LabattBlue Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Am I the only one that feels that octo-mom is hoping that she cashes in by becoming the next reality show star by having 14 kids(see "Jon & Kate + 8" and "17 kids and counting")? Either that or she is completely off her rocker? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090209/ap_on_he_me/octuplets
nucci Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Am I the only one that feels that octo-mom is hoping that she cashes in by becoming the next reality show star by having 14 kids(see "Jon & Kate + 8" and "17 kids and counting")? Either that or she is completely off her rocker? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090209/ap_on_he_me/octuplets I think it's a bit of both!
nobody Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 I heard on NPR or somewhere that she made the comment that she didn't want her new kid to be an only child as one of the reasons she wanted multiple kids this time. :rolleyes:
Bmwolf21 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 I think she's off her rocker, evidenced by her mother's comments and her own weird replies to the interview with Ann Curry. Plus she probably figured that all the big companies would flock to help her out if she had more multiples. Crazy like a fox, although I read something that indicated no one has really jumped up to offer her help in the form of baby supplies, etc (EDIT - here's the story: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...fzBIQD964FOAO0) but she is being wooed for her story rights for a book deal. It's complete bullschitt for anyone to reward this nutjob for bringing eight more kids into the world that she cannot care for.
tulax Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Dude, she hired a publicist. Need I say more? She's either trying to get a reality TV show or field her own pee wee hockey team. I feel terrible for the kids. How about the Grandmother blaming this on her husband spoiling her daughter as a child? Who is she, Veruca Salt?
blugold43 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 i likwe how she freaked up her lips in order to look like anjelina jolie. all she needs now is her money to take care of her little rat pack.
blugold43 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Dude, she hired a publicist. Need I say more? She's either trying to get a reality TV show or field her own pee wee hockey team. I feel terrible for the kids. How about the Grandmother blaming this on her husband spoiling her daughter as a child? Who is she, Veruca Salt? she's only one kid away from her own rugby team. i suppose if she jumps in and plays scrum half...
FogBat Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 I think she's off her rocker, evidenced by her mother's comments and her own weird replies to the interview with Ann Curry. Plus she probably figured that all the big companies would flock to help her out if she had more multiples. Crazy like a fox, although I read something that indicated no one has really jumped up to offer her help in the form of baby supplies, etc (EDIT - here's the story: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...fzBIQD964FOAO0) but she is being wooed for her story rights for a book deal. It's complete bullschitt for anyone to reward this nutjob for bringing eight more kids into the world that she cannot care for. While I would have toned down some of my language on this one, I couldn't agree with you more and I don't think I could have said it better myself. The fact that she relied on IVF to do what she did is infuriating to say the least. :angry: At least the Dionne Quintuplets had legitimacy (in spite of the way the Ontario premier and government exploited them back during the Great Depression).
FogBat Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Dude, she hired a publicist. Need I say more? She's either trying to get a reality TV show or field her own pee wee hockey team. I feel terrible for the kids. How about the Grandmother blaming this on her husband spoiling her daughter as a child? Who is she, Veruca Salt? As ironic and :sick: as the whole situation is, it could also be :lol: at the same time - given the reference to Veruca Salt. :thumbsup:
wonderbread Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 This whole thing is disgusting, to have 8 children when you have 6 already is not fair to a her children. How much attention do you think each one of those children will recieve from their mother? Also she is a debeat welfare mom. 14 kids!!! Mine alone cost almost a G a month. She will be having the state pay for all her kids when the "magic" wears off.
Ohiofan Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Why is nothing coming out about the doctor that implanted this woman? Knowing that she was single with no job and six other children should have given this physician some pause. What the heck were these people thinking? What kind of life are these children in for? Raising children is the single most important thing a person can do and to do it with such little regard for these little lives just blows my mind.
