bob_sauve28 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 Seems to me the worst place to shoot on a goalie is high gloveside. Most goalies have decent gloves and its just like giving the puck away if you can't really crank it. Yet, it looks pretty when a goal is scored there. Hasek was so effective because he blocked the lower part of the net so well. Is that where most goals are scored?
deluca67 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 Seems to me the worst place to shoot on a goalie is high gloveside. Most goalies have decent gloves and its just like giving the puck away if you can't really crank it. Yet, it looks pretty when a goal is scored there. Hasek was so effective because he blocked the lower part of the net so well. Is that where most goals are scored? I think it's more of a matter of when not where. I see many goals that are scored when you can get the goalie to move side to side. Once the goalie is allowed to square up the advantage goes with goalie.
SDS Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 I posted a nice graphic of this once, but I think it is gone. http://www.texashockey.com/drills/shootingstatistics.htm gives the numbers, but no diagram.
bob_sauve28 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Posted October 27, 2008 I posted a nice graphic of this once, but I think it is gone. http://www.texashockey.com/drills/shootingstatistics.htm gives the numbers, but no diagram. Thanks!! That was great! Also supports my assumption that shooting low is the best bet
carpandean Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 I posted a nice graphic of this once, but I think it is gone. http://www.texashockey.com/drills/shootingstatistics.htm gives the numbers, but no diagram. I can't say for sure, but this could be a little misleading. Despite the fact that a much higher percent of goals are scored low, I wouldn't guarantee that the save percentage is lower there. It's much easier, especially when in tight, to make a low shot than to elevate it, so I would guess that low shots make up a much higher percent of total shots, too. If my instincts are correct, if you have the skill-level needed to take higher shots, especially closer in when butterfly goalies are down (i.e., not from the perimeter when they are still up on their skates), you will score more shooting high. Just a guess, though.
SDS Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 I can't say for sure, but this could be a little misleading. Despite the fact that a much higher percent of goals are scored low, I wouldn't guarantee that the save percentage is lower there. It's much easier, especially when in tight, to make a low shot than to elevate it, so I would guess that low shots make up a much higher percent of total shots, too. If my instincts are correct, if you have the skill-level needed to take higher shots, especially closer in when butterfly goalies are down (i.e., not from the perimeter when they are still up on their skates), you will score more shooting high. Just a guess, though. Here you go: http://hockeynumbers.blogspot.com/2007/04/goalie.html
That Aud Smell Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 I would guess that low shots make up a much higher percent of total shots, too. that has to be the case -- it's the reason that guys with ridiculous skills around the net (e.g., vanek) get the #'s they do based in part on an ability to roof the puck accurately in tight space and the blink of an eye. it's also the reason that hasek was so successful in taking away the bottom 1/2 of the net. i would assume that there's a higher ratio of goals for shots on net that are placed high (the 3 or 4 "holes").
carpandean Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 Here you go: http://hockeynumbers.blogspot.com/2007/04/goalie.html That seems to support my beliefs. It varies across goalies, but most faced fewer shots up high and had lower save % (at least as compared to non-5-hole low shots.) Edit: as one poster noted, the image is not flipped for left-handed goalies verses right-handed, so stick-side verses glove-side comparisons are difficult if you don't know which one a goalie is.
spndnchz Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 Seems to me the worst place to shoot on a goalie is high gloveside. Most goalies have decent gloves and its just like giving the puck away if you can't really crank it. Yet, it looks pretty when a goal is scored there. Hasek was so effective because he blocked the lower part of the net so well. Is that where most goals are scored? Most goals are scored in a net, surrounded by pipes. :rolleyes:
carpandean Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 Most goals are scored in a net, surrounded by pipes. :rolleyes: Yeah, and the best place to shoot is where the goalie isn't ... or, really, where the goalie isn't going to be. :thumbsup:
gregkash Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 Here you go: http://hockeynumbers.blogspot.com/2007/04/goalie.html Holy crap. Thank you.
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