[carpandean]

I have a separate rule change aside from the ones mentioned above. I'd like for the referees to use replay on marginal calls. Since we have a replay official goals, why don't we buzz down to the referee when he calls a penalty that clearly should not have been called. For example, when Devon Setoguchi high sticks Joe Thornton, Craig Rivet is not put in the box for something he did not do. I don't think you can use replay on calls that are not made, but you should be able to use replay on calls that are made that are incorrect. This is not even a matter of interpretation, flat out, Craig Rivet's stick does not even touch Thornton. This is objective fact and caused a PP goal for San Jose. I don't like it.

There would have to be a set group of rules that you could review. High sticking (to ensure you got the right person's stick), delay of game (to see if the puck was tipped or not before going over the boards), etc., would be OK, but you couldn't review penalties like hooking, holding or tripping.

 

Edit: wjag is too quick for me.

[SabresFan526]

You could also use it to see if a delay of game or too many men situation occurred (assuming a camera caught it).. Not for Cross checks, fights, trips (pretty subjective), dives (pretty subjective) and hooks (pretty subjective even though this one shouldn't be)

 

 

There would have to be a set group of rules that you could review. High sticking (to ensure you got the right person's stick), delay of game (to see if the puck was tipped or not before going over the boards), etc., would be OK, but you couldn't review penalties like hooking, holding or tripping.

 

Edit: wjag is too quick for me.

Yeah yeah, I agree there. I wouldn't want to review hooking, holding, tripping, interference, etc. Just calls like high sticking and delay of game. Although, for hooking penalties, I would not mind if there was a review to see if the other player was also holding the stick of the offending hooking player. That bothers me to no end when a guy is called for hooking when the "victim" of the hook is clearly holding the stick. I think both calls should be made just like a tripping and diving. That's my take, at least. Either way, I was not happy about Rivet getting called for a high stick that was not even with his stick. That really bothers me and a clear instance where replay could be used.

[shrader]

I wouldn't mind seeing an extension of the "no line changes after icing" rule. Do the same for any type of violation, offsides, hand passes, high sticks... everything. The one place where it could get really interesting would be when a defenseman takes a penalty. The team would then be forced to take a draw deep in their zone with 3 forwards and one d-man.

[carpandean]

On a related note to Shrader's, I still would rather see the over-the-glass delay-of-game penalty changed to a faceoff in your own zone with no line change or TV timeouts. I see throwing the puck over the boards when trapped deep in your own end as being the same as throwing it down the ice. Plus, I don't like accidents causing a PP as much as they seem to.