Bmwolf21 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Why is nothing coming out about the doctor that implanted this woman? Knowing that she was single with no job and six other children should have given this physician some pause. What the heck were these people thinking? What kind of life are these children in for? Raising children is the single most important thing a person can do and to do it with such little regard for these little lives just blows my mind. The doctor is being investigated by the California Medical Board. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29088199/ The Medical Board of California investigating the doctor - whom it did not name - to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care," board spokeswoman Candis Cohen said Friday. She did not elaborate. Suleman, 33, of Whittier, already had six children when she gave birth Jan. 26 to octuplets. The births to an unemployed, divorced single mother prompted angry questions about how she plans to provide for her children. But the backlash seems to have extended as well to Suleman's doctor. In a portion of an NBC interview, broadcast Friday, Suleman said she had six embryos implanted for each of her in vitro pregnancies, using the same sperm donor and fertility specialist. In the case of the octuplets, the procedure resulted in six boys and two girls, including two sets of twins. "The revelation about one center treating her makes the treatment even harder to understand," said Arthur Caplan, bioethics chairman at the University of Pennsylvania. "They went ahead when she had six kids, knowing that she was a single mom ... and put embryos into her anyway." In the United States, there is no law dictating the number of embryos that can be placed in a mother's womb. Multiple embryos can be implanted to improve the odds that one will take. However, there are national guidelines which put the norm at two to three embryos for a woman of Suleman's age, in order to lessen the health risks to the mother and the chances of multiple births.
Bmwolf21 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 While I would have toned down some of my language on this one, I couldn't agree with you more and I don't think I could have said it better myself. The fact that she relied on IVF to do what she did is infuriating to say the least. :angry: At least the Dionne Quintuplets had legitimacy (in spite of the way the Ontario premier and government exploited them back during the Great Depression). Maybe the language was a little harsher than it needed to be, but this one gets under my skin. The doctors didn't know this woman had serious issues? They didn't know she already had 6 at home and was living with her parents? And she's willing to gamble with her life, the lives of her unborn babies, and mess with the development of these children because she was a spoiled brat only child?
Bmwolf21 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Now it comes out that - SURPRISE! - she lied to Ann Curry in her interview: Nadya Suleman, the mother of the octuplets born last month, gets $490 a month in food stamps, the Los Angeles Times reported Monday evening. Three of her first children also get federal supplemental security income because they are disabled, the Times reported. Suleman's publicist, Michael Furtney, confirmed the information. During an interview with Ann Curry on the TODAY show, Suleman denied being on welfare. (Msnbc.com is a joint venture of NBC Universal and Microsoft.) Suleman told NBC News correspondent Ann Curry in an interview that she was not receiving welfare. Furtney said Suleman didn't consider the food stamps and SSI to be welfare. "In Nadya's view, the money that she gets from the food stamp program ... and the resources disabilities payments she gets for her three children are not welfare," he said. "They are part of programs designed to help people with need, and she does not see that as welfare." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29110391/ So to recap - no job, lives with her parents, already has six kids, already receiving assistance, no father in the picture. Brilliant choice to have 8 more kids.
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 I think she's off her rocker, evidenced by her mother's comments and her own weird replies to the interview with Ann Curry. Plus she probably figured that all the big companies would flock to help her out if she had more multiples. Crazy like a fox, although I read something that indicated no one has really jumped up to offer her help in the form of baby supplies, etc (EDIT - here's the story: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...fzBIQD964FOAO0) but she is being wooed for her story rights for a book deal. It's complete bullschitt for anyone to reward this nutjob for bringing eight more kids into the world that she cannot care for. True... But they have to reward her, why have the children suffer? Back in the old days... Large families = social security. Surely one of the children would "make it big" and take care of the folks... No? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
billsrcursed Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Our country needs to do something about people having babies. I have no idea what, but I'm F'n sick and tired of having to hear about children being neglected, mistreated, killed, raped, etc. What in the hell is wrong with people?? Sorry, but these poor kids........ I don't know, whatever. It's depressing, and I feel sorry for the poor kids, and the fact that this scumbag of a woman is even allowed to show her face on TV. She should be jailed for stupidity, and so should everyone else who even thought about participating in this. Regulating child birth is NOT such a bad idea. You need to pass a driving test to get a license, why should people be allowed to have kids at will.... just ranting, this makes me sick to my gut. People in general just suck......
