SDS Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 all the evidence points to one conclusion. :thumbdown:
carpandean Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 They sure have hung him out to dry in his last two starts. Of course, they hung Miller out to dry in Tampa, as well as in parts of the last few games. The team has gotten sloppy. Poor Patty Lalime just happened to get two of their worst games.
Two or less Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 No. But this team has a very bad habit of playing with no desire and lazy. I just think they have to get rid of some dead weight. I know Regier isn't known to do this, but i really think we will see a deal soon. Maybe before Christmas. They can't let this go on. They look world class some times and some times they look just pathetic.
Kristian Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 No. But this team has a very bad habit of playing with no desire and lazy. I just think they have to get rid of some dead weight. I know Regier isn't known to do this, but i really think we will see a deal soon. Maybe before Christmas. They can't let this go on. They look world class some times and some times they look just pathetic. There are some guys, if not many guys, on this team who never should've played in the NHL. They have the skills, but they lack the mindset and what's worse - They don't seem to learn from this, either. How many times have we blasted this team for coming out lazy and flat in past years? Too many. Problem is, the front office hasn't learned from this either - They keep making the same mistakes year after year, thinking their group of young guns are magically all going to develop into grizzled vets through the off-season, but that's just not how this game works. They can't let this go on? Why not, they always let it go on? Why change now? We have guys, who with the right supporting cast of grit and muscle, could be true greats one day, but at this point they're just above average soft players on a soft, injury-prone team, playing soft hockey.
deluca67 Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 all the evidence points to one conclusion. :thumbdown: I know as a goalie I do. There is no way Lindy trusts him for 20-25 starts. I would be pissed if I were to spend good money to go see the Buffalo Sabres play and Lalime is starting. He's a cheap veteran goalie that you play against lessor teams in hope of stealing points. Any points he can steal you are bonus.
deluca67 Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 There are some guys, if not many guys, on this team who never should've played in the NHL. They have the skills, but they lack the mindset and what's worse - They don't seem to learn from this, either. How many times have we blasted this team for coming out lazy and flat in past years? Too many. Problem is, the front office hasn't learned from this either - They keep making the same mistakes year after year, thinking their group of young guns are magically all going to develop into grizzled vets through the off-season, but that's just not how this game works. They can't let this go on? Why not, they always let it go on? Why change now? We have guys, who with the right supporting cast of grit and muscle, could be true greats one day, but at this point they're just above average soft players on a soft, injury-prone team, playing soft hockey. Great post! The worst thing about it is that the Sabres will bench the same players over and over. The Sabres should send a real message to the players and send Max to Portland.
bottlecap Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 We are still 9-4 guys. Geez. However, it may be that the guys have finally tuned Lindy out for good.
DR HOLLIDAY Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 We are still 9-4 guys. Geez. However, it may be that the guys have finally tuned Lindy out for good. No.
nfreeman Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 We are still 9-4 guys. Geez. However, it may be that the guys have finally tuned Lindy out for good. I think we are 9-7. A loss is a loss, regardless of whether it's in regulation, OT or a shootout. And they haven't tuned out Lindy. They just don't have any good leaders at forward.
R_Dudley Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 I think we are 9-7. A loss is a loss, regardless of whether it's in regulation, OT or a shootout. And they haven't tuned out Lindy. They just don't have any good leaders at forward. This is what I am thinking as well.
carpandean Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 I think we are 9-7. A loss is a loss, regardless of whether it's in regulation, OT or a shootout. And they haven't tuned out Lindy. They just don't have any good leaders at forward. Here's how I like to think about it: 6 regulation wins (3 in the first 4 games, 3 in the remaining 12; though, all 3 were in the last 6) 4 regulation losses (all in the last 8) 6 OT games The league may call a win a win and not call a loss a loss, but to me, that's faulty logic. OT and especially shootout games are basically ties with a relatively arbitrary mechanism for getting some mysterious "bonus point".
