Kristian Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Just got done watching the game again on Rangers in 60. The officiating was awesome. There were plenty of penalties that could have been called on both teams but they didn't. It didn't effect the outcome of the game at all and it really kept the flow going nicely. I think Vanek's pass may have actually gone through Drury's legs. Kotalik has just an unbelievable wrist shot. In the shoot-out, Miller definitely poked the puck away from Drury with his stick. Given time and space - Like in the shootout - Kotalik is probably one of the best shooters I ever saw. No flash, no dash, he just hits the part of the net he wants to hit, period. As frustrating as he can be to to watch in-game, I always sit back calm and collected when I see him skate in on the goalie in the SO.
wjag Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Given time and space - Like in the shootout - Kotalik is probably one of the best shooters I ever saw. No flash, no dash, he just hits the part of the net he wants to hit, period. As frustrating as he can be to to watch in-game, I always sit back calm and collected when I see him skate in on the goalie in the SO. He is as close to money as there is... Reminds me of Danny B, not in style, but in success rate.. Danny was always getting us that first goal...
Stoner Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 In the shoot-out, Miller definitely poked the puck away from Drury with his stick. Drury still got the shot off, so I don't know about poking it "away." Drury shot the puck off the end boards. People are tending to see what they want to see. Someone in this thread said Miller "stoned" Drury. Just read Bucky's column -- he wrote, "Miller was writing his own happy ending after staring down Drury and waiting, sliding, reading and calmly kicking away a wrist shot that handed the Sabres a 2-1 shootout victory." Again, I'll give full marks to Buck for his massive imagination. He weaves a great tale. Towit: "The story line called for Drury returning to Buffalo and reminding the Sabres that they should have kept him..." Oh jeez. Happy ending? I'm pretty sure that's Bucky "decompressing" after one more chance to see Drury in the lockerroom.
bob_sauve28 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 When Rivet has played, it has mostly been with Lydman and together they have been a very effective pairing. One bad giveaway by each tonight, but otherwise, a pretty good game by them. I'm glad that Roy scored, because he and Timmy sort of leaned out of the path of the first goal just late enough to screen Miller, but not get the block. Roy talked about that in his post game interview. He said he had the shot lined up to block but the Ranger player bumped him out of the way.
LabattBlue Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Was it just me or was Roy gesturing towards the crowd after he scored his goal as in "there you go, I gave you somethign to cheer about"? Combined with this comment from today Buff News... "That was a big goal for us," Roy said. "We didn't have a shot for 10 minutes, and the crowd obviously felt we weren't working hard or getting pucks to the net. We made a great play, and after that we got pucks to the net and guys started moving their feet in the offensive zone." http://www.buffalonews.com/489/story/544925.html Maybe I am reading more into this, but the crowd was OBVIOUSLY correct to jeer the team. They got out played in the first period and got dominated in the 2nd up until Roy scored. Is anyone ever accountable when their play sucks?
ReneRobert Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Was it just me or was Roy gesturing towards the crowd after he scored his goal as in "there you go, I gave you somethign to cheer about"? Combined with this comment from today Buff News..."That was a big goal for us," Roy said. "We didn't have a shot for 10 minutes, and the crowd obviously felt we weren't working hard or getting pucks to the net. We made a great play, and after that we got pucks to the net and guys started moving their feet in the offensive zone." http://www.buffalonews.com/489/story/544925.html Maybe I am reading more into this, but the crowd was OBVIOUSLY correct to jeer the team. They got out played in the first period and got dominated in the 2nd up until Roy scored. Is anyone ever accountable when their play sucks? Sure the crowd was correct to jeer... and Roy was correct to say "There you go" when he score. No harm on any side.
nfreeman Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 A quick scan of the Full Play-By-Play stat pages on NHL.com showed that Rivet played with the following (primarily): Rangers (tonight) - Lydman Ottawa (1/7/09) - Tallinder, but Lydman was out with the Flu Out with shoulder (missed 11 games) Tampa (12/10/08) - Spacek Penguins(12/8/08) - Spacek Tampa (12/6/08) - Lydman, but switched to with Spacek at the end of the game. Hurt shoulder (missed 2 games) Montreal (11/29/08) - Lydman Penguins (11/28/08) - Lydman Boston (11/26/08) - Lydman Islanders (11/22/08) - Lydman Flyers (11/21/08) - Lydman Boston (11/19/08) - Lydman Pittsburgh (11/15/08) - Lydman Columbus (11/14/08) - Tallinder St. Louis (11/12/08) - Tallinder Boston (11/8/08) - Tallinder Atlanta (11/7/08) - Tallinder Devils (11/3/08) - Tallinder Knee Surgery (missed 5 games) Boston (10/21/08) - Tallinder Atlanta (10/18/08) - Tallinder Vancouver (10/17/08) - Tallinder Rangers (10/15/08) - Tallinder Islanders (10/13/08) - Tallinder Montreal (10/10/08) - Tallinder So, basically, he played with Tallinder until Hank started playing badly. He, then, was switched to with Lydman until he hurt his shoulder, when he move to with Spacek for a couple of games before going out of the lineup completely. The only game that I could find with Tallinder since then was a game when Lydman was out sick. The standard pairings when all defensemen are healthy have become: Lydman-Rivet Spacek-Sekera Tallinder-Numminen (Note: in at least one of those games, Paetsch played with Numminen instead of Tallinder.) So, we were both somewhat correct. How'd I do? :thumbsup: Edit: Finished my look back after finding that he played with Tallinder early. Nicely done! Thanks.
carpandean Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Roy talked about that in his post game interview. He said he had the shot lined up to block but the Ranger player bumped him out of the way. Yeah, I caught that and thought "oh, that explains it." However, after watching it again (they showed the clip as he was talking), he gets pushed, but looks to still be in position to block the shot. He, then, turns his body a little to keep from getting hit. The replay on NHL.com doesn't show that angle, so I'll watch it again when MSG replays the game at noon. I'm as much of a fan of Roy as anyone, but in this case, I think that he moved. We'll see. I believe Connolly also moved out of the way, but given his history, that may have been a good idea.