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Our country needs to do something about people having babies. I have no idea what, but I'm F'n sick and tired of having to hear about children being neglected, mistreated, killed, raped, etc. What in the hell is wrong with people?? Sorry, but these poor kids........ I don't know, whatever. It's depressing, and I feel sorry for the poor kids, and the fact that this scumbag of a woman is even allowed to show her face on TV. She should be jailed for stupidity, and so should everyone else who even thought about participating in this. Regulating child birth is NOT such a bad idea. You need to pass a driving test to get a license, why should people be allowed to have kids at will.... just ranting, this makes me sick to my gut. People in general just suck...... And go against what this country was built on and values? "Family" "Family values" Good luck trying. Maybe I missed it, but I am surprised the Christian Right hasn't chimed in on it. <_< <_<
FogBat Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Maybe the language was a little harsher than it needed to be, but this one gets under my skin. The doctors didn't know this woman had serious issues? They didn't know she already had 6 at home and was living with her parents? And she's willing to gamble with her life, the lives of her unborn babies, and mess with the development of these children because she was a spoiled brat only child? You certainly won't get an argument from me on this one. It's one thing if a couple can naturally reproduce that many children like the Duggars out in Arkansas. That, to me, is perfectly acceptable. So is this, um, shall we say, anomaly - given that IVF was probably not available in that time period. This gal, OTOH, is certainly generating her fair share of controversy - and rightfully so. <_<
FogBat Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 And go against what this country was built on and values? "Family" "Family values" Good luck trying. Maybe I missed it, but I am surprised the Christian Right hasn't chimed in on it. <_< <_< Try here. I listen to Dr. Mohler as much as I can. He is a very smart and erudite man.
inkman Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Our country needs to do something about people having babies. I think she should be court ordered into prostitution. She doesn't seem to have any issues with traffic in her vajay-jay.
2ForTripping Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Just the other day I saw a bumper sticker that fits in with this thread. The sticker read, "If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em"
FogBat Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Just the other day I saw a bumper sticker that fits in with this thread. The sticker read, "If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em" What's really sad these days is that many children are considered to be more of an impediment to parents than they are a blessing.
Bmwolf21 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 It just keeps getting better: The California woman who gave birth to octuplets has no income and intends to use student loans to care for them and her other six children at home, all under the age of 8. ?Do you have any income at all?? TODAY?s Ann Curry asked Nadya Suleman during her exclusive interview with the 33-year-old mother of 14 children. ?At the moment, no,? Suleman replied, adding that she intended to use student loans ?temporarily? to pay for her family?s care. ?Right now, you don?t have an income to provide for your children?? Curry repeated. ?Probably just with the student loans,? Suleman said. ?I am providing for my children. I am. And that will probably run out by the time I go back to school. So I have my own way. It?s an alternative way, but it works.? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29117041/
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Just the other day I saw a bumper sticker that fits in with this thread. The sticker read, "If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em" Why don't we just go back to 1729 Ireland: A Modest Proposal My point is, the poor or not so well off will ALWAYS have children, even if it makes illogical sense. Now I can't agree to curtailing them from naturally conceiving, that part that this was in vitro fertilization is hard to understand... Where the heck did she get the money for that? Am I missing something? :wallbash: :wallbash:
Bmwolf21 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Why don't we just go back to 1729 Ireland: A Modest Proposal My point is, the poor or not so well off will ALWAYS have children, even if it makes illogical sense. Now I can't agree to curtailing them from naturally conceiving, that part that this was in vitro fertilization is hard to understand... Where the heck did she get the money for that? Am I missing something? :wallbash: :wallbash: From 1997 to 2006, Suleman was employed by a state mental hospital. She was disabled in a riot in 1999 and received disability payments totaling about $165,000 until those payments stopped during her pregnancy. Suleman said she intends to go back to college in the fall to get a degree in counseling. She told Curry that while she was still able to work, she saved as much money as she could as she lived with her mother, Angela. ?I was able to work double shifts ? constantly working double shifts. I was hoarding my money ? nonstop working. I really didn?t have much of a social life,? Suleman said. ?My friends would go, ?Are you saving for a house, a car?? ? ?No, I?m saving for babies.? ? After trying for seven years to get pregnant, Suleman turned to in vitro fertilization, paying for ?several? of the procedures she has undergone with the money she saved. Curry asked how much money she spent on in vitro procedures. ?I don?t know. I would say close to 100,? Suleman replied. ?A hundred thousand dollars?? Curry asked. ?Probably,? Suleman said. ?Yeah, definitely.? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29117041/
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