R_Dudley Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 I know as a goalie I do. There is no way Lindy trusts him for 20-25 starts. I would be pissed if I were to spend good money to go see the Buffalo Sabres play and Lalime is starting. He's a cheap veteran goalie that you play against lessor teams in hope of stealing points. Any points he can steal you are bonus. I think this is somehow in the back of the players heads as well and they just come out and think putting their sticks on the ice is enough... This is where nfreeman's comment about good leaders at forward really hits home... We are still 9-4 guys. Geez. However, it may be that the guys have finally tuned Lindy out for good. I'm not quite there yet with that thought however I have been thinking about this and the "we grew up together from the Rochester to Sabres thing" has one big downside, a bunch of real good drinking buddies very rarely make the most hard driving and performing teams. This team reminds me of some of the bar teams I've been on with allot my buddies and when things would click man we could roll however when they didn't, ok, no problem, well theirs always tomorrow. I can't get too hard at so and so, me and the wife are going over there for dinner tomorrow with him and the misses. The best teams I played on we were all freinds but I only had one or 2 real buddies on. The team, the game and the goal is what united us not having been in each other's wedding party. :rolleyes:
Stoner Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Relax, SDS. It's only a game. Yeah, I've been saving that one.
SDS Posted November 15, 2008 Author Report Posted November 15, 2008 Relax, SDS. It's only a game. Yeah, I've been saving that one. I'm relaxed. It's not as though there was anything to get excited over in that stinker. I just found it interesting that Ryan Miller plays 15 minutes and they manage one or two pedestrian shots on goal, while Lalime has to face picture perfect one-timers, tips, and backdoor combination plays. :thumbdown:
Stoner Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 I'm relaxed. It's not as though there was anything to get excited over in that stinker. I just found it interesting that Ryan Miller plays 15 minutes and they manage one or two pedestrian shots on goal, while Lalime has to face picture perfect one-timers, tips, and backdoor combination plays. :thumbdown: I can't tell if you're serious. Every indication is that Lalime is well-liked, but who knows? No one on the outside looking in ever knows all the intrigue that surrounds a professional sports team.
Claude Balls Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Maybe, but not as much as they hated T-blo.
SDS Posted November 15, 2008 Author Report Posted November 15, 2008 I can't tell if you're serious. Every indication is that Lalime is well-liked, but who knows? No one on the outside looking in ever knows all the intrigue that surrounds a professional sports team. I'm not serious, but what other explanation can you give for the complete Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde act they pulled last night with the 2 goalies?
rickshaw Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Lindy has to play Lalime more often than every 18 days. That's a joke. He should be playing every 5th or 6th game or for sure once every 10-12 days. Last week Ruff got all jacked about back to back shutouts. Then Atlanta came to town, a team Miller has stunk against many a time, and he played him again. I would have bet that Lalime was slated for that game, but Ruff changed it up because of the SO's. Then Miller plays and gives up some awful goals and they get an OT loss. Lalime is a solid keeper but he must play. I'm tired of the "coach losing confidence" comments, even if they're true. That is one of the faults I see in Ruff as a coach. It's a bad way to view things. He doesn't like how the backup plays, so he overplays Miller. Miller needs a break, backup is stale and plays useless, Miller overplays again. End of season, Miller is tanked and so is the team. Lalime needs to play set games no matter how well Miller is playing. That is the way it is. I saw it in Vancouver. Mika Noronen came to town and had a rough first game and barely played. Alex Auld wasn't used to playing so much and was gassed at the end of the year and sucked as the season wound down.
nfreeman Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 I'm relaxed. It's not as though there was anything to get excited over in that stinker. I just found it interesting that Ryan Miller plays 15 minutes and they manage one or two pedestrian shots on goal, while Lalime has to face picture perfect one-timers, tips, and backdoor combination plays. :thumbdown: I think teams definitely play better in front of better goalies. Not sure if it's confidence, fear of ticking off the star goalie, or something else, but I really believe it. Like him or not, Dominik had that effect on every team he was on (except maybe Detroit in his last year). This is probably more true on an immature, leadership-deficient team like you-know-who.