SwampD Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Drury still got the shot off, so I don't know about poking it "away." Drury shot the puck off the end boards. People are tending to see what they want to see. Someone in this thread said Miller "stoned" Drury. Just read Bucky's column -- he wrote, "Miller was writing his own happy ending after staring down Drury and waiting, sliding, reading and calmly kicking away a wrist shot that handed the Sabres a 2-1 shootout victory." Again, I'll give full marks to Buck for his massive imagination. He weaves a great tale. Towit: "The story line called for Drury returning to Buffalo and reminding the Sabres that they should have kept him..." Oh jeez. Happy ending? I'm pretty sure that's Bucky "decompressing" after one more chance to see Drury in the lockerroom. Hmmm. Oh, the irony. Whether the puck hit Miller before or after Drury shot doesn't matter anyway. The reason the puck went into the boards was Miller.
cilevel Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Sure the crowd was correct to jeer... and Roy was correct to say "There you go" when he score. No harm on any side. Agreed. I interpret all of it to mean that Roy understood what the crowd was upset about, and at least that line did what they could to respond. They ended up getting a goal by driving hard to the net, getting a shot on net, and pounding in a rebound. The crowd then got into the game and the team did also. That's all good in my book.
Stoner Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Hmmm. Oh, the irony. Whether the puck hit Miller before or after Drury shot doesn't matter anyway. The reason the puck went into the boards was Miller. Or Drury just missed.
Stoner Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Was it just me or was Roy gesturing towards the crowd after he scored his goal as in "there you go, I gave you somethign to cheer about"? Great observation. I took it as, "Get up and cheer." Not being a dick about it, just trying to get the fans into it. Watching on TV it almost seemed like a lot of fans were still pissed even after they scored. I know I was. I didn't really react to the goal. I haven't been able to put my finger on what makes Sabre fans tick. Miller made one of his huge saves in the third and they showed the crowd. Obviously the director was looking for a "money shot" of the crowd getting to its feet. A passionate "hockey town" and all. A very wide shot of hundreds of fans showed nothing. Zero zip zilch. Thinking back on the Hasek years, was there even one "Has-ek, Has-ek" chant? Tough crowd, I tell ya. Tough crowd.
SwampD Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Or Drury just missed. Like you said People are tending to see what they want to see. But would you look at that. That's Millers stick is hitting the puck to the side and not drury's. Wow, I'm bored.
Corp000085 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Posted January 10, 2009 So, any word on michal roszival's face?
SabresFan526 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Or Drury just missed. Nah, look at the replay. Naslund completely missed. Miller could have been beaten by Naslund, but Naslund just whiffed and his shot didn't even get on net. Miller got the pad save on Drury. Drury also lost the puck, but it's not a case of where there was no one in net he would have missed a la Naslund's whiff. In Naslund's case, even if there was no goalie in net, Naslund still would have missed, but that situation doesn't happen unless Miller forces Naslund to make the play to his backhand side where he is clearly weaker. In Drury's case, Miller tried to make a poke check which he did not make, but it kind of forced Drury to hesitate causing him to lose the puck and when he did regain control, Miller made the pad save. Take a look again. Regardless, even you can't deny that Miller stole this game for the Sabres given how poorly how the Sabres played in the first 30 minutes.
Buffalo Wings Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 They just interviewed Drury on MSG's New York coverage and he said that was the best game the Rangers had played all year, but Miller just beat them. Interesting. Wow....maybe Drury is trying to give a lot of credit to Miller, but I don't think the Rangers were that exemplary. I thought it was more Buffalo being bad than anything else.
Buffalo Wings Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Roy talked about that in his post game interview. He said he had the shot lined up to block but the Ranger player bumped him out of the way. More like a gentle crosscheck, if you ask me. It looked like Roy was taking position in front of Miller, but Colton Orr gave him a shove to the back so he could get in and screen Miller. I don't think it was penalty-worthy or anything, just saying that Roy looked out of his element there. Another thing about that goal...if Miller doesn't go down, Mara's shot hits him in the shoulder or the mask. He was that close to a shutout.
Stoner Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 That's Millers stick is hitting the puck to the side and not drury's. Not clear. I see clouds.
Stoner Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Nah, look at the replay. Naslund completely missed. Miller could have been beaten by Naslund, but Naslund just whiffed and his shot didn't even get on net. Miller got the pad save on Drury. Drury also lost the puck, but it's not a case of where there was no one in net he would have missed a la Naslund's whiff. In Naslund's case, even if there was no goalie in net, Naslund still would have missed, but that situation doesn't happen unless Miller forces Naslund to make the play to his backhand side where he is clearly weaker. In Drury's case, Miller tried to make a poke check which he did not make, but it kind of forced Drury to hesitate causing him to lose the puck and when he did regain control, Miller made the pad save. Take a look again. Regardless, even you can't deny that Miller stole this game for the Sabres given how poorly how the Sabres played in the first 30 minutes. I gave Miller his props. I just can't tell exactly what happened on Drury's try. According to your version, Drury's shot that ended up off the back boards wouldn't have counted had it gone in. Can't score on a rebound.
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