nfreeman Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Lindy has to play Lalime more often than every 18 days. That's a joke.He should be playing every 5th or 6th game or for sure once every 10-12 days. Last week Ruff got all jacked about back to back shutouts. Then Atlanta came to town, a team Miller has stunk against many a time, and he played him again. I would have bet that Lalime was slated for that game, but Ruff changed it up because of the SO's. Then Miller plays and gives up some awful goals and they get an OT loss. Lalime is a solid keeper but he must play. I'm tired of the "coach losing confidence" comments, even if they're true. That is one of the faults I see in Ruff as a coach. It's a bad way to view things. He doesn't like how the backup plays, so he overplays Miller. Miller needs a break, backup is stale and plays useless, Miller overplays again. End of season, Miller is tanked and so is the team. Lalime needs to play set games no matter how well Miller is playing. That is the way it is. Good post. This is one of my biggest concerns about the Sabres this season. Lalime absolutely should've played a game last weekend.
inkman Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Lindy has to play Lalime more often than every 18 days. That's a joke.He should be playing every 5th or 6th game or for sure once every 10-12 days. Agreed. Last week Ruff got all jacked about back to back shutouts. Then Atlanta came to town, a team Miller has stunk against many a time, and he played him again. I would have bet that Lalime was slated for that game, but Ruff changed it up because of the SO's. Then Miller plays and gives up some awful goals and they get an OT loss. Lindy really screwed the pooch here. Not only was he successful in building up the rust on Lalime but he also fatigued Miller in the process setting both of them back for weeks. It was the single worst goaltending move I've seen Lindy make in his time in Buffalo.
stenbaro Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 I want to see them screw it up more..Bring Enroth in for a shot now..Lets see the heads roll..
Kristian Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Lindy has to play Lalime more often than every 18 days. That's a joke.He should be playing every 5th or 6th game or for sure once every 10-12 days. Last week Ruff got all jacked about back to back shutouts. Then Atlanta came to town, a team Miller has stunk against many a time, and he played him again. I would have bet that Lalime was slated for that game, but Ruff changed it up because of the SO's. Then Miller plays and gives up some awful goals and they get an OT loss. Lalime is a solid keeper but he must play. I'm tired of the "coach losing confidence" comments, even if they're true. That is one of the faults I see in Ruff as a coach. It's a bad way to view things. He doesn't like how the backup plays, so he overplays Miller. Miller needs a break, backup is stale and plays useless, Miller overplays again. End of season, Miller is tanked and so is the team. Lalime needs to play set games no matter how well Miller is playing. That is the way it is. I saw it in Vancouver. Mika Noronen came to town and had a rough first game and barely played. Alex Auld wasn't used to playing so much and was gassed at the end of the year and sucked as the season wound down. QFT
Guest Sloth Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 I think Miller should play 3 games and take a rest. Keep the cycle going. They let Lalime go too long and he lost any type of groove he had. The first 3 goals last night should be laid on the 5 players in front of him.
cilevel Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Lindy has to play Lalime more often than every 18 days. That's a joke.He should be playing every 5th or 6th game or for sure once every 10-12 days. Last week Ruff got all jacked about back to back shutouts. Then Atlanta came to town, a team Miller has stunk against many a time, and he played him again. I would have bet that Lalime was slated for that game, but Ruff changed it up because of the SO's. Then Miller plays and gives up some awful goals and they get an OT loss. Lalime is a solid keeper but he must play. I'm tired of the "coach losing confidence" comments, even if they're true. That is one of the faults I see in Ruff as a coach. It's a bad way to view things. He doesn't like how the backup plays, so he overplays Miller. Miller needs a break, backup is stale and plays useless, Miller overplays again. End of season, Miller is tanked and so is the team. Lalime needs to play set games no matter how well Miller is playing. That is the way it is. I saw it in Vancouver. Mika Noronen came to town and had a rough first game and barely played. Alex Auld wasn't used to playing so much and was gassed at the end of the year and sucked as the season wound down. Totally agree, I said in another post somewhere that he has to play Lalime again soon. Lindy's boys need to learn how to play every night. Miller is no Brodeur so our backup has to play on a schedule similar to what you suggest. Ryan simply does not have the stamina to play like Brodeur can.
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